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Saxon (777)  (OP)

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Which brings me to my next point:

You didn't even know my motive even though you acted as though you did.
 Quoting: J3443-ONE



So someone showing up to call me a hypocrite takes rocket science to uncover? Not for this guy, but I suppose I'm just "weird" like that.


This is not an attack.

It is not going to be an attack.


But since we're in a question asking mood, what makes you think I'm claiming to be an expert on anything?
 Quoting: J3443-ONE



Because "experts" always arrive on threads calling names FIRST, just like YOU did. And then of course, like a good little "expert", you then launch into your public attempt to deface me under the guises now of "helping" me.

Were you interested in any such thing we'd be having this discussion in PRIVATE, not in the middle of a discussion about a TOTALLY unrelated subject matter.


For that matter, what makes YOU think anyone wants YOUR opinion on ANYTHING?
 Quoting: J3443-ONE



So who's twisting your arm and forcing you to post and read in MY thread BTW?


I haven't made any judgments about your "personal makeup", as you so eloquently put it. You're judging both yourself, and my Self, very harshly.
 Quoting: J3443-ONE


Bullshit. Time to go read your grand entrance again to MY thread.


You show me your cards in every single hand you play and you don't even know it.
 Quoting: J3443-ONE


Put that horn of yours down before you ruin your lips dear. You're gonna hurt yourself.


I'm not ignoring anything, especially not the hurt in you that already exists. I want to expose it. I want you to heal.

So that you may more effectively heal others.
 Quoting: J3443-ONE



And what do YOU know of the hurt that exists in ME?

You know NOTHING of me worth mention.

Yes, "expose and humiliate", your REAL motive here.


But since you don't even know what I believe, and my intentions are honestly pure, maybe you should SLOOOOOOW DOOOOOOWN and read what I've written very slowly.

You know, without assuming I worship some god that isn't ONE.
 Quoting: J3443-ONE


Pure? cow

What a LAUGH. rolleyes

You're SO transparent it's ridiculous.
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Lucifer=12+21+3+9+6+5+18 = 74


7+4=11



11 is the number of the false magician, the one who attempts to bypass "God" (10) in the sephiroth and place themself at the top, above the creator.


9-11 sound familiar? 9 to 11 is the method of the false magician. They symbolically pass by "God", 10, as they attempt to set themselves above the ONE.



Of course, a person cannot succeed in such an endeavour - None is before or above the Great Spirit.


9 and 11 are numbers that my girlfriend "sees".

She was actually born on the 9th day of the Mayan calendar and has an "11" or, "2" destiny path in numerology.

Two girlfriends before her I had one whose mom's birthday is on 9/11.
 Quoting: J3443-ONE


Oh, into false magicians too I see. lol
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. - i
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ay.aye is point the real 'one' or its the shadow of an I
or were the I real and point its shadow , i ,.. :hm: whats in that commah ' ?

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And of course, the "great spirit" of which you speak is Lucifer again.

no. The Great Spirit i speak of is the ONE, our Creator, the "God" of Love, Love so powerful it birthed the cosmos.



No one can "ascend" over the head of Lucifer


Of course they can. He is a lower form which only has power if you lend it to him.
 Quoting: The Psychedelic Magi


Where did you get your 11 number memes? hmm

TPTW didn't have a worldwide 11 sacrifice for no reason. Take a look at what I'm saying they mean v.s. what you're saying they mean to see why they'd do such a thing.

Were your ascertions accurate, they'd have the twin towers on an altar.
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anyways
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Allegedly, when the Dogon left Egypt, they brought with them sacred knowledge in the form of oral traditions, perhaps handed down by the ancient priests of Egypt.
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IesUS
similar to other legends of creation throughout the world.
One twin rebelled against the order established by Amma, thereby destabilizing the universe. [link to www.crystalinks.com]
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Where did you get your 11 number memes? hmm
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


The kabbalah. 9 is just below a 'god', the 10th sephiroth, and 11 isn't on the tree - it's the step after 'god'.

for one who works and actually goes thru 'god', they come out as honourable (in their opinion), those that wish to skip 'god' are false.



My personal definition for 11 is "vocation", a call to expand oneself, to evolve in spirit. It is the 2, the number of growth (it takes two to mate)

10 is 'god' in action - it is both the 1 and the step before the next place value (11 is the actual first teen, 10 is just a signifier for the step between the first nine and the continuation in a base 10 system)



TPTW didn't have a worldwide 11 sacrifice for no reason.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


That is for sure.

a sign of ascension and skipping judgement, mebbe?



Were your ascertions accurate, they'd have the twin towers on an altar.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


many things can be an altar.

The earth itself is a holy shrine, an altar, built by the Creator itself.
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
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In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!


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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi


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The man of lawlessness. The church says follow Jesus and you dont have to follow the old testament laws given to Moses. Sin and be forgiven with no personal sacrifice.
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is the body some medium for sum angels' play arround
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haha...

One of my friends on myspace posted this:


"i'm the lord jesus christ... let's get drunk and beat up some midgets"
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
------------------------------------

In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!


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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi


"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me
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can it be there angels without man in egsistance
if they can be there without humans or other mammals, than.. for how long ?
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or.. whats a man whithout love?
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can the tree be-live alone?
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Some people can never get over being left out of an inheritance....

geez....
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Where did you get your 11 number memes? hmm

The kabbalah. 9 is just below a 'god', the 10th sephiroth, and 11 isn't on the tree - it's the step after 'god'.

for one who works and actually goes thru 'god', they come out as honourable (in their opinion), those that wish to skip 'god' are false.



My personal definition for 11 is "vocation", a call to expand oneself, to evolve in spirit. It is the 2, the number of growth (it takes two to mate)

10 is 'god' in action - it is both the 1 and the step before the next place value (11 is the actual first teen, 10 is just a signifier for the step between the first nine and the continuation in a base 10 system)
 Quoting: The Psychedelic Magi




I'm relatively certain that the Kabbalistic Tree of Life is missing the 11th sephiroth so as to make sure no one understands that way out of this realm. The "devil" card shows Lucifer blocking the Tree of Life and that is the "god" that one must "go through" to get out of this place.

And of course, since Lucifer is the author of the Kabbalah, just like every other widely available book here, he is THAT "god" that should never be skipped.

Honestly, what would one expect him to say?




TPTW didn't have a worldwide 11 sacrifice for no reason.

That is for sure.

a sign of ascension and skipping judgement, mebbe?




Were your ascertions accurate, they'd have the twin towers on an altar.


many things can be an altar.

The earth itself is a holy shrine, an altar, built by the Creator itself.
 Quoting: The Psychedelic Magi


Maybe so, but these symbols were openly SACRIFICED on that altar hoping to block what I'm talking about. As I said, did these things really mean what your relating from what you've read, they'd have NEVER sacrificed them on a public stage.
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Some people can never get over being left out of an inheritance....

geez....
 Quoting: Gradient
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The man of lawlessness. The church says follow Jesus and you dont have to follow the old testament laws given to Moses. Sin and be forgiven with no personal sacrifice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


Yes, aimed at making sure no one takes personal responsibility for their own actions imagining themselves to be relieved of ALL consequences for their actions.

The man of lawlessness says the Divine Law of consequence can be skirted, so just do whatever the hell you want to do and then ask for "forgiveness", and POOF, into Heaven you go.

Nope, the Divine Law of attraction of the sames says you simply go to be among people JUST like yourself in regard to LOVE. You either DID Love, or you did NOT Love, and in THAT is your coming destination, not some free pass from Lucifer/Jesus.
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haha...

One of my friends on myspace posted this:


"i'm the lord jesus christ... let's get drunk and beat up some midgets"
 Quoting: The Psychedelic Magi


lol
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Some people can never get over being left out of an inheritance....

geez....
 Quoting: Gradient


And some would kill their own brother to steal his inheritance. I wonder who has the real problem? hmm
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And of course, since Lucifer is the author of the Kabbalah, just like every other widely available book here, he is THAT "god" that should never be skipped.

Honestly, what would one expect him to say?
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Precisely. But his followers do believe his word, which is why they follow it.
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
------------------------------------

In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!


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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi


"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me
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Some people can never get over being left out of an inheritance....

geez....
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That's a VERY interesting link. Thanks hf
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And of course, since Lucifer is the author of the Kabbalah, just like every other widely available book here, he is THAT "god" that should never be skipped.

Honestly, what would one expect him to say?

Precisely. But his followers do believe his word, which is why they follow it.
 Quoting: The Psychedelic Magi


Yes, and precisely why they never really leave this place, never understanding themselves or their reason for being here, locked in a mind labyrinth of mental mastrubation, wandering aimlessly to anywhere but their own Hearts and happiness.
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Indeed it is. The Truth is as it is, and indeed my description of the actions of you Christians is Faithful and True.


Okay, I can feel the 'love' now.


Good, now maybe you'll stop running around threating everyone with the "love" of your "god". hf


"running around threating everyone"


LOL.

Boo!


Sadly, it's not that comical. Telling everyone that they'd better see things your way and "give" themselves to Lucifer or he's going to torture them forever and ever is a damn serious THREAT.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



LOL. Okay, Saxon.
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"Jesus" is a structural manifestation"....a program, if you will. Some truth put into an identifiable form. A tool.
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"Jesus" is a structural manifestation"....a program, if you will. Some truth put into an identifiable form. A tool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626642


Yes, a hammer for pounding the masses into submission and subserviance to the "church" while ignoring their own REAL spiritual development.
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"Jesus" is a structural manifestation"....a program, if you will. Some truth put into an identifiable form. A tool.


Yes, a hammer for pounding the masses into submission and subserviance to the "church" while ignoring their own REAL spiritual development.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


No. There is some TRUTH there. The so-called "church" has chosen to manipulate this tool for their own gains and power.

Whether he was real or not is irrelevant. In base form, his teachings are much like Buddha's. That's all there is to it.
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Some people can never get over being left out of an inheritance....

geez....


And some would kill their own brother to steal his inheritance. I wonder who has the real problem? hmm
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Your brother seems to be doing just fine. Saw him post today actually.
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There is some TRUTH there. The so-called "church" has chosen to manipulate this tool for their own gains and power.
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That is true. Of course, any good deception requires a little truth for it to be accepted
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
------------------------------------

In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.

This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.

I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!


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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi


"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me
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"Jesus" is a structural manifestation"....a program, if you will. Some truth put into an identifiable form. A tool.


Yes, a hammer for pounding the masses into submission and subserviance to the "church" while ignoring their own REAL spiritual development.


No. There is some TRUTH there. The so-called "church" has chosen to manipulate this tool for their own gains and power.

Whether he was real or not is irrelevant. In base form, his teachings are much like Buddha's. That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626642


Every trap has BAIT, and the BAIT is REAL GOOD FOOD.

And it's all REAL tastey until the jaws snap SHUT.
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