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USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad

 
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10/02/2013 10:12 PM
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Re: USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad
FUCK!!!! F-15 didn't come on line until 1972...we aRE SO FUC...WAIT...NOT!
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10/02/2013 10:21 PM
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I'm dissappointed none of you saw through to the real motives behind the article(s). Its all just a ruse. I'm not saying the Russians don't make good aircraft, or that the Indians have good pilots. Both are very true.

But this is all about Airforce posturing, nothing more. They want their billion(s) dollar toys (F-35, others)that are so very unpopular in many circles, and have to justify them. It's hard to justify replacing an aircraft that has never been shot down anywhere in the world in air-to-air combat. So they have to create a percieved need, and that is what articles like this are doing.

The F-15, just like the A-10, does it's job too damn well, and neither are popular with the Airforce brass because the only way you make it to the top in the AF is by being involved with fancy hi-tech projects like the F-35.
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People gotta face it. The vast majority of America's conventional weapons, naval, air, armor, artillery are far outclassed by soviet and chinese developments.

Ar15 garbage, fragile, underpowered, history of revisions just to ensure its truley serviceable in moderate to heavy conditions. AK47 tested and true since its inception with very little need to modify.

Abrams Tank - outclassed by the T90 and even German Leopards

Bradley's - huge mistake by the highest bidder, money pit of development revisions, way outclassed by new models from a ton of countries.

This is all by design, a nice and weak for the big Red Dawn coming.

the days of convential dominance is way way over.

However the stocks of unknown nonconventional platforms may be evenly matched.
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12/05/2013 03:14 PM
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ukraine ukraine ukraine oh yeh
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Re: USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad
The gazan women and children with bombs strapped to them by the nut job islamo husbands attempting to blow up any and everyone they can.
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Why, are you here to abuse this thread for your pro nazio poopaganda also?
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um, it seems you are the one who are talking sh*t about Israel which means you are the anti-Semite nazi.

this person attempts to bring clarity by telling it like it is : religious fanatics should be treated like the mentally ill and have their rights to bear arms stripped away.
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12/05/2013 03:25 PM
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Re: USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad
The F-15 has quite a decent kill record against MiG-29's if I recall correctly.

Examples please!
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Iraq/Kosovo

A dozen or so Fulcrums downed by F-15's.
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How many in close air to air because they got spanked against Typhoons recently.
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12/05/2013 03:32 PM
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Re: USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad
It's interesting when talking about this.

Honestly, there hasn't been many public breakthroughs in airplanes.

We've reached a point where technology can create maneuverability greater then a human's threshold.

Which means, the edge is with drones, robotics, and telecom.

A human pilot will be a liability in the near future.
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Re: USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad
In the seventies the Russian central aerodynamics institute did some fundamental research into creating a wing that could maintain laminar flow at high angles of attack ( high alpha ) when the wing should be in deep stall. The product of that research was the Mig-29 and the SU-27 family.

The highlight of airshows in recent years ( apart from the Red Arrows ) has the SU-27 performing cobras and other manoeuvres. This has now been bettered by the Mig-29M OVT you can see in the video above. I don't know if they fly in American airshows but there is nothing in the West that can touch them for manoeuvrability.

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