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Element 115/ Bob Lazar

 
C.H.A.S.
03/05/2005 06:11 PM
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Element 115/ Bob Lazar
In 1989, Robert Lazar came forward with an incredible story : He had been recruited by the US government to work at the top secret Groom Lake/Area 51 research base better known as "Dreamland" (actually at the S4 site, Papoose Lake which is a few miles to the south of Groom Lake) to reverse engineer alien spacecraft! Here are a few things he learned.




Was this craft built in the Zeta 2 Reticuli solar system?


Description of Exterior : The exterior skin of the disc is metal which is the colour of unpolished stainless steel. The "Sport Model" sits on its belly when itīs not energized and not on tri-pod legs. The entry hatch is located on the upper half of the disc, with just the bottom portion of the door wrapping around the centre lip of the disc.

Description of Interior : The interior of the disc is divided into three levels. The lower level is where the three "gravity amplifiers" and their wave guides are located. The reactor is located directly above the three gravity amplifiers on the centre level and is centered between them. This center level of the disc also houses the control consoles and seats, both of which are too small and too low to the floor to be functional for adult human beings. The walls of the centre level are all divided into archways. At one point in time, when the disc was energized, one of the archways became transparent and you could see the area outside of it just as if the archway was a window.



View a "cutaway diagram" of these two levels!


The discīs reactor uses a fuel which does not occur naturally on Earth. This fuel is a super-heavy, stable, element with an atomic number of 115 and does not appear on our periodic chart. Element 115 has a twofold purpose : First, it is the source of a gravity wave that is unknown to Earthīs scientists, the "Gravity A" wave. Second, it is the source of the anti-matter radiation which is reacted to provide power.

The Gravity A wave eminates from the nucleus of Element 115 and actually extends past the perimeter of the atom. The propulsion system of the disc amplifies and focuses this Gravity A wave to cause space/time to bend, much like space/time bends in the intense gravitational field of a black hole. The ability to direct gravity to cause space/time distortions allows the disc to cross vast expanses of space/time without travelling in a linear mode at a high rate of speed.

Inside the reactor, the Element 115 is transmuted to Element 116 which is unstable and immediately decays releasing antimatter. The antimatter is reacted with gaseous matter which causes a total annihilation reaction, the 100 percent conversion of matter to energy. The heat from this reaction is converted to electrial energy by a solid state, near 100 percent efficient thermoelectric generator. It is this energy that is used to amplify the Gravity A wave.



This mode of travel is one of the two methods of propulsion used by the disc. In this mode, the discīs gravity amplifiers [see right] are in the "delta configuration" and are pulsed sequentially in a rotational pattern. This amplified Gravity A wave is so powerful that the only natural occurring source of gravity that could cause space/time to distort this much would be a black hole!

The other mode of travel is the "omicron configuration" and is used for short range travel near a source of gravity such as a planet or star. When a disc travels near another source of gravity, like Earth, the Gravity A wave, which propagates outward from the disc, is phase shifted into the Gravity B wave, which propagates outward from the Earth, and this creates lift. The gravity amplifiers of the disc can be focused independently and they are pulsed and do not stay on continuously.

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[link to www.mufor.org]

[link to www.gravitywarpdrive.com]
theoretical physicist
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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The problem with Lazarīs story is that the physics of the propulsion system he described for the īsports modelī UFO is totally unconvincing to nuclear or particle physicists like myself. It sounds like it has been made up by someone who does not know the difference between science and scienc-fiction. Element 115 has been created in very small amounts by both the Russians and at Los Alamos. Apart from its high degree of stability compared with atomic nuclei of smaller mass number, there is nothing special about it. The suggestion that, after 90 years of research into Einsteinīs Theory of General Relativity, physicists should know nothing about a so-called īgravity A waveī whose source is Element 115 does not make much sense. The whole point about gravity is that it is independent of the nature of the matter that is its source. It does not matter what the type of atomic nucleus is. Its gravitational field depends only on its mass, not on the relative numbers of protons and neutrons present in the nucleus. I think that, if Lazar is genuine, he never really understood how the UFOīs engines worked and made up these details as a convincing add-on when he disclosed his story. Trouble is, they discredit his story rather than give support to it.
stgeorge
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Not a nuclear physisist but it sounds like bullshit to me.
Simply change matter 115 into 116 and you have energy and propulsion? Ufos were called "flying annodes" from the start.Where do you get nuclear energy from?
stgeorge
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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One man,A Canadian reputedly died from radiation sickness after encountering a landed Ufo,and there have been a few reports about residual radioactivity.
Under the Earth,which is where they are from,it becomes more radioactive,evidenced by the cancelled Moho Project.
The only problem I have is how the Visitors can live in such a radioactive envoirnment.Unless it is not the same everyplace.
"No,it is not."2IC
stgeorge
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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In fact...I believe the highly radioactive Ufos were unmanned.
Anybody?
Anonymous Coward(tm)
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Far simpiler ways to do it, they just told us that so we have to pay for their 115 and taught oil companies how to do the same.
C.H.A.S.
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"In fact...I believe the highly radioactive Ufos were unmanned.
Anybody?"

What do you mean radio active?

Radio active is news to me.

Why would we shoot down ufos then?

Just for the fun of it?

I seriously doubt that we shoot down ufos and fly them by remote control.

Take Roswell for example, people were held at gun point because the government obviously shot down those ufos and I doubt that the government is going to go through all the trouble of shooting down ufos and not want to have a little fun experimenting with what they earned/ found.
C.H.A.S.
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"Far simpiler ways to do it, they just told us that so we have to pay for their 115 and taught oil companies how to do the same."

What are you talking about buddy?

Element 115 is not native to this planet.
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"Far simpiler ways to do it, they just told us that so we have to pay for their 115 and taught oil companies how to do the same."

What are you talking about buddy?

Element 115 is not native to this planet.

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Exactly my point, if itīs not native to this planet then we have to pay these īaliensī for their recipes, or the element itself. Can you say monopoly? They taught the oil companies this strategy and how to supress alternate ways. There is no one answer and plenty of other elements.
C.H.A.S.
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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I guess America is getting a better deal than the Russians.

America has 500lbs of element 115.

Hold on Iīm trying to search an article about how much Russia has but I remember it being a very small #
C.H.A.S.
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Hereīs a debate I found upon the subject you can judge for yourself.


Re: Element 118 (And 116?) Just Spurious Data -

>

>>And of course the Lazar story is a monstrous bold-faced lie from
>>beginning to end. He claims to have carried around pounds of
>>so-called (nonexistent) Element 115, when in fact it would be so
>>highly radioactive it would vaporize his skin, etc. His whole
>>story betrays such incredible imbecilic ignorance of nuclear
>>physics (even numbered elements 114 and 118 are the islands of
>>stability not odd numbers such as 115).

>Hi Brad.

>Although you may be right that Bob Lazarīs story about working
>on ET technology and flying saucers, including his handling of
>Element 115, is a complete lie, your conclusion cannot be
>supported just from the knowledge of physics Lazar has exhibited
>publicly.

>We should not forget that the atoms in a sample consisting of
>only one element (such as a piece of 100% Carbon or 100%
>Uranium) are not all exactly identical to each other with
>respect to the mass of their nucleus. Although the different
>isotopes for a given element will have the same chemical
>properties, some isotopes will be stable (eg. Carbon 12) while
>others will decay or be radioactive (eg. Carbon 14).

>From the patterns observed in plots of the elements (including
>their isotopes) and their stability, nuclear physicists
>predicted that Element 114 would be the first of several stable
>(i.e non- decaying or radioactive) heavier elements. The nucleus
>of this stable isotope of Element 114 was to have 114 protons
>and 184 neutrons.

>Since the recently discovered Element 114 decayed quite rapidly,
>it did NOT prove the non-existence of this predicted "island of
>stability" because the sum of the neutrons in the two lighter
>elements that were fused together to produce Element 114 had
>about 8 to 10 neutrons less than the predicted stable isotope.
>Until this heavier isotope of Element 114 (or better still,
>Lazarīs Element 115) is produced, physicists will not be able to
>say with confidence if Lazar claims are true or false.


>Nick Balaskas


Hi Nick,

Sorry, any nuclear physicist worth his salt can say today with
confidence that Lazarīs claims are utter pseudoscientific
hogwash and donīt need to have element 114īs or 115īs isotope
series produced.

Lazar claims he actually was the one who discovered element 115
in his first few months at Area 51 in 1988, yet to this day he
does not understand enough about nuclear physics to know to
specify the mass number or isotope number, as anyone with even
the tiniest comprehension knows is the critical identification
of a nuclide (ever hear of "uranium 235" or "carbon 14"? those
are the isotope numbers). Fortunately, Lazarīs ignorance of
physics led himself into a trap because he and his sycophants
put together a "physics data table" of made-up alleged data and
they accidentally went too far with their invented numbers,
because they didnīt realize that the product of the density and
molar volume gives you the mass number and it comes out about
424, which is way too high and far above any possible "island of
(relative) stability" around 298. They also made up a fictitious
melting point for their imaginary element 115, supposedly
1,740°C or higher than even iron or aluminum, betraying a total
lack of understanding the Periodic Table of the Elements as 115
would be chemically related to the _low_ melting point soft
metal _bismuth_ so their precious 115 if enough of it could be
made to see and would last long enough would probably be a
liquid at room temperature like mercury or even a gas.

You and Lazar are mistaken in thinking that "nuclear physicists
predicted that Element 114 would be the first of several stable
(i.e non- decaying or radioactive) heavier elements." No one in
their right minds imagines they are going to find
NON-radioactive isotopes of these elements. The American
Institute of Physics explains that physicists are hoping that
element 114īs isotope 298 will be _relatively_ "stable" or
"stable compared to its neighbors in the chart of the nuclides"
-- meaning that it may have "an expected lifetime of years
rather than milliseconds or microseconds." (See:
www.aip.org/enews/physnews/1997/split/pnu344-3.htm)

So far isotopes 287 and 289 of element 114 have been produced by
the Dubna lab in Russia and they turn out to have half lives of
only 5 and 30 _seconds_.

A transuranic element with even a half-life of "years" would
emit such deadly ionizing radiation that it would make
plutonium, one of the most toxic substances known to man due to
its radioactivity (half life 24,000 years for Pu-239), seem like
safe to handle with oneīs bare hands in comparison (an utter
absurdity). Yet Lazar claims he smuggled out of Area 51 a whole
pound or half-kilo of element 115 which would be even more
unstable than 114 because of the uneven number of protons and
the resulting incomplete and unstable nuclear shell
configuration.

It is manifestly clear to me that Lazar heard something about
element 114 from some some popular reading and screwed it up,
got the number wrong, didnīt understand the nuclear physics so
as to know how to correct the number 115 to 114, and then
because of colossal ignorance of comic book nuclear physics
failed to realize that the predicted "stability" of 114 didnīt
mean total "stability" as if it was _non-radioactive_ and never
understood that it would still be extremely radioactive and
deadly, the "stability" being only to a relative degree compared
to surrounding even more volatile elements/isotopes with
half-lives of fractions of a second.

Why do you coddle and defend these notorious frauds and
purveyors of monstrous ignorance who bring such total discredit
to UFO research and to science?


Brad
C.H.A.S.
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"So far isotopes 287 and 289 of element 114 have been produced by the Dubna lab in Russia and they turn out to have half lives of only 5 and 30 _seconds_."


Key sentence above^^^^^ explaining the difference between how much we own and russia owns <----------just my upinion
Dr P
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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What "Brad" says in response to Balaskas is perfectly correct.
C.H.A.S.
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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All I know is that both of them are 2 very well
educated men who know allot about stuff.
Brad sheep Balaskas
Dr P
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06/02/2022 06:52 PM
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Gravity waves and Element 115 has been scientifically proven.
What is next?
C.H.A.S.
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06/02/2022 09:37 PM
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Welp abduct binary star system 39.6 light years away now.





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