Scientists have long feared H5N1 combining with another more easily transmitted flu.

Kind of a double wammy effect

Can't remember but what were the age ranges for asian bird flu deaths???

Lets make it even more interesting - its Tamiflu resistant.

mmmmmmmm let just speculate more fear

GAME OVER!!! HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS???

I think we have entered the Doom Boom part of the complex economic cycle

The virus has eight genes. The killer genes of which there are four exist in bird flu and the 1918 swine flu. This apparently has one of those genes maybe even two or three but all four have to be present to confer super lethality as they were in the 1918 virus which, according to scientists are actually bird flu genes that moded to be able to infect humans but do not seem to be evolutionarily related to any known bird flu species.

So if there is an individual that is infected by both the current H1N1 variant and bird flu, the fear would be that there might be a reassortment of the genes where the H1N1 picks up the killer bird flu genes.

The bird flu seems to be even more lethal than the 1918 variant. I don't know whether its because the H5 antigen is not recognized by the body's immune defense system or the other components of the virus are even more lethal than the 1918 variant.

I'm trying to figure out what makes a flu virus highly transmissible.

What is interesting Beingsouthern is that Scientists were able to identify the antibodies that many decades later still circulate in the blood of survivors of the deadly 1918 flu outbreak and found that they still proved to be a potent antidote to the disease.
Not only did the antibodies survive, they mutated and became even more powerful.
What is even more interesting is that apparently they(?) are still tracking the 1918 survivors and know their where-abouts. Now how would they go about that.
[link to www.fiercevaccines.com]

you whats cool when you die all you conspiracy bullshit will be reveled. Thats some thing to look forward to.

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I do think it is in Hong Kong now, seen this in news reports, still not classified as "Official"

that is fascinating

Friend may be wrong but this swine flu has bird swine and human flu three of them togethere,now what are you saying.

Asian bird flu has been looking for a vehicle to make it possible for it to be transmitted from human to human...currently it can only be transmitted by bird to human...our current swine flu if, and when it appears in asia, could provide the vehicle for asian bird flu to be transmitted human to human

Did already post this thread a couple of days ago, this is what we call ..... mother fucker!!

I actually saw a University professor say this on BBC. He said the really worrying thing is if this virus reaches countries where there is bird flu and combines with it.

How likely is this scenario in your opinion?

Yes, it is. A blood transfusion from a 1918 survivor could cure the flu.

Let this flu regenerate or transmutate for several months... thru the summer...

And by fall thru early winter 2009, this flu bug will be throttling yer neighbors and family.

Yah, thats how it goes down.

By Christmas we'll all be barfing, sitting on the can or dead.

This article is worrying with regard to the virus combining with bird flu...

Egypt, harder hit by bird flu than any other country outside Asia, has seen a surge of cases in recent weeks, with eight new human infections in April alone -- as many as in all of 2008.
[link to www.newsdaily.com]

WTH is going on with that!!

OP your concern regarding the event is justified

for the record swine flue h1n1 has high transissibility but low mortality ~2.5-5% (depending on information)

bird flu OTOH has low transmissibility but high mortality (around 80% fatality rate depending on information source

clearly a recombinant demonstrating the the transmissability of swine flu with the mortality rate of bird flu would be of awesomely catastrophic consequence

however your comment that it only takes on person with bird flu to contact swine flu, for the super flu to form is not accurate. The way you state it makes it sound like any single confluence will inevitably result in a recombinant variety, THIS IS SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. a recombinante variety whilst not an impossible event will depend on massive spread and interfacing to ensure such a recombinant could occur. it's also likely that the recombination will demonstrate lesser capability in transmissability and mortality rates than it's respective parent virii

so yes it's not impossible but it really depends on the number of binary virus host events that occur, it also depends on the host aquiring both viruses in a particular sequence within a particularly small window of time and then being able to pass on the recombinant succesfully and substantially to a number of others.

Hong Kong is a big place lots of people, kind of improves the odds a bit that it could happen.

Thats what I'm thinking. Everyone here is just talking about a little flu. But, I'm thinking once it gets around the world it could tangle with another variant and come as one of the worst freaking things seen on the planet.

Lets hope not.

oh geez

quite

wiki "spanish flu"

An effort to recreate the 1918 flu strain (a subtype of avian strain H1N1) was a collaboration among the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory and Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York; the effort resulted in the announcement (on October 5, 2005) that the group had successfully determined the virus's genetic sequence, using historic tissue samples recovered by pathologist Johan Hultin from a female flu victim buried in the Alaskan permafrost and samples preserved from American soldiers.[43]

On January 18, 2007, Kobasa et al. reported that monkeys (Macaca fascicularis) infected with the recreated strain exhibited classic symptoms of the 1918 pandemic and died from a cytokine storm[44]


In December, 2008 research by Yoshihiro Kawaoka of University of Wisconsin linked the presence of three specific genes (termed PA, PB1, and PB2) and a nucleoprotein derived from 1918 flu samples to the ability of the flu virus to invade the lungs and cause pneumonia. The combination triggered similar symptoms in animal testing.[47]

While this is true with H5N1 the number of cases that are of this strain are very low. Actually the number of various strains of HxNx should be the window in on this to see that it is being promulgated to other strains therefore spreading a broad base into the population centers which increases their potential immunity.

fuck the scientists's......there are thousands of glper's who have long feared this for decades..

it's my understanding that it has already been combined, and it would have had to be in a lab. this flu is said to be made of swine, avian and human flu virus. here is a link to a thread w/a very informative vid, page one, second vid.
Thread: PHASE 5 = FORCED INNOCULATION ACCORDING TO W.H.O.

on board with that...it hits asia or egypt and crosses...the world bites the dust as we know it

twbtdawki

This virus H1N1 has got all three in it,is it a super flu.

The swine flu / bird flu / human flu virus (H1N1) has now been confirmed as striking victims in New York City, Kansas, Ohio, Canada and is suspected in New Zealand, Spain and Israel. Over 100 people are now confirmed dead from the swine flu (mostly in Mexico City), and confirmed infectious have surpassed 1600. Just today, the U.S. declared a Public Health Emergency over swine flu.

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

WHAT WE ARE GETTING IS H1N1 a super flu you are talking about is it not.
[link to www.naturalnews.com]