Nibiru mix-ups...just more reasons why it doesn't exist | |
RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/16/2009 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And for the record, if in deed one day Nibiru or whatever you want to call it shows up...I will be the first to say I WAS WRONG, but can you see why I'm not too worried about it?! Again I hope it does exist but all I've studied, all the BS contradictory statements, and no hard proof...right now I don't think so! Again I will admit though when I'm wrong which is more than I can say for the believers who don't..they just keep pushing the date back (yeah eventually they might be right) |
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User ID: 438726 United States 05/17/2009 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Nibiru, MUST READ AND UNDERSTAND, CANNOT ALL BE EXPLAINED, YOU MUST VISUALIZE THE REST. "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" --Benjamin Franlkin No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk? Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control ------------------------ Other Interesting Threads by Tantalus: Thread: Anunnaki, Nibiru, Brown Dwarfs, and Gravitational Time Dilation Thread: Amazing Connection!! The Great Pyramid was a Weapon. Valles Marineris the Result? Thread: The True Nature of the Simulation Thread: The Fractal Nature of Time and Matter, The Higgs Field and The Inter-Cosmic Macro-Fractal Electro-Chemical Brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 646448 United States 05/17/2009 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tornados and hurricanes come around every year so we have a pretty good idea what to expect. Nibiru hasn't been here for 3600 years so it's only natural that mankind has conflicting ideas about what it is or what it will do when it gets here. |
RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tornados and hurricanes come around every year so we have a pretty good idea what to expect. Nibiru hasn't been here for 3600 years so it's only natural that mankind has conflicting ideas about what it is or what it will do when it gets here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448good point but just going on what I said earlier...okay hasn't been here in 3,600 years. Okay any proof it was here 3,600 years ago besides some obscure mis-inturpeted pictures on cave walls? Or some quatrain by Nostradamus or Sitchen? I am aware of all the references about Nibiru and the descendants of...however cannot be proven, that's what it comes down to. Not making fun of you or ripping on you...with your tornado reference we can see the aftermath when it comes, besides fairy tales passed on from previous generations there is nothing. |
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RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the PXer's, lol. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519435Its funny everytime I see new "video of PX" they are always asking where the debunkers are so Ill return the favor. And you forgot about the cloaking device, my personal fav. The reason being is I cover all the issues and reasons why it doesn't exist and it's not arguable...at least w/out having to listen to BS about nonsense. I also will admit if I am wrong but all evidence points to...uh no way in hell! It's very very hard to dubunk or argue something when someone has valid points and they know this! Thanks for the comment. |
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RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If earth Rotates around the sun what makes you so sure Nibiru doesn't either ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680956For all you know they rotate on opposite's each other so you never get to see it.. hide and seek.. Again thank you for proving my point!!! How can something have a 3,600 year orbit yet always seem to stay behind the sun lmao. How can it rotate at all in sync with Earth so we can never see it or just get glimpses of it? That would mean Nibiru would have had to be there the whole time, but how could that be if it has an orbit?!!! A planet or whatever the hell you want to call it doesn't just have an orbit come by the sun, chill there for a while rotate with us than leave again...lmao do you know how stupid that sounds!!! THINK ABOUT IT |
RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't have your cake and eat it too, physics will tell you this everytime...Nibiru would have to have always been there always hiding or it has a direct orbit that's it, it can't orbit, slow down and start rotating year after year after year than all of sudden leave and continue..lmao. So it has a 3,600 year orbit but supposedly it's been here since 1996...hmmmm sounds good! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 680956 Malaysia 05/17/2009 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't have your cake and eat it too, physics will tell you this everytime...Nibiru would have to have always been there always hiding or it has a direct orbit that's it, it can't orbit, slow down and start rotating year after year after year than all of sudden leave and continue..lmao. So it has a 3,600 year orbit but supposedly it's been here since 1996...hmmmm sounds good! Quoting: RedBull 608327Actually, why wouldn't it ? You're assuming it's a 'dead' planet and it must behave the same way earth does based on our limited knowledge called science. For all you know, it could be alive, or beings in the planet found ways to move it anywhere they like. It is arrogance to assume that everything else in the universe MUST conform to our understanding of science. Do you realize how arrogant it is to based all knowledge purely on this thing called science, which isn't the be-all-end-all ? If there're other life forms out there way more advanced than us they would be laughing at how primitive and arrogant you are with your be-all-end-all knowledge called 'science'. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 584205 United States 05/17/2009 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next is my one of my favorites...it has been reported that Nibiru is hiding in the constellation Virgo, because of the blocked out sections in google sky and Wikisky. This is very very plausible but no worries cause...The closest star in Virgo is called Spica (look it up) Spica is roughly 250 light years away, again 250 LIGHT YEARS AWAY if Nibiru was in Virgo and it's supposed to be here in 3 years, Nibiru better fucking hurry up!!! Even if it was traveling at light speed it would get here oh I say 250 years lol. Quoting: RedBull 608327Wrong. The anomaly would have to be BETWEEN earth and Virgo. Not 250 light years away. FAIL. Thread: TRUTH ABOUT NIBIRU/PLANETX - Click. Read. Prepare. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 646448 United States 05/17/2009 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way to explain a 3600 year orbit of Nibiru is that it has the same type of orbit as a comet. I like the way Zetatalk explains it. It's orbit is around our own sun, and around our sun's twin which is a dead sun that never lit. [link to www.zetatalk.com] Sitchin has it turning around in the asteroid belt and heading back out into space which he got from the fact that the legends say Nibiru once shattered a planet that had an orbit in what is now the asteroid belt and the ramains of that planet are still there. I think it makes more sense it would get pulled all the way to the sun and past, and then come back around and head back out of the solar system to the twin sun. Since the planet orbits our sun it can technically be called part of our solar system. Since record keeping was spotty as civilizations rose and fell in the past, we don't know for sure that we are near 3600 years since it's last orbit. It could be 200 years or more ahead of us yet, if it still exists and hasn't been blown up or something. Seems to me all the legends of fear about it as well as evidence of past earth changes do show that it once did exist and came around several times before, causing enough of a sensation that legends about it from all over the world have been passed down to current generations. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next is my one of my favorites...it has been reported that Nibiru is hiding in the constellation Virgo, because of the blocked out sections in google sky and Wikisky. This is very very plausible but no worries cause...The closest star in Virgo is called Spica (look it up) Spica is roughly 250 light years away, again 250 LIGHT YEARS AWAY if Nibiru was in Virgo and it's supposed to be here in 3 years, Nibiru better fucking hurry up!!! Even if it was traveling at light speed it would get here oh I say 250 years lol. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 584205Wrong. The anomaly would have to be BETWEEN earth and Virgo. Not 250 light years away. FAIL. Thread: TRUTH ABOUT NIBIRU/PLANETX - Click. Read. Prepare. Okay between Earth and Virgo so lets cut 250 light years in half, 125...go further lets cut it some more lets say it's a 1/4 between still way too far away, won't be here in our lifetime!!! You fail! |
RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't have your cake and eat it too, physics will tell you this everytime...Nibiru would have to have always been there always hiding or it has a direct orbit that's it, it can't orbit, slow down and start rotating year after year after year than all of sudden leave and continue..lmao. So it has a 3,600 year orbit but supposedly it's been here since 1996...hmmmm sounds good! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680956Actually, why wouldn't it ? You're assuming it's a 'dead' planet and it must behave the same way earth does based on our limited knowledge called science. For all you know, it could be alive, or beings in the planet found ways to move it anywhere they like. It is arrogance to assume that everything else in the universe MUST conform to our understanding of science. Do you realize how arrogant it is to based all knowledge purely on this thing called science, which isn't the be-all-end-all ? If there're other life forms out there way more advanced than us they would be laughing at how primitive and arrogant you are with your be-all-end-all knowledge called 'science'. Beings found a way to move a planet anyway they like...hmmm sounds good for sci fi but in reality uh no. We are ignorant but it's ignorant to say there are beings out there that can move a planet wherever the hell they feel like it...lol |
RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way to explain a 3600 year orbit of Nibiru is that it has the same type of orbit as a comet. I like the way Zetatalk explains it. It's orbit is around our own sun, and around our sun's twin which is a dead sun that never lit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448[link to www.zetatalk.com] Sitchin has it turning around in the asteroid belt and heading back out into space which he got from the fact that the legends say Nibiru once shattered a planet that had an orbit in what is now the asteroid belt and the ramains of that planet are still there. I think it makes more sense it would get pulled all the way to the sun and past, and then come back around and head back out of the solar system to the twin sun. Since the planet orbits our sun it can technically be called part of our solar system. Since record keeping was spotty as civilizations rose and fell in the past, we don't know for sure that we are near 3600 years since it's last orbit. It could be 200 years or more ahead of us yet, if it still exists and hasn't been blown up or something. Seems to me all the legends of fear about it as well as evidence of past earth changes do show that it once did exist and came around several times before, causing enough of a sensation that legends about it from all over the world have been passed down to current generations. Fine great lets say it exists and does have an orbit...it cannot sit there in orbit behind our sun for 13 years and not be noticed. And if it does have a 3,600 year orbit and we are not sure when exactly it's due back...we would have seen it by now, it would have been charted. We would know it's trajectory, it's exact position...these are the reasons it does not exist...if it's behind the sun someone would have seen it and posted it's coordinates, if it's on orbit same thing...NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AND THE REASON IS IT DOES NOT EXIST!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 646448 United States 05/17/2009 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fine great lets say it exists and does have an orbit...it cannot sit there in orbit behind our sun for 13 years and not be noticed. And if it does have a 3,600 year orbit and we are not sure when exactly it's due back...we would have seen it by now, it would have been charted. We would know it's trajectory, it's exact position...these are the reasons it does not exist...if it's behind the sun someone would have seen it and posted it's coordinates, if it's on orbit same thing...NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AND THE REASON IS IT DOES NOT EXIST!!! Quoting: RedBull 608327Or else, it's just not here yet, which is about the same thing for practical purposes. If it's not public knowledge by now, then it's not here. I'll agree with that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 680956 Malaysia 05/17/2009 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beings found a way to move a planet anyway they like...hmmm sounds good for sci fi but in reality uh no. We are ignorant but it's ignorant to say there are beings out there that can move a planet wherever the hell they feel like it...lol Quoting: RedBull 608327Oh I wouldn't rule those out. You're assuming that no other life forms out there can do as they wish. You have not seen them, you have never set foot out of this planet, so you should not assume what you can't do, others can't either. That is why science must always question itself as well. Science has no answers for everything. Those who rigidly stick by science alone are limiting their scope of knowledge and mind in a nutshell. Science has it's place but it's not the be-all-end-all. There're many things in the universe we have absolutely no clue about yet we're already seeing scientists trying to factualize things that they themselves have never tested or proven beyond a doubt. Scientists are very clever but also very stupid people. They fail at common sense. The common sense that assumes that everything in existence even those outside of this planet must conform to their limited world of science. Hiding behind science rigidly shows the arrogance and ignorance of man, since science itself is still a baby and doesn't answer everything. Man's arrogance is man's downfall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 664307 United States 05/17/2009 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And for the record, if in deed one day Nibiru or whatever you want to call it shows up...I will be the first to say I WAS WRONG Quoting: RedBull 608327Have your deepest apology memorized and rehearsed as you may need it sooner than you expect. |
RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again this can't happen...if Nibiru is already in our solar system given it's supposed sheer size and density it would be causing so many problems right now it wouldn't be funny. And okay it's not here yet...that's obvious unless you talk to people who have photos using their camera phones. See where I'm going here people stick to one damn thing. IT CANNOT BE ON AN ORBIT, SITTING BEHIND THE SUN, IN VIRGO, OR ALREADY IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM AT THE SAME TIME. It can't be here already cause there would be obvious signs, if it's in orbit someone would of tracked it by now, it's not in or close to virgo...everything points to it doesn't exist. If your going to make up a planet stick to one thing not several |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 681116 Portugal 05/17/2009 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are so stupid they swear they can hear the damn Planet moving behind the Sun! I would like them to explain me how a Planet moving far way behind the Sun can be that size on the cellphone videos. Do they even know that it would mean the Planet is at least half the size of the Sun if it was real? And that a planet that size couldn't possible exist? Like I said: trying to rationalize with lobotomised monkeys. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 681234 Austria 05/17/2009 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One I talked with an otherwise very spiritual man about Nibiru. He told me, last historical funds shows that the Annunakis left the earth in a hurry at 500 b.c. because Nibiru came earlier as planned and it looked like they didn't want to be stuck unto the earth until the next coming because they knew something would happen (after this date there is no reference of the annunakis showing themselves). Even if it seems that the course of Nibiru is not that regular, It would then not be here again for nearly 1000 years. Another thing is that in 2003 at 10 light years, a black hole exploded right in our way and it is possible that there is a massive havoc at around mid 2003, which according to some channeling would provoke the shift. |
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RedBull (OP) User ID: 608327 United States 05/17/2009 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And for the record, if in deed one day Nibiru or whatever you want to call it shows up...I will be the first to say I WAS WRONG Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664307Have your deepest apology memorized and rehearsed as you may need it sooner than you expect. Oh I will apologize if I'm wrong because I would love to see this!!! Can you see why though since 1996 this is all just a bunch of BS. I can and will admit if I'm wrong but I'm sure I have nothing to worry about. Will you admit your wrong and apologize when it doesn't show up yet again? probably not, you will be one of the many who will just push the expectancy date back |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 646448 United States 05/17/2009 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fine great lets say it exists and does have an orbit...it cannot sit there in orbit behind our sun for 13 years and not be noticed. And if it does have a 3,600 year orbit and we are not sure when exactly it's due back...we would have seen it by now, it would have been charted. We would know it's trajectory, it's exact position...these are the reasons it does not exist...if it's behind the sun someone would have seen it and posted it's coordinates, if it's on orbit same thing...NO ONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AND THE REASON IS IT DOES NOT EXIST!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448If it is still out beyond Pluto, then our astronomers might not yet have discovered it. There are many things out there not yet charted and mapped. Problem is, they did discover it (with Pioneer 10 and 11) and announced that they did, then it was covered up, so some say. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 680956 Malaysia 05/17/2009 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your rationalization is based on limited science knowledge. Nothing in this world can be 100 percent justified or rationalized by science. Why should a presence of another planet cause havoc? How do we know it WILL cause a havoc? None of us have ever lived through such a presence. How much is our understanding of matter/antimatter ? It is typically arrogant science that assumes things must happen in their way or else it couldn't happen at all. Even if a real planet is here right in front of your face visible right now, causing no havoc, you science buffoons probably still wouldn't accept it because it's not causing any havoc. Get real. Knowledge is limitless and to limit your reasoning to your limited science is stifling your potential. |