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****BREAKING**** CA ATTORNEY REQUEST GRAND JURY PROBE INTO KENYAN BIRTH CERTIF!

 
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2009-08-04 07:05:30 - Powerhouse Andy Martin says the filing of a purported “Kenyan Birth Certificate” for Barack Obama with a federal court in California opens the way to an FBI/Department of Justice inquiry into the provenance of the document. Martin’s Chicago news conference Tuesday will release copies of requests to the FBI and Attorney General Eric Holder requesting an investigation of the “Kenyan” document.

Internet Powerhouse Andy Martin says a “Kenyan birth certificate” of Barack Obama is probably a forgery

Martin says the time has come to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Obama’s “records”

Martin seeks an FBI/DOJ probe of Obama “birth” documents, says they may have been important college application forgeries.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

ANDY MARTIN SAYS A “KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE” OF BARACK OBAMA IS PROBABLY A FORGERY, BUT WHO FORGED THE DOCUMENT IS WORTHY OF FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION

ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER IS ASKED TO APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR AND FEDERAL GRAND JURY TO PROBE “KENYAN” DOCUMENT

OBAMA BIRTH CIRCUS, WHICH CNN DECLARED “DEAD” JUST DAYS AGO, IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE INTO THE “MEATHEAD” MEDIA

(CHICAGO)(August 4, 2009) Internet Powerhouse Andy Martin, the crusading columnist and investigator who five years ago began asking tough questions about Barack Obama’s childhood religion and birth certificate, and who today is a U. S. Senate candidate from Illinois, will hold a Chicago news conference Tuesday to announce he has asked Attorney General Eric Holder to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate a purported “Kenyan birth certificate” of Barack Obama.

“In my personal opinion Martin will state, “The purported ‘Kenyan birth certificate’ KBC of Barack Obama is a forgery. But who forged it, and why? These are questions that Americans want answered.

“Over the past five years, beginning in August, 2004, I have written a number of columns and a bestselling that Barack Obama’s operatives have attacked. But almost every allegation that I made in those columns and in my book has ultimately been proven true. Obama himself has admitted many of my claims.

“The only exception to the ‘truth’ of my factual claims is my expressed 'theory' involving Obama and Frank Marshall Davis. I labeled the Obama-Davis connection a theory, not a fact.

“I was the first, for example, to suggest Barack Obama was born with dual US/UK nationality, a claim that he later admitted.

“I filed the first, and so far only, lawsuit in Hawai’i to open to public view what I believe is now an archive of American history: Barack Obama’s original, typewritten 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate. Obama has obstructed access to that document.

“A California attorney has now filed a purported KBC with a federal forum. The Department of Justice and FBI automatically have jurisdiction to investigate matters filed in federal court.

“I want to stress that I have no connection of any sort with the KBC. And I have serious questions about its provenance. In particular, two theories interest me. First, I think there is a very real possibility that this document is a ‘smoking gun but not the smoking gun that so-called 'birthers' are seeking.

'Birthers' claim me as their Godfather, and in a sense I am; but I am not in fact a birther myself. I do not accept many of the theories that they have propounded. I continue to believe Obama was born in Hawai’i, although under suspicious circumstances. That is why Obama does not want the typewritten original document of his birth made public.

“I suspect the KBC may be a forgery that was created by Obama himself, as part of his admissions package to Occidental College. Obama forged the KBC to falsely claim Kenyan birth as part of his ‘affirmative action’ application to Occidental. That is a very real explanation for the KBC. The KBC may also explain why Obama has shrouded his college records in secrecy; he should now release all of them to the public.

“My second theory as to who forged the KBC is more sinister. But based on Mr. Taitz’ provenance, and my contacts with various intelligence agencies, I can see another potential source of the forged KBC.

“Which of these possible explanations, or some other explanation that has yet to be proffered, is the correct one to corroborate the authenticity or forgery (or “both of the KBC remains to be seen.

“Someone forged a birth document concerning the President of the United States. He may have forged it, or someone else may have forged it. The American people have a right to a thorough and impartial investigation of this matter.

“I am releasing [Tuesday] my request to the FBI and AG to open a criminal investigation of his document. It is now apparently a federal court record. Therefore, federal criminal jurisdiction indisputably exists.

“If it turns out that someone forged the KBC to obstruct justice, then that person should be criminally prosecuted. There is no place for forgery or lies on either side of the Obama birth controversy. I have consistently rejected lies as an appropriate response to Barack Obama’s own stream of distortions and fabrications.

“We need a special prosecutor, or independent counsel, who is free of entanglements with the Obama administration.

“I no longer call the national media ‘mainstream media They are 'meathead media’ in my view. Over and over again they have tried to cover up reasonable questions about Obama’s past. My book explored many of these issues up to June, 2008; and I subsequently wrote extensively on Obama's lacunae, as well as appearing on 'Hannity's America' in what became the most controversial TV program of the 2008 election [click on Part two]: www.youtube.com/watch?v=
UKSq2oJ0W1c&feature=related

“Because of my investigations, I have been the subject of political terrorism by Robert Gibbs and Obama’s henchmen. I will also be asking to appear and be sworn as a grand jury witness.

"If there is nothing wrong in all of the Obama documentation, I will be the first one to congratulate him. But if, as appears almost certain, there are forgeries and fraud somewhere, though not necessarily where the ‘birthers’ expect, then Mr. Obama must answer to the collective wrath of the American people.

“My own judgment, and this is only an honest opinion, not a statement of fact, is that Obama probably lied in his college documents, and sought special treatment as a foreign-born student. If that is the case, he had best admit the truth, and fast. The longer Obama allows this ‘birth certificate circus' to fester, the greater the ultimate damage to his administration.

“In closing, I wish to note that I bear Barack Obama no personal animus. I began my inquiries as a legitimate author and Internet columnist. I continue to pursue scholarly evidence such as original documents.

“I am completely committed to searching for the truth and finding the facts about Barack Obama. I am convinced to a moral certainty that, to date, those facts and that truth has not yet seen the light of day.

“Rightly or wrongly, tens of millions of Americans rejected the Republicans and believed the message of ‘change’ that Obama projected. If he betrayed them, a prompt confession, not endless prevarication, is the only honorable resolution.

“Eric Holder represents us; he does not represent Barack Obama. As our national lawyer-in-chief, he owes us an independent criminal investigation of the KBC.

“The meathead media can try to lie to the American people, but collectively there is a growing national consensus that something is rotten in Barack Obama’s past. The sooner Obama tells us the truth, the sooner we can move on Martin will state. “Until then, the doubts and the potential nightmare will persist.
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Someone posted this on The Conservative Monster last night...

I was too busy to post it here, thanks...
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Eric Holder will NOT have the People's best interest in mind.


Interesting, so the Orly BC could be "fake" and "real" at the same time!! Bizzare!! No wonder he doesn't want his college records released.
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Eric Holder will NOT have the People's best interest in mind.


Interesting, so the Orly BC could be "fake" and "real" at the same time!! Bizzare!! No wonder he doesn't want his college records released.
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I could have answered these accusations in just 15 minutes...

Maybe Obama misplaced the documents? LOL ......YEAH
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Forwarded to everyone in my email list. Good find!
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Interesting..see where this leads.....

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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?
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NO....the usual terrorists debunked it, but they do not count.
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Someone posted this on The Conservative Monster last night...

I was too busy to post it here, thanks...
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?


NO....the usual terrorists debunked it, but they do not count.
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Read the whole article... it explains what you're asking
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?
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Not if Obama himself had a hand in creating it so he could cash in on some free, taxpayer funded college under the affirmative action laws- that's the theory the author is putting forth.

Show us the long form bc. Obviously this isn't going away until it is shown. I imagine approval ratings are going to really plummet next time around. This is just so dishonest.

TRANSPARENCY????
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Yes, it has been de-bunked. But the same people who don't know what positive evidence is, and ignores the fact that Obama's status of birth is NOT in question and -- they just make it up as if it is (like me looking in front of me and saying I doubt I'm on a computer even though it is before my face), now they go to one big FARCE of a bc (known to be such) and prompt it up, showing how incredibly brainwashed they are. Since they are absolutely sure, they will believe in a lie.
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?


Not if Obama himself had a hand in creating it so he could cash in on some free, taxpayer funded college under the affirmative action laws- that's the theory the author is putting forth.

Show us the long form bc. Obviously this isn't going away until it is shown. I imagine approval ratings are going to really plummet next time around. This is just so dishonest.

TRANSPARENCY????
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No need to show a long form of BC. He has given VALID LEGAL proof. Those who deny this will deny the whole of the legal system itself, and destroy it, and the rules of evidence. Those who go in this way are seeking to destroy the US.
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?
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shill numero 1 !! lol
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I'm going to post the theory I introduced in the other thread sorry if that makes me a shill but here you go...

There is so much about the Kenyan Birth Certificate that proves it fake. A good fake but a fake after all. Kenya wasn't a Republic, Kenya didn't use Shillings and pence (d) it used Shillings and cents, etc. and all that Orly Taitz has done so far seems to undermine and promote ridicule of those who would question Obama's origins. A soldier boldly refusing his orders who turns out to be a volunteer who doesn't have to go anyway and a birth certificate designed to be mocked on the MSM. The woman is a plant sent to disrupt the movement.

My theory is this, create a fake Kenyan birth certificate good enough that it gets a lot of attention then once it's 'gone viral' point out all the flaws in it live on the MSM. This way when someone manages to dig up the genuine original birth certificate the MSM turns around and say "ah, just another fake" and everyone believes them.
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?


Not if Obama himself had a hand in creating it so he could cash in on some free, taxpayer funded college under the affirmative action laws- that's the theory the author is putting forth.

Show us the long form bc. Obviously this isn't going away until it is shown. I imagine approval ratings are going to really plummet next time around. This is just so dishonest.

TRANSPARENCY????

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No need to show a long form of BC. He has given VALID LEGAL proof. Those who deny this will deny the whole of the legal system itself, and destroy it, and the rules of evidence. Those who go in this way are seeking to destroy the US.
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What valid legal proof? And it's not good enough for many. As President he is answerable to the people and he is ignoring their requests for one simple thing that seems quite innocent. Why didn't he, months ago, say "Sure! Here it is!" and move on w/being President? Why did HE make it a big deal?

And why is he hiding the long form? Can you answer that? It takes 5 minutes to sign a paper to release it yet he is spending millions to keep it hidden. Why?
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I am not a shill so don't ban me, but I did want to mention that Hillary is in Kenya this week and I thought that was quite odd.
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"Internet Powerhouse Andy Martin"

LOL. Internet Nutjob more like. Every word that spews forth from that man's mouth is suspect.
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?


Not if Obama himself had a hand in creating it so he could cash in on some free, taxpayer funded college under the affirmative action laws- that's the theory the author is putting forth.

Show us the long form bc. Obviously this isn't going away until it is shown. I imagine approval ratings are going to really plummet next time around. This is just so dishonest.

TRANSPARENCY????

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No need to show a long form of BC. He has given VALID LEGAL proof. Those who deny this will deny the whole of the legal system itself, and destroy it, and the rules of evidence. Those who go in this way are seeking to destroy the US.



What valid legal proof? And it's not good enough for many. As President he is answerable to the people and he is ignoring their requests for one simple thing that seems quite innocent. Why didn't he, months ago, say "Sure! Here it is!" and move on w/being President? Why did HE make it a big deal?

And why is he hiding the long form? Can you answer that? It takes 5 minutes to sign a paper to release it yet he is spending millions to keep it hidden. Why?
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As has been said many times, COLB is valid legal evidence. It counts. It always does. Once people realize this, discussion can go on.
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i have been trying sit on the fence on this issue and watch both sides, and it seems that all the prez needs to do is be honest. prove that everyone against him is wrong.
op your definitely right about one thing, the longer this issue festers the worse its gonna be on the loosing side.
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<quote>“If it turns out that someone forged the KBC to obstruct justice, then that person should be criminally prosecuted. There is no place for forgery or lies on either side of the Obama birth controversy. I have consistently rejected lies as an appropriate response to Barack Obama’s own stream of distortions and fabrications."</quote>

I'm not a lawyer but I believe the attempts by the DU crowd to spread many copies may in fact be a criminal act. Wouldn't that be funny if they found themselves under scrutiny for that? A little too clever for their own good.
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?


Not if Obama himself had a hand in creating it so he could cash in on some free, taxpayer funded college under the affirmative action laws- that's the theory the author is putting forth.

Show us the long form bc. Obviously this isn't going away until it is shown. I imagine approval ratings are going to really plummet next time around. This is just so dishonest.

TRANSPARENCY????

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No need to show a long form of BC. He has given VALID LEGAL proof. Those who deny this will deny the whole of the legal system itself, and destroy it, and the rules of evidence. Those who go in this way are seeking to destroy the US.



What valid legal proof? And it's not good enough for many. As President he is answerable to the people and he is ignoring their requests for one simple thing that seems quite innocent. Why didn't he, months ago, say "Sure! Here it is!" and move on w/being President? Why did HE make it a big deal?

And why is he hiding the long form? Can you answer that? It takes 5 minutes to sign a paper to release it yet he is spending millions to keep it hidden. Why?



As has been said many times, COLB is valid legal evidence. It counts. It always does. Once people realize this, discussion can go on.
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Yeah, for certain things it counts, however, until recently the Homeland Security in Hawaii DID NOT accept it and required the long form birth certificate. Seriously, it is Mr. Obama who has caused this problem by not releasing the long form. One would think, even if it is not necessary, he would just release the long form, to put this issue to rest once and for all. By not doing so, HE IS ALLOWING this controversy to continue. As the President of the United States, he has a DUTY to the people, and that duty is to unite our country not divide it, especially on something as simple as this.
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shill bans are automated now

post what you want

it's all good

if you can reach the site now odds are you're not a shill ;)
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wasnt the Kenyan BC debunked already?


Not if Obama himself had a hand in creating it so he could cash in on some free, taxpayer funded college under the affirmative action laws- that's the theory the author is putting forth.

Show us the long form bc. Obviously this isn't going away until it is shown. I imagine approval ratings are going to really plummet next time around. This is just so dishonest.

TRANSPARENCY????

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No need to show a long form of BC. He has given VALID LEGAL proof. Those who deny this will deny the whole of the legal system itself, and destroy it, and the rules of evidence. Those who go in this way are seeking to destroy the US.



What valid legal proof? And it's not good enough for many. As President he is answerable to the people and he is ignoring their requests for one simple thing that seems quite innocent. Why didn't he, months ago, say "Sure! Here it is!" and move on w/being President? Why did HE make it a big deal?

And why is he hiding the long form? Can you answer that? It takes 5 minutes to sign a paper to release it yet he is spending millions to keep it hidden. Why?



As has been said many times, COLB is valid legal evidence. It counts. It always does. Once people realize this, discussion can go on.
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COLB would work when there aren't gaping holes in his past as well as family in Kenya claiming he was born there. Inconsistencies should be investigated and the easiest way to clear it up is to see the long form or launch a full scale investigation. That's why it isn't sufficient. It doesn't PROVE anything other than that his grandmother could have mailed in a piece of paper saying he was born there.
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shill bans are automated now

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if you can reach the site now odds are you're not a shill ;)


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