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Claims that "Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate" are a Hoax and my replies to them.

 
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Claims that "Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate" are a Hoax and my replies to them.
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Claims that "Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate" are a Hoax and my replies to them.

First of I'd like to say that my analysis and conclusions do not speak for Dr. Orly Taitz in anyway, she will comment when she has time on her blog at www.OrlyTaitzEsq.com/blog1
I personally have NOT yet seen this document in hand, as Orly and I live hours away from each other, so I cannot attest to it's validity, however it does raise 'reasonable doubt' and 'probable cause' in addition to Obama's Grandmother's sworn statement that she was present at Obama's birth in Kenya, as well as the Kenyan Parliaments statementS that Obama was born there, so definitely there is grounds for more investigation and the courts need to act on this matter.


1. It was dated Feb 14, 1964 and had the designation Republic of Kenya. However that designation was not official until December 1964.

That does not mean that the documents prior to then were not marked Republic as it would be common for a state after recently declaring it’s independence to act independently rather than continue under old rule.

Kenya declared its Independence from Great Britain in 1963 and evidently started to call itself "The Republic of Kenya"...

unless the writer of this newspaper article from 1963 was a prophet and called it "Republic of Kenya" before Kenya came up with that.
Newspaper article from 1963 journalist refers to Kenyan as a Republic.


2. It’s number 44 O 47 is a bit coincidental with 44th President Obama 47th President

The # appears to read 44,047. Look at the "O" in "MOMBASSA" on the same line, it is a different character than the "0".

NOTE: Senator Obama was the Rep. for the zip code 60606, so does that make him a Hoax? or "the Antichrist"?


3. The name EF Lavender. Earth Friendly Lavender is a detergent.

Also the name of a flowering plant. Lavender is also a SURNAME!


4. Mombasa did not become part of Kenya until 1963. It used to be part of Zanzibar

The document was made in 1964, so pointless to mention.


5. The Coast General Hospital is actually called the Coast Provincial General Hospital

People in all countries tend to shorten names of places, this is not proof of anything either way. And~
"These volunteers from Egypt, the Philippines, the United Kingdom, and the United States worked with a Kenyan medical team at Coast General Hospital." www.operationsmile.ie...


6. There are unconfirmed statements that women who would give birth in 1961 would go to the “Lady Grigg Maternity Hospital” which was later rolled into the Coast Provincial General hospital.
nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com...

The operative words being “unconfirmed statements’ aka hearsay…


7. Obama's father (born in 1936) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.

Obama’s Fathers actual birthdate has never been verified, and 25 to 26 seems more accurate.


8. Would a nation with a large number of Muslims actually say "Christian name" (as opposed to name) on the birth certificate?

"The term Christian name is often used as a general synonym for given name".
en.wikipedia.org...
Also, "According to the most recent Kenyan Demographic and Health Survey,1 which presents statistics for a nationally representative sample of women between the ages of 15 and 49 and men between 15 and 54, approximately 88.5% of the population is Christian." And it was even a HIGHER % of Christians (and fewer Muslims) the farther you back to 1963.
pewforum.org...

Obama's father was Muslim and likely Arab as well as being African. Kenya is predominately Christian, but the Coast Province, where Mombasa is at, is majority Muslim.


9. Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.

Mombassa, a coastal trading center, would have better facilities than Nairobi where Obama Sr. probably had little or no ties.


10. The place was called the “Central Nyanza District,” not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.

There were districts, provinces and finally regions. There is a lot written about provinces before 61...after 63 regions also were delineated. Provinces and districts are 2 different things. Provinces in Kenya are made up of many districts. This is more like what County is to a State in USA.

"This is a scanned version of the paper map entitled: Kenya produced in 1964 by the Survey of Kenya. The map represents the boundaries of Kenya as well as provincial boundaries".
From Columbia U:
sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu...


11. Orly (the one that starts the majority of these accusations, with her sidekick keys) is no stranger to releasing fake documents and bluffing her way into the court system. Apart from her bluff over the social sercurity accusation she apparentl has other birth certificates to show for the lawsuit, one of them below:
Known Hoax Kenyan BC

It is wise to follow all leads about the eligibility or INeligibility of BHO. Orly made no claim of either document as genuine, in fact her case is a request for authentication as serious questions exist about BHO’s eligibility, especially since his own Grandmother state she was there in Kenya and present during his birth.


12. Now obviously some may be asking whats the difference then between his Hawaiian short form birth certificate and this new "smoking" Kenyan short form?
Obamas Hawaii short form birth certificate was verified by the Hawaiian state government:
To verify we did indeed have the correct document, we contacted the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records.
"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo said June 13, 2008. www.politifact.com...

That does not answer if it is a Hawaiian registration of a FOREIGN birth or not. Hawaii allowed registration of Foreign births, in facts Obama’s ½ sister Maya Soetoro has a HI COLB but was born in Indonesia.

a) Fukino yesterday issued a statement saying that she and the registrar of vital statistics personally inspected Obama's birth certificate and found it to be valid. www.starbulletin.com...

Valid maybe, but was it a Hawaiian registration of a FOREIGN birth?

b) And then of course there will be the "questioners" who will come our and say "if had just released his long form none of this fuss would be happening". Well:


13. His finished his campaign, his proven sufficiently his eligibility vai the law and he is not obligated to prove anything further. The majority spoke on November 4th. The president isnt constitutionally obligated to satisfy every single individual in americab thats impossible.

With all the voted fraud charges against ACORN, once that is exposed, BHO may be found to have far less votes you think… BHO did NOT at anytime prove eligibility, in fact he had gone to great lengths to seal and hid his records and past prior to the election as well. Votes have NOTHING to do with Eligibility.


14. proving anything will not end the conspiracies being spread about him so get real. In any case his still not obligated to answer to you and your "concerned citizens mob".

BHO sa POTUS works for We The People, we the taxpayers, he is not a King and is not above the Law, and he most certainly is required to prove eligibility and to answer any and all questions regarding such. At least such admission of “mob” shows it is not just a small fringe who question BHO legitimacy or lack thereof.


15. The fonts is from 1995.
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The whole problem with the Obama BC issue is that all he needs as proof of being a natural born citizen is the COLB from Hawaii. The rest of it is moot. He doesn't need to prove anything and it's never going to amount to anything so just move along...
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The whole problem with the Obama BC issue is that all he needs as proof of being a natural born citizen is the COLB from Hawaii. The rest of it is moot. He doesn't need to prove anything and it's never going to amount to anything so just move along...
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Sounds like you need to learn about the constitution. It is the supreme law of the land and it lays out the requirements for being president. If Obama does not meet these requirements then he has to go... DON'T YOU GET IT?!
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Re: Claims that "Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate" are a Hoax and my replies to them.
The whole problem with the Obama BC issue is that all he needs as proof of being a natural born citizen is the COLB from Hawaii. The rest of it is moot. He doesn't need to prove anything and it's never going to amount to anything so just move along...
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Really? Can you provide us with a link that substantiates your statement that "all he needs as proof of being a natural born citizen is the COLB from Hawaii". If you believe he has "proven' all that is necessary and all the rest of this is just "moot", then why won't he just release the long form? Afterall, if it proves what you think it does, then it would put all the "birthers" in their place and we could all just move along. But he won't just do that one little simple thing, will he!
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