Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

Yes, this is True as the system I described above has been greatly compromised by the fallen watchers.

So, the real picture here is a mixture of the two as the battle between the Light and Darkness rages on.

Of course, this IS Lucifer's domain is it not? Needless to say, those who REALLY pose a threat to Lucifer's kingdom get targeted IMMEDIATELY at conception as I did, with my mothers pregnancy with myself being the thing which caught her cancer in time as she thought she was going to the doctor for a routine pregnancy checkup.

My name at birth was "miracle baby", as pregnant women always aborted when blasted with those levels of radiation in the day.

Anyway, in the battle here between the fallen and the nonfallen, there have been MANY detrimentally impacted on a spiritual level due the extreme excesses here not normally present due this sad situation.

Our Creator did no such thing. Many of us FREELY CHOSE this pathetic existence at the beginning of time, listening to the "beautiful teachings" of Lucifer et al.

Our Creator never demands any such thing. You're confusing our Creator with Lucifer just as those who wrote your Bible hoped and planned.

I have trouble trying to decide which religion is more ridiculous at times, as the above teachings are patently false just like the silly notions of "dying to self" of the Luciferian master Paul of Tarsus.

Our Creator has NO interest in little mindless "selfless" "love droids". Your ego and your self is to be INTEGRATED into your being, not chopped out and thrown on a fire.

But of course, what would you expect to hear from the Luciferian masters here eh?

And here is where Christians TOTALLY get it WRONG! (again)

Suffering has absolutely NOTHING to do with "living right" or "doing something wrong". Take a look around you sometime at all the "wrong doers" and then go take a walk through a pediatric cancer unit at your local hospital.

Who do you think is suffering more?

What do you suppose all those children "did wrong" to "deserve" such suffering?


All of you believing the above are being DUPED by the counter reasoning of Lucifer, your "god".

Again, suffering is a SPIRIT DEVELOPMENT TOOL utilized here for the advancement of desired spirit attributes which can NOT be developed any other way. It has NOTHING to do with doing something "right" or "wrong".

However, for those posing a threat or advancing the kingdom of Lucifer, such is a totally different topic, as Lucifer often "blesses" those who "do his will" while constantly hounding those posing a threat to his kingdom. In such as one would guess, the Christians are totally 180 OUT of the Truth on this matter.

Here is one of my favorite Chick tracts. It is the story of how Jesus Christ ordered the Prophet Elijah to slaughter the 850 false priests of Baal. Firestarter?...

[link to www.chick.com]

REINCARNATION IS A LIE

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


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Saxon (777) works for these people.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 07/04/2009 03:21 PM

REINCARNATION IS A LIE

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:



And here is the companion tract that tells the story of the gruesome end of the wicked King Ahab and Queen Jezebel. Going To The Dogs...


[link to www.chick.com]

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 07/04/2009 02:58 PM

You can only grow in character thru suffering.

Think of the people you know who have an easy life, enough money, no problems, good looks, a great marriage....

You think they are so lucky?

Not really.

They are just "simple" - they cannot take any pressure, so they are not given it.

The ones who suffer a lot, they are the ones with the potential to grow.

If you think the world is just what we see here on earth, there there is no way you will ever understand suffering. This world, and our experiences in it, and how we react, is the gateway to the next world. Thru suffering and growing, (and dying) we make it to a better place.

Believe it, or else you will spend a lifetime of suffering about your suffering. Once you understand that suffering is a blessing in disguise, it won't bother you so much.

It is easy to write words...but if you would be one of those children africa.....such suffering cannot teach anything.

Yay! Esoteric dude to the rescue to confuse us further. Can I dub you "Confusedus"?

Reincarnation is the way of things while on this prison planet!!

Matthew 11: 11: Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
12: And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
13: For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14: And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
15: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

John the Baptist, the prophet that was the herald of Jesus, had been the Jewish Ninth Century B.C. prophet Elijah. "...For all the prophets and the Law foretold things to come until John appeared, and John is the destined Elijah, if you will but accept it.."


Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:.... (Rev 3:12)

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Exactly, and such Truth puts the LIE on the face of Christianity, hence the reason they all mealy mouth the topic.

I knew it wouldn't be long before the turds of Lucifer hit this punch bowl.

Last Edited by Saxon (777) on 06/05/2009 04:05 PM

Are you a spirit watcher knowledgeable in the development ways of spirits?

Still, all of those things these days are difficult to discern as to which is due the usual development profile of a spirit and which are simply due the overgrown weeded nature of this vineyard which has gone to the dogs due the now evil vineyard keepers.

How can the "secrets" of esoterica be publicly posted on a world wide forum?

Dictionary time?

Reincarnation is fact. In the past we only lived 45 years or so. Do you think a soul can learn all its life lessons in such a shosrt time. If the math is an issue then you should consider there is actually 100 trillion galaxies in our universe. Each galaxy can have 300- one trillion stars. Many here come from higher worlds to teach the new souls. Good post as usual Saxon777.

If that indeed is the case, brought here from somewhere else, then they had to drag me here during my kicking and screaming in refusal!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Thanks

I hate to say this, but believe it or not, more than likely you came here willingly to help and just happen to be one of the few that "overcame the Beast".

Congrats.

Great explanation!!!! Thanks!!!

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Carry the Fire in your Hearts

The Ember Stout

The Kernel of Your Divinty

Intact

Breath is Dignity

Knoweth This

Breathe Well


My Friends


The Other Shore

Is but a Hope Away

Pleasure The Senses

For they are the Eyes of

Or Creator


Seek Beauty

Take Refuge

In the courage that it is to You

The Vista of the Rising Dawn

Beckons


Knoweth Also

The Hour is Darkets before Dawn


As we Fear our Perishment

Knoweth Too

The Creator has you in Divine Bliss


Be on Good Accord withh the Hosts

of Heaven

Verily, As many have entertained Angels.


The Old Hermits Rock Wall was coming along swimmingly. A Broken Right indexf finger, a mashed left index from a sledge hammer, the Old hermit took great pleasure in Dividing the clumps of bulbs and planting atop the parapart walls, which he had hewn.


Hi Guy's

I am taking a journey through the wilderness when I come across a fellow traveler who is suffering from exposure, hunger and thirst. I offer this stranger of what I have to provide - shelter, food and drink. The pride of the stranger gets in the way and refuses my assistance insisting on doing it all himself! He goes on his, way. The next day I come across the same stranger a little more worse for wear, again I offer assistance and again it is refused, he goes on his way. The next day I come across the same stranger, this time he is dead!

Who's to blame?

His salvation was within his grasp but for his own misguided reasons he rejected it!

God's blessings flow without ceasing and are available 24/7 to all who will reach out and grasp them. Does this mean that if we do, we won't suffer? In this life we will always experience some suffering because it is the nature of this existence but we also have access to unlimited blessing, we have but to swallow our pride and reach out. Only then will we be at peace with the suffering that this life brings.

Very good post..but God controls all that is going on on the Earth and nothing happens without His consentment. His Spirit and Will sustains it, as it was made by Him.

there is no hell, or rapture or jesus .

christians are all brainwashed

You tell us. You always do, sir.

Thanks man.

Man, I'm having a GREAT day. First, I taught my dog how to drive my car, and he drove me around all day, and then I get home, and I see this fabulous link explaining the wonder of wonders to me....

That's great, good to see you around and kickin.

Answer: he doesn't

He allows freewill which opens the door for much evil. The suffering is a side effect of the freewill.

Because he didn't give a shit?

I look at Africa, Afghanistan,WW1,WW2, Korea,The Russian Gulags,The Holocaust,The Korean War, Vietnam, Iraq, Malaria,Hunger,destruction of the rain forest, atomic bombs and testing, the Killing Fields,Rwanda,Yugoslavia...

And thats just in the last one hundred years.

Now, we can use logic on this.
1. He doesn't give a shit
2. He is on a very long vacation
3. God is not what we think he is.
4. He doesn't exist

I tend to side with number 3 above.