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Israel and EU Clash Over Settlements

 
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By: Mel Frykberg on: 14.07.2009 [05:35 ]

by Mel Frykberg, July 14, 2009

RAMALLAH – The Israeli Foreign Ministry’s concern over an "unusually harsh statement" by the European Commission over Israel’s settlement policy indicates a growing unease between Israel and the EU.

The European Commission (EC), the executive arm of the EU, said that Israel’s settlement policy in the West Bank was strangling the Palestinian economy and forcing Palestinians there to become more dependent on foreign aid.

"It is the European taxpayers who pay most of the price of this dependence," read the July 6 EC statement.

According to the EC, expropriation of fertile Palestinian land for the settlements, the settlers-only bypass roads which serve them, and the hundreds of West Bank checkpoints manned by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have stunted Palestinian economic growth.

The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) states that $509 million is spent annually on maintaining Israeli settler roads and checkpoints. The bypass roads are meant to make it easier and quicker for Israeli settlers to reach Israel proper, while the checkpoints ostensibly serve their security.

OCHA released a report in June saying that nearly 30 percent of the West Bank, which under international law belongs to the Palestinians, has been expropriated by the Israelis as closed military zones and for nature reserves.

Together with Israel’s more than 100 illegal settlements – home to approximately 500,000 settlers in East Jerusalem and the West Bank – approximately 40 percent of the territory has been taken by Israel.

The West Bank is divided into area A, which falls under Palestinian control, area B, which falls under both Israeli military and Palestinian civil control, and area C, which falls under full Israeli control.

Palestinians pay a high price by losing land while facing difficulties with travel and accessing their agricultural fields. Many are regularly denied building permits by the Israeli authorities to build in areas B and C.

They therefore build without the requisite permits and then face the possibility of being evicted and having their homes demolished by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF). They also struggle to get permits to connect to electricity and water infrastructure.

OCHA says that during the last few months it has seen a tightening of restrictions in areas in and around the West Bank’s Jordan Valley, as well as the Bethlehem and Hebron areas.

The herding and farming communities that reside in Israel’s self-declared military zones in these regions face particular hardships, with their homes and livelihoods now under threat. Many had lost grazing land to make way for settlement enlargement and security. Now they face eviction.

About 300 Palestinians, including 170 children, received evacuation and demolition orders from the IDF in May alone.

Osama Jarrer, deputy director of the Palestinian Authority’s Ministry of Agriculture in the Hebron governorate in the southern West Bank, said many farmers there had been forced to reduce their flocks.

"Because hundreds of farmers are in the same position there is a glut of livestock, so they sell at a reduced price. But even when they sell to get out of the business more than half of them will not be able to pay their fodder and concentrated feed debts," Jarrer told IPS.

The situation of Hebron’s 3,000 farmers, and their 30,000 dependents, has been aggravated by rising international fodder prices and a water shortage.

The water shortage is due to inequitable water distribution between Palestinians and Israeli setters and a drought that has gripped this part of the Middle East for several years.

Meanwhile, as Palestinians experience the practical consequences of Israel’s West Bank settlement policy on the ground, Israel and the U.S. continue to haggle over the theoretical intricacies in capitals abroad.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak met with U.S. Middle East Envoy George Mitchell in London a fortnight ago, the latest in a round of meetings over the disputed settlements.

With a broad smile and much fanfare Barak announced to the assembled media that Israel would be dismantling 23 outposts in the West Bank in the near future. The outposts comprise a small number of caravans, often unattached to water and electricity. They are illegal under Israeli law.

Barak failed to mention the settlements in the West Bank. These range from several hundred residents to small cities with tens of thousands of settlers and associated infrastructure. They are illegal under international law.

One of the small outposts slated for evacuation is Migron, near the central West Bank city Ramallah, after Israeli rights group Peace Now petitioned the Israeli High Court of Justice.

However, the state asked for a year’s extension before the evacuation would take place, leaving plenty of time for facts on the ground to be established.

The 50 families to be evacuated are to be moved to new homes being built in the nearby Adam settlement, a mere reshuffling of settler numbers.

Moreover, according to documents presented to the court, aside from requesting building permits for 50 new housing units in Adam, Barak last month also approved detailed planning for constructing an initial 200 housing units. These will be part of the general construction blueprint for an additional 1,450 units in Adam.

Migron was built illegally on privately owned Palestinian land in 2002. In an earlier petition in 2006 an Israeli court acknowledged the Palestinian ownership and the illegality of the outpost.

But it will only be evacuated in 2010 in theory, and the chances of the settlers leaving voluntarily are close to nil.

Peace Now says the Israeli government is building an additional 73,300 illegal housing units in the West Bank.

Barak’s manner of dealing with the small outpost of Migron portends poorly for Israel’s future evacuation of larger settlements, and it represents a huge disparity between Israeli diplomacy and the reality on the ground.

(Inter Press Service)

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Together with Israel’s more than 100 illegal settlements – home to approximately 500,000 settlers in East Jerusalem and the West Bank – approximately 40 percent of the territory has been taken by Israel.
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Would the one star voters prefer stars were six pointed ones? tounge

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Frankly speaking....is it just me or does anyone really give a flying F$!K about Israel and Palestine any longer? There are way more pressing problems in the world right now.

Sorry OP. It just seems like this story line gets way too much press.
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I believe that the world is changing one day at a time and more and more countries will eventually see the light and stop the insanity that's happening in Israel.

Yesterday England imposed some form of restrictions and today we've got the EU who's speaking out.

Eventually all will side with the Palestinians.
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where is that prick Blair in all this?

just waiting in the wings, I'll bet
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Frankly speaking....is it just me or does anyone really give a flying F$!K about Israel and Palestine any longer? There are way more pressing problems in the world right now.

Sorry OP. It just seems like this story line gets way too much press.
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OK no offense taken, then just post a thread what you think is the most important world issue by now lol ...
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OCHA released a report in June saying that nearly 30 percent of the West Bank, which under international law belongs to the Palestinians, has been expropriated by the Israelis as closed military zones and for nature reserves.

Together with Israel’s more than 100 illegal settlements – home to approximately 500,000 settlers in East Jerusalem and the West Bank – approximately 40 percent of the territory has been taken by Israel.
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There is a 30% neutral zone in the west bank according to your post Islamotard
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I believe that the world is changing one day at a time and more and more countries will eventually see the light and stop the insanity that's happening in Israel.

Yesterday England imposed some form of restrictions and today we've got the EU who's speaking out.

Eventually all will side with the Palestinians.
 Quoting: whisprgently

I would love to see the whole truth coming out and dealt with, at the same time anti Israel violence had to be subdued at all costs.

Justice for justice and the true responsibles accounted for I say, just without more atrocities, we had enough of that.

Then we could start the world all over again ...

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There is a 30% neutral zone in the west bank according to your post Islamotard
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Yeah neutral sure you name calling expert, why don't they let the Palis resettle there then?
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Major Contractor Tries to Divest from Israel as Boycott Pressures Increase
Written by Rose Foran
Published Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Heidelberg Cement, one of the world’s leading producers in building materials, is attempting to sell off its Israeli subsidiary, Hanson Israel Ltd.

The move comes in light of growing pressure to boycott Israeli products and businesses, particularly those that conduct business in Israeli settlements of the West Bank.

Hanson Israel operates a quarry in the West Bank, and mines materials to produce aggregates (sand and gravel), concrete, and bricks, which are used for building. Their products are sold to contractors in both Israel and Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

In March the Israeli human rights organization Yesh Din filed a petition against eleven companies operating in the West Bank with the Israeli high court. Yesh Din claimed that the mining done in several West Bank quarries, including Hanson Israel’s Nahal Raba quarry, was illegal, and demanded that it be halted.

“They’re trying to minimize the damage,” Dror Etkef, director of the Land Project of Yesh Din, said in response to Heidelberg’s attempts to divest amid international pressure and controversy with its subsidiary Hanson Israel.

“I’m sure that they knew exactly what they were doing before,” he told The Media Line, “but the negative PR which they’re now being exposed to is something that scares them—they wouldn’t have any problems doing it otherwise.”

“I think that its part of a trend which can be now seen among other big international companies,” Etkef said. “They’re far from naïve; they’re making long-term economic calculations.”

Many Israeli organizations support the boycott of international companies’ investing in Israel; they believe that it is a positive step towards the eventual implementation of a two-state solution.

“There has been an intensified movement in the last year of international companies to cut off from being involved in the occupation and the settlements,” Adam Keller, spokesperson for Gush Shalom, an Israeli left-wing peace advocacy group, told The Media Line.

Regarding Heidelberg Cement selling Hanson Israel, he said, “We can’t claim credit but we are happy that happened. It’s a very positive trend and we think that the international community has shown that’s its very opposed to the occupation, considering that Israeli public opinion is very much against it.”

“In theory, it is the policy of Netanyahu to support the two state solution, but we don’t take his declarations at face value; he will continue to say that he’s for the two state solution but he’ll do nothing about it.”

“It’s for the good of Israel and for her vital interest that we stop occupying the land of the Palestinians,” Keller said. “The fact that business companies are cutting off investments in the occupation is a very welcomed international pressure.”

Recently, it was reported that French transportation company Veolia would pull out from its involvement in the Jerusalem light rail project. Prior to Veolia’s decision to drop out of the project, there were widespread calls to boycott the company among many Palestinian organizations.

“We have campaigns against many firms that are complicit in the occupation; Veolia was going to run the tramline when it was built,” Don Atherton, spokesperson for the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign (PSC), told The Media Line. The PSC is a Palestinian advocacy organization that orchestrates several Israel boycott campaigns.

“They are still running some bus routes that link Jerusalem to the settlements,” he said. “They run a landfill site for refuse disposal as well, so we’re still campaigning against them.”

“One of the major tactics with Veolia was, because they run several refuse disposals in many councils in Britain, we put pressure on their local councils to avoid using Veolia for future contracts,” Atherson explained.

As to what the PSC hopes to achieve, Atherson said, “The boycotts’ main aim is to get Israel to respect international humanitarian law, end the occupation, and basically respect human rights of Palestinians. That’s the eventual aim.”
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^^ Thanks for this article AC!!!

This is all clear also btw:
“In theory, it is the policy of Netanyahu to support the two state solution, but we don’t take his declarations at face value; he will continue to say that he’s for the two state solution but he’ll do nothing about it.”
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Obama: Pressure on Israel to Continue

by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz
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(IsraelNN.com) U.S. President Barack Obama assured 15 leaders of Jewish American organizations of his commitment to Israel, but he also insisted he would continue to publicly press the Jewish State to conform to his vision of Middle East peace.

Hosting the Jewish delegates in the White House on Monday, Obama said that Israel needs "to engage in serious self-reflection" if it is to succeed in reaching a resolution of the Arab-Israeli conflict. The American president repeatedly made it clear that in his view this can only mean the creation of an Arab state within Israel's current borders. He presented the "two-state solution" as a solution he wishes to promote to deal with Israel's purportedly precarious demographic situation.



President Obama also said that he will continue to press his administration's demands on Israel urgently and publicly, regardless of opposition from the Netanyahu government. Keeping American disputes with Israel from the public eye, as he claimed was done in the past, has not served the interests of peace, Obama informed his guests. He likened this decision to the open and honest conversation needed among close friends.

At the same time, Obama stated, his administration would not adopt a foreign policy inimical to Israel's security needs. Some of those present suggested that a visit by President Obama to Israel would go a long way to assuring the Israeli people of that commitment. Obama expressed approval of the idea.

Regarding Iran, the U.S. leader said that he remains in favor of dialogue. If the Iranians reject that approach, he added, "we will have to see how we proceed. But it would be a mistake to talk now about what we're going to do and how we're going to do it."

The hour-long meeting included the heads of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, AIPAC, the Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Committee, the National Council of Jewish Women, the UJC, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Hadassah, the Orthodox Union, the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, the Union for Reform Judaism, the National Jewish Democratic Council, Americans for Peace Now, and the far-left J Street lobby. The president excluded from the meeting the strongly pro-Land of Israel National Council of Young Israel, a synagogue federation, and the Zionist Organization of America.
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PRC:Israel escalates racist actions in occupied Palestine

London, July 14, (Pal Telegraph) - Palestine Return Centre (PRC) expressed deep anxiety towards Israeli practises in occupied Palestinian territories. International laws, UN resolutions, International court of justice, 4th Geneva conventions and many other charters are being repeatedly and clearly violated by Israel. This is met with a lamentable silence by the International community as well as the Arab and the Muslim world.

With the coming of the recent Israeli government, more racial practises are committed against Palestinians. Judaising Jerusalem through ethnic cleansing forceful expulsion of Palestinians is unremitting. In an effort to deny the culture and history of Palestinians a shameful decision was made yesterday by the Israeli government to change names of Arabic cities into Hebrew.

As Netanyahu government took office, more than 1600 demolition orders were issued in Jerusalem. Hundreds of these were put into practise resulting in the displacement of thousands of Palestinians. Sickeningly, some Israeli contractors offer housing services in the demolished estates with reduced prices for only Jewish people.

Palestinian sources in Jerusalem said that over 80 houses received demolition notifications in Al Bustan neighbourhood, an area which is planned to be to be turned into gardens for Israelis.

Yesterday decisions issued by rightist Israeli transportation Minister, Yitsrael katz, was a clear-cut evidence of the Israeli intension regarding a Jewish Israeli state. The decision aims at changing the long-lasting names of Arabic cities known for thousands of years into Hebrew language. PRC considers this as a move towards other dangerous steps to eradicate Palestinian Identity.

On the West Bank, the illegal settlement building is never-ending as well as confiscating lands and building the ‘apartheid' Wall.

The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in Occupied Territories, "B'Tselem," reported that the number of settlers in the West Bank increased to 289600, since Israel agreed to the roadmap peace plan, which demands the freezing of all forms of settlements. An Increase in the number of settlers is estimated to be 37% in 6 years.

According to International law, those settlements are illegal since they are established on 1967 occupied lands.

In contrast to the American and European official positions, the Israeli government didn't clarify its positions and went more on building settlements under the pretext of natural growth for the Jewish settlements.
Furthermore, the ‘apartheid' Wall continuous to encroach and steal more Palestinian lands across the West Bank, despite the fact that it is illegal according to the international court of Justice.

The fact that successive Israeli governments have continued to build this wall against world opinion demonstrates that it's not a matter of internal party politics between extremists and moderates but a fundamental policy demonstrating the zealotry of the Knesset.

Given the routine oppression and suffering inflicted on the occupied Palestinians it is clearly evident that there is an apartheid policy that is being practiced by Israel.

PRC requests there is real international pressure to end the routine practices of violence and intimidation and force Israel back from a rogue state to one that upholds basic international law.


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Part 2: Will Gaza residents succumb to the same fate as the residents of Basra?

London, July 14, (Pal Telegraph) - We can see in this pictures some of the heavier bombs that were dropped on Gaza but didn't go off.

Was this a blessing or had the contamination of Gaza already taken place? We know that many weapons contain Depleted Uranium but we do not know what is contained in these bigger munitions of war. As we have previously reported in my last article some of the larger bombs dropped in Lebanon were "Dirty Bombs" that contain Enriched Uranium.

The question is where are these bombs now? Have they been removed by the UN and hidden or is Hamas still holding them somewhere? Either way we have to have these large weapons analysed and tested. There would also be more evidence lying somewhere in Gaza that will provide more substantial proof that the IDF were and still are using illegal weapons on the Gaza Strip.

My purpose for attempting to visit Gaza onboard the "Spirit of Humanity" was to meet with the authorities in Gaza to explain the current status in Gaza and how they can alleviate secondary contamination. I did not manage to sail from Larnaca as the whole operation became a political farce with many grey areas that caused me deep concern. Loaded with so much evidence I can only thank God those circumstances caused me to be left behind as the boat was intercepted by the Israeli Navy and the crew and passenger ended up in an Israeli prison.

Before we talk about the contamination of Gaza we have to fall back on the Iraq experience to truly evaluate the problems that lies ahead, not only in Gaza but also in Lebanon. This we will cover later after first revealing the data from Iraq.

Lets know look at the experience from the Iraqi perspective which was accurately written up by Dr. Souad N. Al-Azzawi Assoc. Prof. / Mamoun Univ. for Science & Technology Titled : Depleted Uranium Radioactive Contamination In Iraq. Vital parts of his report are written below:

Dr Al-Azzawi opened up with this powerful statement:

"Depleted Uranium (DU) weaponry has been used against Iraq for the first time in the history of recent wars. The magnitude of the complications and damage related to the use of such radioactive and toxic weapons on the environment and the human population mostly results from the intended concealment, denial and misleading information released by the Pentagon about the quantities, characteristics and the area's in Iraq, in which these weapons have been used"

rockets_of_Israel_in_GazaDr Al-Azzawi stated that the revelation of information regarding what is called the Gulf War Syndrome among exposed American veterans helped Iraqi researchers and Medical Doctors to understand the nature of the effect of these weapons and the means required to investigate further into this issue.







Unexploded Israel rockets in Gaza

The synergetic impact on health due to the post Gulf War I economical sanctions and DU related radioactive contamination raised the number of casualties in contaminated areas as in southern Iraq.

Continual usage of DU after Gulf War I on other Iraqi territories through the illegal No-Fly Zones and the major DU loaded Cruise Missiles attack of year 1998, all contributed in making the problem increasingly complex.

During 2003, military operations conducted in Iraq by the invading forces used additional rounds of DU in heavily populated areas such as Baghdad, Samawa and other provinces. It is only fair to conclude that the environment in Iraq and its population have been exposed continuously to DU weaponry or its contaminating remains, since 1991. Accordingly millions of Iraqi's have received higher doses of radioactivity than ordinary background levels. As a result a multi-fold increase of low level radiation exposure related diseases have been registered since 1995. An increase of children's leukaemia, congenital malformations, breast cancer etc...

This vital document revealed some interesting facts:

The shift of leukaemia incidence rates towards younger children during the recent years, and its association with geographically distributed contaminated areas, offers strong evidence of the correlation between LLR exposure and resulted health damages.

Through this paper, an overview of major scientific DU conclusions will be presented, drawn from investigations and research conducted since the year 1991 by Iraqi researchers and MDs. Schemes of these researches can be classified into three categories:

1. DU contamination detection and exploration programs.

2. DU effects on human body cells.

3. DU related epidemiological studies.

With the comprehensive sanctions that were imposed on Iraq, the USA & its allies purposely used these radioactive & toxic weapons to exhaust Iraq's strength & population to prepare for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Hundreds of tons of (DU) expenditure were also used during the invasion of Iraq. This was done to worsen the radioactive contamination impact. Additionally, the occupying forces have forbade any kind of (DU) related exploration programs or research. They have also covered up and denied DU's damaging health effects, and refused to release information on the amounts, types and locations of these weapons within Iraq. As a consequence, thousands of Iraqi children and their families are suffering from different low level radiation (LLR) related diseases such as congenital malformations, malignancies, congenital heart diseases, chromosomal aberration and multiple malformations. Women in the contaminated areas suffered high rates of miscarriages and sterility.

The American and British occupation forces are totally responsible for:

1- Forbidding any release of statistics related to civilian casualties after the occupation.

2- Refusal to clean up contaminated areas.

3- Depriving international agencies and Iraqi researchers the right to conduct full (DU) related exploration programs by USA occupation forces to prevent further damages is the best evidence that these forces are covering up their certain conclusive evidence of the harmful health impacts of DU.

All these acts are crimes against humanity because these weapons are causing undifferentiated harm and suffering to civilians in all contaminated areas. Health effects can range from fatigue and muscular pain to genetic disorder, chromosome aberrations, and malignancies. Existence of DU in the environment will maintain continuous exposure to both toxic and radioactive effects which represent continuous systematic attacks on civilians in an armed conflict (Article 4 of the official regulations and article 7 of ICC).

In addition to the extremely high human suffering we have to add the area of contamination as a result of the onslaught namely:

o 1718 km² of soil contaminated with DU oxides and particles,

# 140,000 m² of channel sediments,

o 845, 100 tons of vegetation cover



We feel obligated to let the world know that some of these researches cost the authors their lives e.g. Dr. Alim Abdul Hameed Yacoub who was killed, along with his son, when his car was forced off the highway on the way to his home town of Basrah after being attacked twice at his home by pro-occupation militias two weeks before his death. They cost other researchers their freedom, such as Dr. Huda Ammash who was accused of being (Lady Anthrax) and imprisoned without any real accusation for 3 years. The assassination of 250 Iraqi scientists after Iraq's invasion by occupation militias is the best way not to continue any kind of research including DU-related research in occupied Iraq.

Conclusion:

1- The USA and UK continuously used Depleted Uranium weapons against the population and environment in Iraq from 1991 until today.

2- Occupation forces in Iraq intentionally denied and covered up the types, locations and amounts of weapons that were used to prevent taking measures which could reduce health damages resulting from LLR exposure.

3- Occupation forces prohibited UNEP, WHO and other international agencies to conduct any exploration programs to assess the health risks to the people of Iraq of these radioactive contaminants.

4- Forbidding the release of any casualty statistics by the health ministry in Iraq right after the occupation is part of the crime that has been continuously committed against Iraq and Iraqis.

5- Exploration programs and site measurements proved without a doubt that the existence of DU related radioactive contamination all over most of Iraq (except the northern area of Kurdistan).

6- Published epidemiological studies in Basrah introduced a clear correlation between DU related exposure to LLR and the multifold increase of malignancies, congenital malformations and multiple malformations in detected DU contaminated areas.

7- Other pathological and hematological studies indicated the existence of chromosomal and DNA aberrations and abnormalities in the 1991 Iraqi Gulf War veterans. Other studies proved their effects on lowering the activities of the human immune system in exposed individuals.

8- Iraqi researchers' site measurements of 2000 revealed the fact that the Muthana governorate and Al-Samawa city were contaminated since 1991. This fact was proven by the Dutch troops in 2003, and then the American Guardsmen who served in that area after the invasion and confirmed exposure to DU contamination after coming back home by Dr. Drakovic.

9- Intentional continuous use of DU against the people and environment of Iraq is a crime against humanity due to its undifferentiated harmful health impacts on civilian long times after the military operations. Existing DU contamination in the surrounding environment is a continuous source of (LLR) exposure to civilians which can be considered systematic attacks on civilians in an armed conflict. Article 4 of the official regulations and Article 7 of the ICC.

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Does this child in Gaza know what lies beneath his feet as he plays around in this pile of rubble?

Do we in the international community really care that Gaza is contaminated and those locations should be secured and sealed from public access (especially children)?

Who will decontaminate Gaza?

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^^ Thanks for this article AC!!!

This is all clear also btw:
“In theory, it is the policy of Netanyahu to support the two state solution, but we don’t take his declarations at face value; he will continue to say that he’s for the two state solution but he’ll do nothing about it.”
 Quoting: FreeFlow



yw.. feel free to use them in proper context separately if you want.
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Obama tells Israel to engage in “serious self-reflection”, does not discuss Jewish settlements

US president meets representatives of Jewish-American groups, reiterates his “unshakable commitment to Israel's security,” and “his commitment to working to achieve Middle East peace”. The White House leaves door open for dialogue with Iran. Some participants complain Washington his harsher with Israel than with Iran.

Washington (AsiaNews/Agencies) – Barack Obama has called on Israel “to engage in serious self-reflection” but did not talk about differences with the Netanyahu government over Israeli settlements in the West Bank during a meeting on Monday in the White House with 16 leaders representing 14 Jewish-American organisations.

During the talks, which also focused on the security of the Jewish State and the situation in Iran, Mr Obama “reiterated his unshakable commitment to Israel's security, and reiterated his commitment to working to achieve Middle East peace.”

Likewise he said that his administration wanted to help Israel overcome its demographic problem by reaching an agreement on a two-state solution

For their part Jewish leaders did not hide their concern over disagreements between Washington and Jerusalem during the White House meeting.

One of the participants asked the president to take a lower profile regarding public differences between his administration and the Netanyahu government over Israeli settlements in the West Bank. He also complained that the United States appeared to take a harder line with Israel than with Iran.

Obama said that the old approach to the controversial issue of settlements was not helpful. He reminded his 16 guests that during the eight years of the Bush administration disagreements between Israel and the United states did not lead to a breakdown in relations, nor did they become the subject of public debate.

Since they came into office, both President Obama and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on several occasions urged Israel to stop its illegal settlement activities in the West Bank, insisting that this is a necessary condition for the resumption of peace talks with the Palestinians.

However, Israel shows no signs that it is prepared to stop settlements, insisting instead on their “natural growth”.

Conversely the Palestinian Authority made it clear that it will not sit down for talks until settlements activities end. Their mere existence is an impediment to the territorial unity of any would-be Palestinian State.

On the Iranian nuclear issue, Obama told the leaders that “the door to dialogue is open. If the Iranians do not walk through it, however, we will have to see how we proceed. But it would be a mistake to talk now about what we're going to do and how we're going to do it.”

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Fortunately enough Obama isn't the unconditional Israel asskisser like bush was, at least so far ...

Wish him luck and a long life!
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07/14/2009 10:13 AM
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Frankly speaking....is it just me or does anyone really give a flying F$!K about Israel and Palestine any longer? There are way more pressing problems in the world right now.

Sorry OP. It just seems like this story line gets way too much press.
 Quoting: Family Guy

You have an odd way of showing that you dont give a fuck about it. You clicked the thread, then you clicked reply, then you typed, then you posted and probably clicked several times to see what people may have replied to your post.
Dont you think?
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07/14/2009 10:16 AM
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Israeli parliament aides object to tasks

[link to www.upi.com]

JERUSALEM, July 14 (UPI) -- Some parliamentary assistants are complaining tasks assigned by Israeli parliament members are not job related, officials in the Knesset said.

A report in Yedioth Aharonoth reported Tuesday one assistant was asked to check if electric appliances in the private home of a Knesset member worked, another was asked to clean a parliament member's car and a third was sent to buy Viagra
at a pharmacy
, the Tel Aviv newspaper said.

Responding to the complaints, an unnamed senior source in the Knesset said while some of the tasks may be unpleasant, they appeared to be legitimate. However, the source said assistants' duties do not include private family tasks or purchasing medication
in pharmacies, the newspaper said.

Knesset members are entitled to hire two assistants whose salaries are paid by the Knesset to help with parliamentary duties.

lol
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07/14/2009 10:18 AM
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Worst bus accident in Israel results in manslaughter charge

Kyrgyzstan News.Net
Tuesday 14th July, 2009

An Israeli bus driver has been charged with manslaughter after allegedly causing an accident which killed many people.

The driver, Edward Galfond, was charged with causing the deaths of 24 travel agents who were visiting from Russia.

Prosecutors have alleged Galfond accelerated at high speed to overtake another bus on a dangerous, curved road in a hilly region near Eilat.

Theyu say Galfond was unable to slow the vehicle in time to avoid bursting through a protective barrier and rolling over.

[link to www.kyrgyzstannews.net]
FreeFlow  (OP)

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07/14/2009 10:21 AM
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Sorry AC, don't overload this thread please, your last two articles weren't even much topic related ...

No offense intended!

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/14/2009 10:21 AM
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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07/14/2009 10:24 AM
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Fast for Gaza--it's time to go viral for peace in the Middle East

"What Israel has been doing to the people of Gaza is an outrage. It has brought neither safety nor security to the people of Israel and it has wrought nothing but misery and tragedy upon the people of Gaza”, said Rabbi Brant Rosen of Evanston, IL. Joining forces with Rosen is Rabbi Brian Walt of West Tisburry, MA. The two are calling together other rabbis, Jews, non-Jewish religious leaders and people of conscience to join Ta'anit Tzedek - Jewish Fast For Gaza.
As prologue to this call to action, these courageous rabbis write, “Since Hamas electoral victory in January 2006, Israel has subjected the Gaza Strip to an increasingly intolerable blockade that restricts Gaza's ability to import food, fuel and other essential materials, and to export finished products. As a result, the Gazan economy has completely collapsed. Most of Gaza's industrial plants have been forced to close, further contributing to already high levels of unemployment and poverty and rising levels of childhood malnutrition…

…(but) we cannot separate our call for justice in Gaza from the painful truth of this conflict and the ongoing tragedy of war in this tortured region. We condemn Hamas’ deliberate targeting of Israeli civilians. Out of the same ethical commitments we also condemn the use of much greater violence by the Israeli government, causing many more deaths of Palestinian civilians. Since the end of Israel's recent military campaign, the severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza has grown all the more dire.”

I have signed on to the Fast For Gaza and I hope you will too.

Fasting is a spiritual practice found in nearly all of the world’s religious and spiritual traditions. As a Protestant Christian I had never felt sufficiently motivated to fast until the Ramadan that followed upon 9/11. I have since taken up the fast as a spiritual practice several times. Whenever I have fasted I realize that when my basic need for food is not met, my impulse is to rationalize why I should stop fasting.

Early on in the fast my personal discomfort looms large. But over time I realize that the purpose of my personal discomfort is to call me to a greater comfort. There is something miraculous and mysterious about letting go of me and connecting to the larger longing of we.

Anyone who has ever fasted knows what I am talking about.

Taking the pledge to Fast for Gaza means to make the commitment to drink only water from sunrise to sunset on the third Thursday of every month, the first being Thursday, July 16.

Whenever I have fasted I feel pretty virtuous until about two o’clock in the afternoon. Then there is a twinge in the stomach. Clearly, this is less a challenge in the winter months!

But the practice of fasting has taught me that discomfort is not my enemy. It is a part of life. Feeling uncomfortable I feel the impulse to fight it or flee. But if I stay with it, stay with what's going on for me--I am able to eventually climb out of the prison of the self.

I fully anticipate that when I begin The Fast for Gaza and feel the pangs of discomfort I will at least remember those in Gaza who are living with a suffering that I cannot possibly comprehend.

I have talked to a lot of people who seek spirituality because they think that spirituality will bring them the satisfaction they haven’t been getting. Many people assume that the purpose of spirituality is to make us generally feel good, to give us warm fuzzies—to remove the uncomfortable aspects and difficulties of our lives.

But deeply spiritual commitments have a way of doing exactly the opposite.

Whenever people say to me, “I want to develop the spiritual aspect of my life”, I always respond the same way, I ask “What in life is not spiritual? What in your life can you think of, that is not connected to something or someone else?”

Spirituality is the process of waking up to see that everything is interdependent and interrelated.

All of life is sacred. The divine presence permeates every molecule in every moment. God is the ground of being from which every being draws life and breath. Every life form derives its energy from the one Source.

In this spirit, I invite you to join me in the Fast For Gaza. If for some reason you are unable to fast but want to add your name to the fast you can skip a meal, if that's not possible, light some candles or create a ritual that will mark each third Thursday. There is no excuse to do nothing.

Make a difference. Help get the word out. Share the Fast For Gaza website with family, friends and email lists.

If ever there was a good reason to go viral, this is it.

[link to www.examiner.com]
Anonymous Coward
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07/14/2009 10:25 AM
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Sorry AC, don't overload this thread please, your last two articles weren't even much topic related ...

No offense intended!
 Quoting: FreeFlow



alrighty..

US rabbis launch 'Jewish Fast for Gaza' initiatve

[link to www.jpost.com]


last one I guess..
Anonymous Coward
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07/14/2009 10:36 AM
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There is a 30% neutral zone in the west bank according to your post Islamotard

Yeah neutral sure you name calling expert, why don't they let the Palis resettle there then?
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What and let these terrorist come closer to Israel just to launch more rockets. Fuck you Islamotard.
Also neutral zone = no mans land and it has been that way in west bank since after WW3.

Israel has done nothing wrong because they have left a large gap in between them and the rest of Gaza. That is not a crime you Islamotard.
FreeFlow  (OP)

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07/14/2009 10:41 AM
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^^ Nice deflection wankery, what has this all to do with Israel's illegal settlement policy you nazio shill?

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/14/2009 10:42 AM
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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07/14/2009 10:42 AM
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Would the one star voters prefer stars were six pointed ones? tounge
 Quoting: FreeFlow

Slip in a little jew-bashing whenever possible, then claim you only dislike some Israeli government policies.
FreeFlow  (OP)

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07/14/2009 10:44 AM
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Slip in a little jew-bashing whenever possible, then claim you only dislike some Israeli government policies.
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If that's jew bashing for you then I don't know ... if you can't stand a harmless joke then you'd better stay in your closet all the time.

You probably would love to forbid five pointed stars cause they deny Israel's right to exist or whatever BS ...

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 07/14/2009 10:45 AM
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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07/14/2009 10:52 AM
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^^ Nice deflection wankery, what has this all to do with Israel's illegal settlement policy you nazio shill?

[link to www.haaretz.com]
 Quoting: FreeFlow

Why have you pointed to a very unreliable news site? let me guess to try to look like the good guy here. Now let me tell you a little bit about clear propaganda, It is easy to debunk and everything pro-Islam is 90% wrong all the time according to most of the worlds msm. How can everyone be wrong and a unreliable blogging site be legit when anyone can write bullshit. The msm are reporting facts not biased extremist Islamic lies now don't fuck around here.
Give it up you Islamotard.
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07/14/2009 10:54 AM
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^^ Nice deflection wankery, what has this all to do with Israel's illegal settlement policy you nazio shill?

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Why have you pointed to a very unreliable news site? let me guess to try to look like the good guy here. Now let me tell you a little bit about clear propaganda, It is easy to debunk and everything pro-Islam is 90% wrong all the time according to most of the worlds msm. How can everyone be wrong and a unreliable blogging site be legit when anyone can write bullshit. The msm are reporting facts not biased extremist Islamic lies now don't fuck around here.
Give it up you Islamotard.
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It's true- FreeFlow posts an awful lot of blog articles...
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