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Interesting article on game theory and human behavior

 
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Interesting article on game theory and human behavior
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Irrational markets: people reject free money out of anger

The Ultimatum Game, in which test subjects respond to take-it-or-leave-it offers, has allowed psychologists to explore how humans handle issues like fairness and punishment. But a new study shows some people attempt to punish even when the rules of the game are stacked in a way that makes it impossible.


Irrational markets: people reject free money out of anger

Game theory has provided researchers in a variety of fields, from psychology to economics, an opportunity to test human behaviors under controlled conditions. It allows big questions—are humans rational actors when money's on the line, for example—to be tested in situations where behaviors that deviate from expectations are easy to detect. The Ultimatum Game is one example of these experiments, and it has been used to show that humans aren't purely rational when it comes to monetary decisions, as they appear willing to make financial sacrifices in order to punish others in the name of fairness. A paper that will appear at PNAS this week takes things a step further and shows that people will still reject unfair monetary offers, even when the only one they punish is themselves.

The basic rules of the Ultimatum Game are simple. One person is given a stack of cash, and told to divide it between themselves and a second party. That second party is then given the chance to accept or reject the offer; if it's rejected, neither of them get any money. Clearly, any of this free money should be better than nothing, so under assumptions of strictly rational behavior, you might expect all offers to be accepted.

They're not. Things in the neighborhood of a 50/50 split are accepted, but as the proportions shift to where the person issuing the ultimatum tries to keep seventy percent of the total, rejections increase. By the time they hit an 80/20 split, nearly 70 percent of the offers are rejected, even though that 20 percent of the total cash would leave the recipient better off than where they started.

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Which gies a long way to explain Americas economic policy. Despite the fact that lowering corporate tax rates and capital gains taxes would substantially increase jobs and economic growth, America continues to punish businesses and entrepeneurs.

It goes hand in hand with another "game" from behavioral economics. People were asked if they would rather earn 150,000 dollars and live in a neighborhood where everyone else made 200,000; or earn 100,000 dollars and live in a neighborhood where everyone else makes 70,000

lots of people chose the later.

Irrational!!!

But these folks vote and hence help set economic policy. Irrational voters yields bad policy.
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Dr. Grossberg's work on early developmets of artificial bio-metaphor neural networks explores some of these same concepts.

How ever Dr. Grossberg's work and many others is like studying the behavoir of several different types of transistors in order to understand how your comptuer and its programs work and why they have the behavior they do.

The Problem with Gaming Theory lays in its initial assumptions of character atrributes and behavoirs of non-human systems as well as human pyschologies using only Statistics and Proablity Theory.

For instance Gaming Theory of Poker usually doenst not account for the fact that the winning card in your poker hand just might be the Colt 45 Revolver you are hiding behind your card hand.
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Which gies a long way to explain Americas economic policy. Despite the fact that lowering corporate tax rates and capital gains taxes would substantially increase jobs and economic growth, America continues to punish businesses and entrepeneurs.

It goes hand in hand with another "game" from behavioral economics. People were asked if they would rather earn 150,000 dollars and live in a neighborhood where everyone else made 200,000; or earn 100,000 dollars and live in a neighborhood where everyone else makes 70,000

lots of people chose the later.

Irrational!!!

But these folks vote and hence help set economic policy. Irrational voters yields bad policy.
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You only precieve this to be irrational because you have ignored people's desire to Lord It Over others. If you take that attribute into account the decision is fully irration. It only seems irrational because your theory of human behavior will not admit that people are just sometimes immoral.
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You only precieve this to be irrational because you have ignored people's desire to Lord It Over others. If you take that attribute into account the decision is fully rational. It only seems irrational because your theory of human behavior will not admit that people are just sometimes immoral.
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Hence it seems irrational because what is preceived to be a rational act is based on a false premise, aka, that people must value money more than they do their own sense of superiority over others. Maybe they really do place a higher vary on that sense of self satisfaction in showing thems;eves above others even if of a much small group. Many would rather be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in in a big pond.
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Which gies a long way to explain Americas economic policy. Despite the fact that lowering corporate tax rates and capital gains taxes would substantially increase jobs and economic growth, America continues to punish businesses and entrepeneurs.

It goes hand in hand with another "game" from behavioral economics. People were asked if they would rather earn 150,000 dollars and live in a neighborhood where everyone else made 200,000; or earn 100,000 dollars and live in a neighborhood where everyone else makes 70,000

lots of people chose the later.

Irrational!!!

But these folks vote and hence help set economic policy. Irrational voters yields bad policy.

You only precieve this to be irrational because you have ignored people's desire to Lord It Over others. If you take that attribute into account the decision is fully irration. It only seems irrational because your theory of human behavior will not admit that people are just sometimes immoral.
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What does morality have to do with the psychology of preferring to be the 'rich' one in a lower class stratum than a 'poor' one in a higher class stratum?


Interesting find OP thanks!
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