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Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming [link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254206 United States 06/25/2009 05:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Quoting: Phennommennonn[link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Phennommennonn still is as clueless as ever. Selfish as ever, too. Screw the world for her own pleasures, eh? |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206[link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Phennommennonn still is as clueless as ever. Selfish as ever, too. Screw the world for her own pleasures, eh? global warming is a fraud to bring about the carbon tax. :::cluetrai: political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711230 United States 06/25/2009 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206[link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Phennommennonn still is as clueless as ever. Selfish as ever, too. Screw the world for her own pleasures, eh? Fucking idiot...global warming is a fraud and you are a shill sheep dumbass. |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711230[link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Phennommennonn still is as clueless as ever. Selfish as ever, too. Screw the world for her own pleasures, eh? Fucking idiot...global warming is a fraud and you are a shill sheep dumbass. bada bing. thanks dude ^5 political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 690477 United Kingdom 06/25/2009 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am 27 and live in the UK (though I've also spent two years living in Arizona funnily enough). Until I was about 20 I accepted 'man-made global warming' without question, having been taught it as a fact at school in England from primary (elementary) level onwards. However, the more I researched the subject by reading everything I could get my hands on, I began to have serious doubts. The final straw was when I ended up in a serious long-term relationship with a girl whos twin sister was an extremely well qualified and accomplished geophysicist, who is in turn in a relationship with an equally well qualified astrophysicist - both at Cambridge, England. I had many conversations with them both, and their friends. It dawned on me that there is nothing like a 'consensus' on 'man-made global warming' - in fact its far from accepted in such circles. It now seems blatantly obvious that trying to draw accurate conclusions from the relatively tiny amount of information we have collected and collated in the modern age about climate is beyond seriously flawed. It is now embaressingly obvious to admit that its actually the immense forces at work in the cosmos that affect our climate and that the Earth has been at the mercy of these forces since time began; and it has indeed gone through massive changes many times - without there being people here. It is also now painfully obvious that the 'man-made global warming' proponents have turned the subject into a religion/cult - one that they will fight to the last to defend because they have tasted so much power and influence through it. It is no secret that massive amounts of money are now being made from continuing to peddle the misinformation by 'green' companies, massive corporations and various governments. 'Green taxes' are the perfect tax; you can squeeze money out of people and say its to 'save your grandchildren' - who is going to argue against that! We can't recklessly destroy the planet as we will turn it into an unpleasant place to live, but reducing carbon emissions will have no noticable effect on the climate of the Earth - it will fluctuate and change with or without us. I challenge anyone who currently belives in 'man-made global warming' to go out there and spend a few years reading information from BOTH sides of the argument; then draw informed conclusions. Do not write-off the anti-global warming science as 'oil company-funded propaganda' - I know from first-hand experience through scientist I know personally that its not; or at least no more of it is than the green arguments are funded by people like Al Gore. |
Exile
User ID: 706660 Australia 06/25/2009 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | global warming is a fraud to bring about the carbon tax. Quoting: PhennommennonnIndeed. Probably be one of the central platforms of the NWO too - to encourage the sheep to austerity and self-sacrifice for the "greater good". All great truths begin as blasphemies. Nobody's sister set it up the bomb so talk to her. Siriusly ... most of the time I'm only jokering around. Sanity is a crazy man's crazy in a crazy world. :Exile: |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | global warming is a fraud to bring about the carbon tax. Quoting: ExileIndeed. Probably be one of the central platforms of the NWO too - to encourage the sheep to austerity and self-sacrifice for the "greater good". :oceansexac: political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | listen....global warming cant have theorists bc it isnt an hypothesis. to be a theory its just an abstract of beliefs/policy/principles. to be a law of science every mechanism every aspect must be proven. nuff said. theres no proof. its just a bs facade to bring about the carbon tax. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254206 United States 06/25/2009 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | listen....global warming cant have theorists bc it isnt an hypothesis. to be a theory its just an abstract of beliefs/policy/principles. to be a law of science every mechanism every aspect must be proven. nuff said. theres no proof. its just a bs facade to bring about the carbon tax. Quoting: PhennommennonnYou keep telling that to yourself. Save the whole idea of carbon tax came much later. And it is a theory. Just because you have people in fields which are not related to global warming fields say "it's fake" doesn't mean the VAST MAJORITY of scientists deny it. It is also true that people like you never understood what it meant ("oh, it's cold this winter" remarks shows it). The real issue is YOU WANT TO LIVE ON THE HOG and let others suffer for YOUR SELFISHNESS. |
Exile
User ID: 706660 Australia 06/25/2009 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading in "The Green Hoax Effect" by Peter Sawyer that the original ozone hole studies that sparked the modern furor were funded by Du Pont. Why? Because their patent on CFCs was about to run out and they had the patent on the replacement product HFCs. According to him they pulled a similar stunt in the 1960s with DDT. DDT (again apparently) has never been shown definitively to have the harmful effects attributed to it. What DDT was good at however was controlling mosquito habitat and thereby malaria. All great truths begin as blasphemies. Nobody's sister set it up the bomb so talk to her. Siriusly ... most of the time I'm only jokering around. Sanity is a crazy man's crazy in a crazy world. :Exile: |
Andromeda
User ID: 708515 United States 06/25/2009 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Quoting: Phennommennonn[link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't matter what the science says on the matter because the politicians in Arizona are planning to pass laws that overrule scientific professionals in state office. What is wrong about what Arizona is doing is that the politicians of the state want to take control of the scientific environmental work and deliberation away from the professional state scientists and force professional conclusions on the scientists by legislative fiat. Like lawmakers passing laws about what kind of medicine people can take, taking control away from the medical professions and surgeon general professionals. Interesting article, OP. |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | listen....global warming cant have theorists bc it isnt an hypothesis. to be a theory its just an abstract of beliefs/policy/principles. to be a law of science every mechanism every aspect must be proven. nuff said. theres no proof. its just a bs facade to bring about the carbon tax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206You keep telling that to yourself. Save the whole idea of carbon tax came much later. And it is a theory. Just because you have people in fields which are not related to global warming fields say "it's fake" doesn't mean the VAST MAJORITY of scientists deny it. It is also true that people like you never understood what it meant ("oh, it's cold this winter" remarks shows it). The real issue is YOU WANT TO LIVE ON THE HOG and let others suffer for YOUR SELFISHNESS. hey dick-chin...everything 'they' do is done over time so that nobody notices. they came up with this skidmark of a theory, hid behind the green agenda to get ppl on board. now after much time has passed they have ppl who 'want to save the world'...& now they can tax the fuck out of them. remember dumbass, nobody can walk all over you w/o your consent. how does it feel being a front door 'welcome mat'? :glpshills: political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711230 United States 06/25/2009 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | listen....global warming cant have theorists bc it isnt an hypothesis. to be a theory its just an abstract of beliefs/policy/principles. to be a law of science every mechanism every aspect must be proven. nuff said. theres no proof. its just a bs facade to bring about the carbon tax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206You keep telling that to yourself. Save the whole idea of carbon tax came much later. And it is a theory. Just because you have people in fields which are not related to global warming fields say "it's fake" doesn't mean the VAST MAJORITY of scientists deny it. It is also true that people like you never understood what it meant ("oh, it's cold this winter" remarks shows it). The real issue is YOU WANT TO LIVE ON THE HOG and let others suffer for YOUR SELFISHNESS. I would say you are the selfish one who has passed judgment based on evidence with little support...you follow the crowd and cry foul when your mainstream ideas get overturned by solid real evidence....I say lets tax "unselfish" people like you for the 'greater good' and leave Phenom,me,and the rest to say no prove that the tax being proposed isn't going to do anything but make the rich richer...will it stop warming-no only simpleton sheep think that....will it stop pollution-no or probably not have a significant impact....will it make the banksters richer and allow the gub uncontrolled spending....yup...any uestions dumbshit? |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if ignorance were a disability, ac 254206 would get the full pension. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 710914 United States 06/25/2009 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206[link to www.newsmax.com] New Evidence the Earth Is Cooling [link to www.newsmax.com] Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus” [link to www.prisonplanet.com] Phennommennonn still is as clueless as ever. Selfish as ever, too. Screw the world for her own pleasures, eh? Who do you report to and how much do they pay you to be such a clueless ass? |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | State Legislation from Around the Country The following are examples of both enacted and introduced climate change legislation from around the country. State Climate Change Commissions Executive or legislative commissions examine the possible consequences of climate change for a state and the costs and benefits associated with addressing them, and develop recommendations for appropriate policies. Alaska Climate Impact Assessment Commission (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Alaska HCR30 Fact Sheet [link to www.pewclimate.org] Arkansas Governor's Commission on Global Warming (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] North Carolina Legislative Commission on Global Climate Change (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Arizona Climate Action Initiative [link to www.azclimatechange.gov] Kansas Executive Order 08-03 [link to www.governor.ks.gov] Climate Action Plans Often building on the work of their commissions, states design climate action plans tailored to their specific circumstances, seeking the most effective way to address climate change. Connecticut Climate Action Plan (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Maine Climate Action Plan [link to www.pewclimate.org] Colorado Climate Action Plan [link to www.pewclimate.org] Florida Energy and Climate Action Plan (Phase 1) (pdf) [link to www.dep.state.fl.us] Greenhouse Gas Reporting Several states have begun implementing either mandatory or voluntary reporting of greenhouse gas emissions from major sources. The Climate Registry is a non-profit organization that aims to measure and publicly report greenhouse gas emissions in a common, accurate, and transparent manner consistent across industry sectors and borders. California Climate Action Registry California SB 1771 (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] California SB 527 (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Wisconsin Legislation Wisconsin Mandatory Greenhouse Gas Reporting (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Wisconsin Voluntary Greenhouse Gas Registry (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] West Virginia Inventory and Reporting (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] The Climate Registry [link to www.theclimateregistry.org] Economy-Wide Greenhouse Gas Reductions This type of legislation establishes an economy-wide emissions target for the entire state. Hawaii HB 226 (pdf) [link to www.capitol.hawaii.gov] Minnesota SF 145 [link to www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us (secure)] California AB 32 (Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006) (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] California AB 32 Fact Sheet (pdf [link to www.pewclimate.org] Greenhouse Gas Performance Standards for Electric Power These requirements ensure that all electricity used in a state is produced with certain greenhouse gas emissions standards. California SB 1368 (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] SB 1368 Fact Sheet (pdf) Washington SB 6001 (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Minnesota Out-of-State Carbon Sequestration [link to www.pewclimate.org] Greenhouse Gas Performance Standards for Vehicles By law states have the option of either following federal emissions standards for cars and light trucks or following California's standards. Other states that have already adopted or are in the process of adopting the California standard include Arizona, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington. California AB 1493 (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] New Jersey Vehicle Emissions Standards Legislation (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] Washington Vehicle Emissions Standards Legislation (pdf) [link to www.pewclimate.org] States Poised to Adopt California's Vehicle Greenhouse Gas Standards (map) [link to www.pewclimate.org] California Vehicle Standards [link to www.pewclimate.org] Emissions Reductions in the Transportation Sector In many states, transportation is a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions. Some states have enacted laws that aim to reduce vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in the future. Washington HB 2815 (pdf) [link to apps.leg.wa.gov] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711230 United States 06/25/2009 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark my words I have been following the "climate change debate" for over 30 years.....climate change is real and has been an ongoing process fo billions of years....the sun has the most influence on the earth....the sun stangely enough now has gone into coincidentally a period of inactivity unequalled for centuries..... What I think is ironic is what will "probably" happen is all the shills ,politicians,and corporate greedy fucks will get the carbon tax enacted as we go into a Mauder type min and have some of the coldest winters on record as well as summers that feel like winter....then these idiots will say ok no global warming ,"ya I agree now but the tax does cut back pollution doesn't it?" LMAO ya it cuts back noise pollution of all proponents because they superbly hoodwinked the sheeple again and capped world trade by raising yet MORE taxes! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711230 United States 06/25/2009 07:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and please name me a tax that has been eliminated or reduced lately when shown the idea behind the tax was false.....hmmmmm bigmouth supporters ....ain't no such animal is there? Pretty soon i will be paying over 50% of my income in taxes with no choice of representation....sound familiar? |
Phennommennonn
(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark my words I have been following the "climate change debate" for over 30 years.....climate change is real and has been an ongoing process fo billions of years....the sun has the most influence on the earth....the sun stangely enough now has gone into coincidentally a period of inactivity unequalled for centuries..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711230What I think is ironic is what will "probably" happen is all the shills ,politicians,and corporate greedy fucks will get the carbon tax enacted as we go into a Mauder type min and have some of the coldest winters on record as well as summers that feel like winter....then these idiots will say ok no global warming ,"ya I agree now but the tax does cut back pollution doesn't it?" LMAO ya it cuts back noise pollution of all proponents because they superbly hoodwinked the sheeple again and capped world trade by raising yet MORE taxes! theres a lot of differing data re global warming but as far as i can gather over the last 100 years the temps on this planet has gone up 1.8 degrees. am i the only one who finds that amazingly stable? i could go and fuck with the thermostat for three to four hours & i could not detect that difference. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and please name me a tax that has been eliminated or reduced lately when shown the idea behind the tax was false.....hmmmmm bigmouth supporters ....ain't no such animal is there? Pretty soon i will be paying over 50% of my income in taxes with no choice of representation....sound familiar? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711230precisely. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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(OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 06/25/2009 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im surprised texas hasnt adopted something like this. if they have something in progress im unaware. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 601353 Canada 06/25/2009 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good on AZ! Everyone should be against the coming cap and trades. This shit has been in the works for 40+ years. The UN has a string of characters that have worked hard on getting the education systems to indoctrinate the children into the Green Scam. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 642285 United States 06/25/2009 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For their next act our redneck legislators who have on average NO SCIENTIFIC background what-so-ever are planning on "legislating" the hours the sun is allowed to shine on Phoenix and Tucson during the daytime. By doing this they feel they will lower utility bills for all residents and increase the hours we now call dusk and dawn so the best part of the day will last longer! How they're going to get the sun to pay any attention to their legislative efforts has not been considered. They seem to think they are omnipotent - which is a joke considering that most of them over 40 and male are totally impotent, but that's another story... |