Can anyone tell me what the best sugar substitutes are?

the synthetic sugars and the refined sugars are what cause health problems such as diabetes, most cases can be cured by ridding one's diet of refined sugar and MSG

Excellent advice AC that is exactly what I would recommend also for the same reasons.

White refined sugar goes through a process you don't want in your body.

Exactly!!!

You would probably experience all those things if you consumed sugar because you believe it. The same would probably be the case with anyone else who believes as you do. Kinda like some people suffer bad effects when they think they have a curse on them because they believe it.

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Uh, stop with high fructose. Cut back and get your sugar from fruit, honey, and syrup.

Don't forget you are just a mammal. Looking for some chemical shit to substitute your gluttony isn't very healthy for a lot of reasons.

Also, take care of your teeth.

cane sugar, brown sugar molasses, honey, maple syrup. stevia is frickin poison.

I use saccharin. I'm convinced it's fairly harmless, plus it's dirt cheap thanks to all the propaganda against it.

Stevia is an herb, and safe as well as good for you especially Diabetes so they have an alternative to the poisonous alternative sweeteners....:)

Sure, there's no such thing as insulin spikes, adult onset type II diabetes, sugar highs and lows. I think that anyone who denies the metabolic and hormonal disruptions and illnesses associated with refined sugar is out on a limb alone.

As far as mental problems associated with sugar, in the last few years there have been plenty of medical journal articles on the "Western High Saturated Fat Refined Sucrose Diet" and mental disorders like bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, too.

"The results of the multiple (Pearson) correlations are shown in Table 1. The most consistent finding is that a greater consumption of refined sugar is associated with a worse outcome of schizophrenia and a greater prevalence of depression. In the schizophrenia data-sets, a high correlation with sugar consumption was seen both for outcome measures based on hospital admission and those based on social outcome. Other correlations that were found in both schizophrenia data-sets but not necessarily for both admission and social outcome measures included the consumption of meat and eggs (adverse relationship) and the consumption of pulses (beneficial relationship). Dairy products and alcohol consumption were associated with a poor outcome in the IPSS study but not in the DOSMED database. With regard to depression, the strongest association was between a high dietary intake of fish and seafood and reduced prevalence of depression. A high intake of dairy products and sugar was associated with an increased prevalence of depression, whereas a high intake of starchy roots was associated with a reduced prevalence of depression."

"International variations in the outcome of schizophrenia and the prevalence of depression in relation to national dietary practices: an ecological analysis", the British Journal of Psychiatry, 2004
[link to bjp.rcpsych.org]

(edited to update reference)

Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/12/2009 02:19 PM

appologize for repeating my post, it wasn't there when I first did it and now it is, oh well :)

Last Edited by nicole on 04/12/2009 02:15 PM

Yup. And I dont have it ! Been using sugar for ages.

You can get it almost anywhere now. But it does taste like sugar substitute.

This is just another in a long line of popular diet recommendations. There was a time when the "experts" thought eating tons of meat and eggs and milk were sooooooo healthy for us. LOL I can only go by what I know, and I know by personal experience that sugar has no negative effects on health, in fact, if anything, it contributes to a strong and healthy physical constitution and acute mental prowess.

Your personal experiences outweigh all of the medical community, the experiences of millions of other people here in the U.S. and just so happens to coincide with the sugar lobby's shills?

I think that you're a great example of the sad tragedy that refined sugar makes of people's minds.

Yeah..it's called slow poisioning...if sugar were "toxic" to the system so much that it caused immediate death then it would be useless.

Why is it so hard for people to understand we're being spoonfed like babies..literally and mentally


Everything you see is gradually leading you a certain way and is controlled by unseen hands.

Open your eyes people...GAIN SOME BODY AWARENESS...it's easy to feel the effects of sugar and other "drugs" (chemicals) they sneak into you.

Honestly if you can't even observe your own bodily changes and functions....how will you ever expect to master your other surroundings and sense?

Obviously you are convinced of the conventional wisdom about sugar. I think sometimes data can be misinterpreted and/or spun in a way that supports preconceptions. So be a little more skeptical about the things you read. Findings seem to reverse themselves every few years. In another 5 years or so the "medical community" may be recommending sugar for good health and boundless energy. LOL

When you quote scientific data and studies, that's the opposite of "conventional wisdom", actually. Those are empirical, evidentiary arguments, not recitations of conventional wisdoms.

You have no clue how to argue even. AS a shill, you are overpaid, whatever they are paying you.

Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/12/2009 02:34 PM

Honey
But you don't want processed honey. Find a local bee keeper and get your hands on 100% unprocessed, raw, organic honey.

LOL I think you are being rather paranoid. I am not a shill. Just contributing my experience with sugar, refined sugar, and it is contrary to the CONVENTIONAL WISDOM which has been popularized by the so-called scientific data. One feeds the other so to speak. That should be obvious to you if you weren't so paranoid about shills. Maybe if you ate more sugar you wouldn't suffer from illusions of shills under every thread. LOL

Honey is great. It's incredibly healthy for you, if you need sweets. I love raw honey, especially.

But that doesn't answer the OP's question, who has a rotting tooth problem if the name he posted with is correct. Xylitol is an extract but a naturally occurring sugar alcohol that we don't get a lot of unless we eat raw fruits, mushrooms and vegetables (cooking destroys the sugar alcohol's antibacterial properties and slow-metabolism properties).

Sure he should go on other sweets, but Xylitol is the best natural remedy for his particular problem, in that it solves the sugar-mouth tooth decay and is not a synthetic molecule. Xylitol is also good for yeast infections in the ears, mouth and throat (thrush). It tastes like natural sugar.

Xylitol occurs naturally in the fiber of raw fruits and vegetables and mushrooms. The best thing for him to do, obviously, is to get off sweets altogether and eat raw fruits, vegetables and mushrooms to cure his sugar-tooth-rot issue. But few Americans are open to going on raw food diets, even for short periods of time.

And he was looking for a sugar substitute, not advice to stop eating sweets. If he has a tooth decay problem ongoing, then honey won't really help. It's got more fructose than sucrose, but still will feed that bacterial problem, although in some honeys the natural antibiotics they contain might offset that.

I wouldn't recommend going on honey and agave until after the tooth decay is under control.

But I'm not a doctor. Just my

Well, refined sugar is a slow poison, but really, it's a combination of other toxins you're eating -- like MSG that will make a person diabetic and cause many other health issues.

Every prepared food product you buy contains MSG and some form of refined sugar (or chemicals -- like sucralose, aka splenda).

My sister doesn't believe there's any harm in a little bit of MSG, but she doesn't stop to consider HOW MUCH she's actually consuming. A typical cereal for breakfast, a sandwich from Subway, and a frozen meal for dinner = TONNES of MSG and refined sugar.

BREAKING: Refined sugar cure paranoid dillusions and mental instability by making you a mindless zombie!!!!!!!



-AC 655586

Last Edited by nicole on 04/12/2009 02:45 PM

I haven't tried the others listed here. Xylitol might be good but I can't say. Stevia is another one I haven't tried but google it - there are some health concerns (not proven but you might decide it's best not to chance it).

Erythritol is my sugar substitute of choice. It is 70% sweet as sugar. But get this - it is ALMOST calorie FREE. That's almost ZERO calories no matter how much you eat!

It is all natural. No labs and tube tests here. It is taken from fruits.

Also like other sugar alcohols, it is dental friendly.

Unlike some sugar alcohols it doesn't give you the runs. I've heard it might if you eat an ungodly amount. But I don't think it's a major concern.

It is safe for diabetics - it does nothing to your blood sugar level.

The reason it's safe for diabetics and the reason it's almost zero calorie is because you don't really digest it. Apparently you pee it out.

Some would say it's not as good as the real thing or other substitutes but when you take all of the above into consideration it's well worth the trade off.

It certainly does for me. It's like a drug that saps me of strength.

LOL Speaking of zombies, your avatar seems appropriate for one.

Refined sugar is bad for you. If your diet is relatively decent, and you know you feel ok after using sugar, enjoy but don't overdo. If you quit using it for awhile your taste buds will reset and you'll be happy with less in tea, coffee, etc. I do like honey in tea and salad dressing, but for coffee it has to be sugar. For sweets, instead of very sweet commercial cakes and cookies we have homemade muffins sweetened with applesauce and banana. If you are really tough, try eliminating all sugar for 10 days and it will taste very different. MSG, HFCS and all that are horrible. Re fake sugars, in my experience they taste awful and are far worse for you than regular old sugar.

Honey works wonders in the mouth -- it will not cause tooth decay if it's RAW. Actually, if you ever get a spot on your gums that seems a little red and sore, slather some raw honey on it before bed. In the morning, it's gone.

For rotting teeth, start oil pulling, OP. It will stop decay in its tracks, whiten your teeth, freshen your breath, lube up your joints, etc. Your teeth will feel stronger after just ONE time. Slowly swish a tbsp of sunflower oil (or olive, sesame, etc.) in your mouth for roughly 20 mins. Then spit it out, rinse with baking soda and water, then brush your teeth. I do it every day, but 4 times per week should suffice.

Be careful with the oil in your mouth when you've finished oil pulling; it's chock full of bacteria. I'm not sure how exactly it works, but many believe the oil pulls out the toxins, bacteria, etc. in your blood. So yeah -- rinse well with baking soda, then brush really well.

Here's a link:

[link to www.earthclinic.com]

I'm going to enjoy a nice snack of cookies. See ya!