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theoretical physicist 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with Lazarīs story is that the physics of the propulsion system he described for the īsports modelī UFO is totally unconvincing to nuclear or particle physicists like myself. It sounds like it has been made up by someone who does not know the difference between science and scienc-fiction. Element 115 has been created in very small amounts by both the Russians and at Los Alamos. Apart from its high degree of stability compared with atomic nuclei of smaller mass number, there is nothing special about it. The suggestion that, after 90 years of research into Einsteinīs Theory of General Relativity, physicists should know nothing about a so-called īgravity A waveī whose source is Element 115 does not make much sense. The whole point about gravity is that it is independent of the nature of the matter that is its source. It does not matter what the type of atomic nucleus is. Its gravitational field depends only on its mass, not on the relative numbers of protons and neutrons present in the nucleus. I think that, if Lazar is genuine, he never really understood how the UFOīs engines worked and made up these details as a convincing add-on when he disclosed his story. Trouble is, they discredit his story rather than give support to it. |
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stgeorge 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Under the Earth,which is where they are from,it becomes more radioactive,evidenced by the cancelled Moho Project. The only problem I have is how the Visitors can live in such a radioactive envoirnment.Unless it is not the same everyplace. "No,it is not."2IC |
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C.H.A.S. 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody?" What do you mean radio active? Radio active is news to me. Why would we shoot down ufos then? Just for the fun of it? I seriously doubt that we shoot down ufos and fly them by remote control. Take Roswell for example, people were held at gun point because the government obviously shot down those ufos and I doubt that the government is going to go through all the trouble of shooting down ufos and not want to have a little fun experimenting with what they earned/ found. |
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Anonymous Coward(tm) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Far simpiler ways to do it, they just told us that so we have to pay for their 115 and taught oil companies how to do the same." What are you talking about buddy? Element 115 is not native to this planet. == Exactly my point, if itīs not native to this planet then we have to pay these īaliensī for their recipes, or the element itself. Can you say monopoly? They taught the oil companies this strategy and how to supress alternate ways. There is no one answer and plenty of other elements. |
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C.H.A.S. 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hereīs a debate I found upon the subject you can judge for yourself. Re: Element 118 (And 116?) Just Spurious Data - > >>And of course the Lazar story is a monstrous bold-faced lie from >>beginning to end. He claims to have carried around pounds of >>so-called (nonexistent) Element 115, when in fact it would be so >>highly radioactive it would vaporize his skin, etc. His whole >>story betrays such incredible imbecilic ignorance of nuclear >>physics (even numbered elements 114 and 118 are the islands of >>stability not odd numbers such as 115). >Hi Brad. >Although you may be right that Bob Lazarīs story about working >on ET technology and flying saucers, including his handling of >Element 115, is a complete lie, your conclusion cannot be >supported just from the knowledge of physics Lazar has exhibited >publicly. >We should not forget that the atoms in a sample consisting of >only one element (such as a piece of 100% Carbon or 100% >Uranium) are not all exactly identical to each other with >respect to the mass of their nucleus. Although the different >isotopes for a given element will have the same chemical >properties, some isotopes will be stable (eg. Carbon 12) while >others will decay or be radioactive (eg. Carbon 14). >From the patterns observed in plots of the elements (including >their isotopes) and their stability, nuclear physicists >predicted that Element 114 would be the first of several stable >(i.e non- decaying or radioactive) heavier elements. The nucleus >of this stable isotope of Element 114 was to have 114 protons >and 184 neutrons. >Since the recently discovered Element 114 decayed quite rapidly, >it did NOT prove the non-existence of this predicted "island of >stability" because the sum of the neutrons in the two lighter >elements that were fused together to produce Element 114 had >about 8 to 10 neutrons less than the predicted stable isotope. >Until this heavier isotope of Element 114 (or better still, >Lazarīs Element 115) is produced, physicists will not be able to >say with confidence if Lazar claims are true or false. >Nick Balaskas Hi Nick, Sorry, any nuclear physicist worth his salt can say today with confidence that Lazarīs claims are utter pseudoscientific hogwash and donīt need to have element 114īs or 115īs isotope series produced. Lazar claims he actually was the one who discovered element 115 in his first few months at Area 51 in 1988, yet to this day he does not understand enough about nuclear physics to know to specify the mass number or isotope number, as anyone with even the tiniest comprehension knows is the critical identification of a nuclide (ever hear of "uranium 235" or "carbon 14"? those are the isotope numbers). Fortunately, Lazarīs ignorance of physics led himself into a trap because he and his sycophants put together a "physics data table" of made-up alleged data and they accidentally went too far with their invented numbers, because they didnīt realize that the product of the density and molar volume gives you the mass number and it comes out about 424, which is way too high and far above any possible "island of (relative) stability" around 298. They also made up a fictitious melting point for their imaginary element 115, supposedly 1,740°C or higher than even iron or aluminum, betraying a total lack of understanding the Periodic Table of the Elements as 115 would be chemically related to the _low_ melting point soft metal _bismuth_ so their precious 115 if enough of it could be made to see and would last long enough would probably be a liquid at room temperature like mercury or even a gas. You and Lazar are mistaken in thinking that "nuclear physicists predicted that Element 114 would be the first of several stable (i.e non- decaying or radioactive) heavier elements." No one in their right minds imagines they are going to find NON-radioactive isotopes of these elements. The American Institute of Physics explains that physicists are hoping that element 114īs isotope 298 will be _relatively_ "stable" or "stable compared to its neighbors in the chart of the nuclides" -- meaning that it may have "an expected lifetime of years rather than milliseconds or microseconds." (See: www.aip.org/enews/physnews/1997/split/pnu344-3.htm) So far isotopes 287 and 289 of element 114 have been produced by the Dubna lab in Russia and they turn out to have half lives of only 5 and 30 _seconds_. A transuranic element with even a half-life of "years" would emit such deadly ionizing radiation that it would make plutonium, one of the most toxic substances known to man due to its radioactivity (half life 24,000 years for Pu-239), seem like safe to handle with oneīs bare hands in comparison (an utter absurdity). Yet Lazar claims he smuggled out of Area 51 a whole pound or half-kilo of element 115 which would be even more unstable than 114 because of the uneven number of protons and the resulting incomplete and unstable nuclear shell configuration. It is manifestly clear to me that Lazar heard something about element 114 from some some popular reading and screwed it up, got the number wrong, didnīt understand the nuclear physics so as to know how to correct the number 115 to 114, and then because of colossal ignorance of comic book nuclear physics failed to realize that the predicted "stability" of 114 didnīt mean total "stability" as if it was _non-radioactive_ and never understood that it would still be extremely radioactive and deadly, the "stability" being only to a relative degree compared to surrounding even more volatile elements/isotopes with half-lives of fractions of a second. Why do you coddle and defend these notorious frauds and purveyors of monstrous ignorance who bring such total discredit to UFO research and to science? Brad |
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