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First, a confession:

Everything I've ever written in these forums has been BS. Well-intended BS perhaps, but BS still. This is because everything I've written so far, has been based on my mental rationalizations, and all mental rationalizations are INHERENTLY FLAWED.

But in this thread, I will give you what little I've got of Absolute Truth. Truth is not based on mental rationalization, it is based on direct spiritual experience. Since I only have received a little such spiritual experience, I can only pass on a little Absolute Truth. I will tell you what I have to tell you, and then I will have nothing further to add.

(This is in sharp contrast to when I speak from my mental rationalizations. I can talk forever then!)

In this thread, I will do my utmost to share my experiences exactly as I received them. I will not add to the Truth, nor subtract from it. If I absolutely have to add my interpretation somewhere, I will warn you that what follows is just my interpretation. If anyone wishes to interpret differently, I will not argue with you. My mental rationalizations are as flawed as yours.

The following spiritual experiences are 24 carat gold to me. Unfortunately, since they are MY experiences, and only passed on to you via words, they will only be 18 carat gold to you. Nothing can replace direct spiritual experience, and I hope you'll have some spiritual experiences of your own eventually, if that isn't the case yet. But perhaps telling you about mine can aid you in finding the direction.

What you will hear is both some very Good and some very Bad News. Some of my spiritual experiences have been very Light. Some have been very Dark. Some of you might wish that Spiritual Truth should be all about Light and Love, but Absolute Truth is what it is, and I will not censor it for you.

As is customary, I will begin with the Good News!

Watch this spot...
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can u provide me with any piece of the truth if
not I understand.

when will I B free you know who I'am

Who is responsible for this surveillance ,& broadcasting
this show over the Internet?
Is it the Government ,or Hollywood or both?
why have they chosen me?
How can they legally do this to me?
I have committed no crimes to justify this,
or signed any contracts,
or agreed to any of this.
What date did this show start?
when will it end?
What is the shows site name?
If I could watch my own show,I could figure out ways,
to evade their surveillance,& find a little piece of freedom.
Any piece of the truth, Will bring me that much closer
to being free. Thanks "The One"
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ummmmm WHAT?
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Your real, but your words are non existent in life anyway, so why bother posting?
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Where to begin? A little prologue seems to be called for, to provide the setting.

A number of years ago, I was an Atheist. I did not believe in anything not perceivable by the human senses. But I wasn't entirely satisfied with being an Atheist. I slowly gravitated towards reading about spiritual things, even though my mind couldn't make sense of any of it.

An important key to me, was reading about near-death and out-of-body experiences. Even though I didn't believe in anything they were talking about, I could SENSE they were actually telling the Truth, as they knew it. They were telling what sounded like obvious BS to my mind, but this BS was also the Truth. Somehow I knew it.

This did not compute, so I set out to get one of them out-of-body experience of my own. I read up on various 'techniques', and laid down on my bed, exerting a lot of mental energy trying to tear myself free from my own body by willpower alone. After a few weeks of this, I could really feel there WAS a difference between myself and my body, but I still couldn't make anything happen.

But one day, something DID happen. I had exerted myself completely mentally, and somehow found a 'letting go'-attitude instead. I think I stumbled on the difference between willing something mentally, and willing something in Spirit.



(Absolute Truth begins here.)

A spiritual Force outside of my own grabbed hold of me, and swiftly and effortlessly began separating me from my body.

I was struck by sheer Terror! I had never even considered the existence of such a Spiritual Force, and being completely overwhelmed by its Power scared the bejeezus out of me!

But the Force immediately reacted to my Fear, and gently let go. I was firmly back in my body, safe and sound.

I pondered what had just happened a few minutes, and cursed myself for my lack of courage. I had wanted to know what it feels like to be out-of-body really bad, and a benevolent Force had tried to help me, but then I chickened out!

At this point I must explain that I KNEW this Force was benevolent. I could Feel it in Spirit all along. My Terror just came from the Chock of unexpectedly learning of its existence.

I closed my eyes again, and pushed all fear aside. I told the Force I wanted this experience after all.

The Force immediately returned and pulled me entirely out of my body.

It's very difficult to describe the feeling in words, but I'll try.

First, tension, as my body and I was being separated. If you imagine actually feeling a magnetic field, this is what it felt like. I was 'magnetized', and magnetically repelled out of the body.

Then, direct spiritual awareness of the matter in my body. This was very brief, because I left it really fast. But I could FEEL the body as I slipped out of it. Specifically, I felt the shape of the air cavity in my mouth, throat and lungs. It was as if I was pulled out that way.

This feeling of shape was as if I possessed a previously unknown sense. I didn't 'see' it with my physical eyes, I '3D-shape-felt' it directly with my Spirit.

And now I was ME!

No human words can describe the sheer Bliss I felt. I was free of my body, and experienced nothing but my Self. There were no sights and sounds, no evidence of an outside world at all, there was only ME.

And I was Magnificent!

I was a God!

I was filled to the brim with Virile Power and Blissful Humor.

The most amazing and surprising thing to me was how uncompromisingly MALE I was.

Many people say a Soul has no sex. I can't speak about theirs, but mine certainly had one. I was a True Man in spirit, there was no doubt about it. I felt like I was built like Schwartzenegger, so to speak. I was BIG AS A FRIGGIN MOUNTAIN, bursting at the seams with overflowing masculine spiritual Power!

I could still sense the presence of my body though, the connection wasn't fully severed. It felt like it was floating far far far below me. It felt small and insignificant like an ant. No, like the abandoned shell of a dead ant. I had absolutely no feelings for it, othere than amazement at the fact I had been able to squeeze myself into something so small. It seemed impossible.

I was also immensely amused by the fact I, a powerful God, big as a mountain, had had so much problem keeping the sexual responses of that body under control when I was in it. There was no feeling of shame about it, just a roaring laughter at the absurdity of it all.

I had no intention of ever returning to the body. I was fully content just sitting there, being ME. I could have remained there for an eternity.

But the session was over. I had asked for a spiritual experience, and I had received it. I was reinserted in my body by the same irresistible Force that had taken me out of it. A powerful God I might be, but this was an even more powerful God. There was nothing I could do to stay out of my body. My Power was nothing compared to this Power. I did not even try to resist it, I just accepted whatever it was going to do with me, in complete Trust.

I was back in my body. My body was cold, heavy, stiff and uncomfortable. I had no joy returning to it. After lying there for a few minutes, in vain trying to force a repeat of the experience, I went up and had a pee.

For a few more minutes, I still felt like Schwartzenegger.
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Don't think your God....the one that freed you is God.

The way, the truth and the life.
Understand him now?
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Where to begin? A little prologue seems to be called for, to provide the setting.

A number of years ago, I was an Atheist. I did not believe in anything not perceivable by the human senses. But I wasn't entirely satisfied with being an Atheist. I slowly gravitated towards reading about spiritual things, even though my mind couldn't make sense of any of it.

An important key to me, was reading about near-death and out-of-body experiences. Even though I didn't believe in anything they were talking about, I could SENSE they were actually telling the Truth, as they knew it. They were telling what sounded like obvious BS to my mind, but this BS was also the Truth. Somehow I knew it.

This did not compute, so I set out to get one of them out-of-body experience of my own. I read up on various 'techniques', and laid down on my bed, exerting a lot of mental energy trying to tear myself free from my own body by willpower alone. After a few weeks of this, I could really feel there WAS a difference between myself and my body, but I still couldn't make anything happen.

But one day, something DID happen. I had exerted myself completely mentally, and somehow found a 'letting go'-attitude instead. I think I stumbled on the difference between willing something mentally, and willing something in Spirit.



(Absolute Truth begins here.)

A spiritual Force outside of my own grabbed hold of me, and swiftly and effortlessly began separating me from my body.

I was struck by sheer Terror! I had never even considered the existence of such a Spiritual Force, and being completely overwhelmed by its Power scared the bejeezus out of me!

But the Force immediately reacted to my Fear, and gently let go. I was firmly back in my body, safe and sound.

I pondered what had just happened a few minutes, and cursed myself for my lack of courage. I had wanted to know what it feels like to be out-of-body really bad, and a benevolent Force had tried to help me, but then I chickened out!

At this point I must explain that I KNEW this Force was benevolent. I could Feel it in Spirit all along. My Terror just came from the Chock of unexpectedly learning of its existence.

I closed my eyes again, and pushed all fear aside. I told the Force I wanted this experience after all.

The Force immediately returned and pulled me entirely out of my body.

It's very difficult to describe the feeling in words, but I'll try.

First, tension, as my body and I was being separated. If you imagine actually feeling a magnetic field, this is what it felt like. I was 'magnetized', and magnetically repelled out of the body.

Then, direct spiritual awareness of the matter in my body. This was very brief, because I left it really fast. But I could FEEL the body as I slipped out of it. Specifically, I felt the shape of the air cavity in my mouth, throat and lungs. It was as if I was pulled out that way.

This feeling of shape was as if I possessed a previously unknown sense. I didn't 'see' it with my physical eyes, I '3D-shape-felt' it directly with my Spirit.

And now I was ME!

No human words can describe the sheer Bliss I felt. I was free of my body, and experienced nothing but my Self. There were no sights and sounds, no evidence of an outside world at all, there was only ME.

And I was Magnificent!

I was a God!

I was filled to the brim with Virile Power and Blissful Humor.

The most amazing and surprising thing to me was how uncompromisingly MALE I was.

Many people say a Soul has no sex. I can't speak about theirs, but mine certainly had one. I was a True Man in spirit, there was no doubt about it. I felt like I was built like Schwartzenegger, so to speak. I was BIG AS A FRIGGIN MOUNTAIN, bursting at the seams with overflowing masculine spiritual Power!

I could still sense the presence of my body though, the connection wasn't fully severed. It felt like it was floating far far far below me. It felt small and insignificant like an ant. No, like the abandoned shell of a dead ant. I had absolutely no feelings for it, othere than amazement at the fact I had been able to squeeze myself into something so small. It seemed impossible.

I was also immensely amused by the fact I, a powerful God, big as a mountain, had had so much problem keeping the sexual responses of that body under control when I was in it. There was no feeling of shame about it, just a roaring laughter at the absurdity of it all.

I had no intention of ever returning to the body. I was fully content just sitting there, being ME. I could have remained there for an eternity.

But the session was over. I had asked for a spiritual experience, and I had received it. I was reinserted in my body by the same irresistible Force that had taken me out of it. A powerful God I might be, but this was an even more powerful God. There was nothing I could do to stay out of my body. My Power was nothing compared to this Power. I did not even try to resist it, I just accepted whatever it was going to do with me, in complete Trust.

I was back in my body. My body was cold, heavy, stiff and uncomfortable. I had no joy returning to it. After lying there for a few minutes, in vain trying to force a repeat of the experience, I went up and had a pee.

For a few more minutes, I still felt like Schwartzenegger.
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Wow, awesome OP.
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Don't think your God....the one that freed you is God.

The way, the truth and the life.
Understand him now?
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I called this Powerful Force "a" God. Not "the" God. There may be a difference, I honestly don't know. I just know there exists spirits far more powerful than myself.

This one was benevolent. Not all of them are. I'll get back to that horrifying fact later...

But the next experience I share is also a positive one. I'll type it up for you later today, but now I have laundry and other worldly stuff to take care of.

Watch this spot...
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So you were possessed by a malevolent spirit?

You say it is benevolent, perhaps to you, but you have to understand that this sounds very much like demon possession.
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Just popping by to see if there's a response while the laundry machine is doing its thing...

So you were possessed by a malevolent spirit?

You say it is benevolent, perhaps to you, but you have to understand that this sounds very much like demon possession.
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Demonic possession is certainly a handy interpretation, and the one most Christians will probably make right off the bat, I'm sure.

But the thing is, when you experience things in Spirit, you experience Truth directly. You don't BELIEVE stuff, you KNOW stuff, because you're involved directly on the deepest level of your being, not indirectly via the sensory apparatus of your body.

When you see a table, you believe there is a table. But you never know. It could be a Hologram. Someone could have hooked you up to the Matrix, sending nerve impulses to your brain, telling you there is a table. You just don't know. You just have to act on the belief there really is a table, because that is all you got.

But when you FEEL a table with your Spirit, you KNOW there is a table! It is not an illusion, it is a table. Things don't get any more REAL than they are in Spirit. Spirit KNOWS stuff. Noone will ever question Spirit, once they experienced something with it.

So when I say this Powerful Spirit/Force was benevolent, I mean I FELT its benevolence directly with my Spirit. It was not merely a mental rationalization. It's hard to get the distinction across to those wo have not experienced something similar on their own. But there you are.

But I certainly don't want to disappoint you:

There WILL be Demonic Possession in this story! I did something incredibly foolish, and bad stuff followed. If you keep on reading, you'll get all the demonic possession anyone could ask for. You'll also see how I got out of that mess (I most likely wouldn't be here telling you about it otherwise).

If you are a Christian, there's probably noting I can say to make you think my benevelontt Spirit encounters weren't really demons. But I can actually promise you'll be pleasantly surprised about what I have to say about how to defeat demons later on. Please have patience with my story.

But the Good News must always be told first. Then the Bad News, and finally the Best News. That's just the best way to tell a story!

Since I'm already typing, I'll get right to it.

Back in an hour or so.
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I have a recurring setting in my dreams; My True Home.

This is pictured as the most magnificent Mansion or Palace you could imagine. The place is HUGE, with many rooms, each more splendid than the rest. And I know every stone in this building, because it's all MINE! I usually find myself in this place unexpectedly in the dreams, I sort of stumble onto it, and in a pleasant surprise realize I've always owned it; It's my Eternal Home.

Now, these dreams are just dreams, even if they are far more powerful than ordinary dreams. The house is just a Symbol of my true Home, and the many details I see in this dream are just a way to convey the magnificence of my Spiritual Home to may earthly mind. None of what I see in the dreams is Real, in a literal sense.

But the dreams are still powerful. Whenever I visit my Home in a dream, I always wake up with a tremendous sense of loss and sadness at having to wake up to the dump that is my day home. Not that it would matter if my day home were really the most splendid palace on earth, it would still be a dump, compared to my True Spiritual Home!

Now, one time I 'woke up' without waking up, so to speak.

After visiting my Home, the dream suddenly became "lucid". The POWER of the dream multiplied a millionfold. It simply wasn't a dream anymore, everything was ABSOLUTELY REAL. I was fully aware and in Spirit, meaning I was a lot more aware than I ever am in my normal day-to-day existence.

Instead of 'waking up' to the normal earthly plane of existence, I had woken up to the Real World!

This is what I saw:


(Absolute Truth begins here.)

I was flying over the landscape of the Earth, and it was breathtakingly beautiful. This was the same Earth we're all so familiar with, but I saw it through different eyes; I saw it in Spirit. Everything about this world was just Perfection. If someone were to make a visualization of this vision, they'd better to do a darn good job on the lighting, because the light was Magical, full of Life!

And I saw with my Spirit, not with my physical eyes.

Physical eyes have imperfections: They get blinded by strong light, they have a limited field-of-view, and they are only sharp in a small spot right in front of where you point them.

NONE of these imperfections plagued my Spirit Eyes!

I could literally see 360 degrees around me, with full sharpness everywhere at the same time. I flew over a lake, and saw the light from the sun glitter in the water. Once again, it was breathtaking, I could see every glitter in the entire lake all at once, not just the small part right in front of me, as one would do with physical eyes. And I wasn't the leadst blinded by the strong light either, it was all just an uncomprehensible marvel of Beauty to behold!

I'm truly at a loss for words here. There just aren't any words invented to describe such beauty!

After admiring the sun glittering in the lake, I noticed Light was emanating from everything. This wasn't just reflected Light, it was the Light inherent in matter itself. I flew towards a Tree on the far side of the lake. It shone like a beacon in this landscape, where everything was made up from Light.

I was drawn closer, and actually flew right into the Tree, before I even had a chance to tell myself that wouldn't be possible. But the Tree wasn't a physical hindrance to me, I could just slip into it.

Every Living Cell in the Tree emitted Light, the same Magical Living Light that the entire world emitted.

Words really don't suffice here. But I remember thinking "this tree is like a Cathedral of Light on the inside". No matter how hard I try, I can't find a better description, so I'll just leave it at that:

Every Tree is a Cathedral of Light.

And then I "woke up" to the cesspit of experience we call "reality". Never have I been so saddened by the dump I live in!


Next time, we get to the fun part: demons!

But that will probably have to wait for tomorrow.
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laugh

Give it up dude, people won't fall for your fake 'truth'.
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ZETA....ZETA....ZETA
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laugh

Give it up dude, people won't fall for your fake 'truth'.
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Funny thing is, since I don't speak from my Ego here, comments such as this doesn't sting in the least. How can you hurt my Ego, when my Ego was never involved in the first place?

I really don't care if anyone "falls for" what I'm telling you or not. The only reason I'm writing this story here at GLP, is because I've felt the urge to share what I've been given for some time, and I though it was time to act on that urge.

If someone out there needs to read it, they'll feel the urge to come here and find it, through the magic known as "synchronicity".

It happens all the time.

I do not expect or yearn for positive feedback here. I just do what I feel I should do. The rest I leave up to the Universe.
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ZETA....ZETA....ZETA
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Well, hello to you too, little friend! abduct
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Where to begin? A little prologue seems to be called for, to provide the setting.

A number of years ago, I was an Atheist. I did not believe in anything not perceivable by the human senses. But I wasn't entirely satisfied with being an Atheist. I slowly gravitated towards reading about spiritual things, even though my mind couldn't make sense of any of it.

An important key to me, was reading about near-death and out-of-body experiences. Even though I didn't believe in anything they were talking about, I could SENSE they were actually telling the Truth, as they knew it. They were telling what sounded like obvious BS to my mind, but this BS was also the Truth. Somehow I knew it.

This did not compute, so I set out to get one of them out-of-body experience of my own. I read up on various 'techniques', and laid down on my bed, exerting a lot of mental energy trying to tear myself free from my own body by willpower alone. After a few weeks of this, I could really feel there WAS a difference between myself and my body, but I still couldn't make anything happen.

But one day, something DID happen. I had exerted myself completely mentally, and somehow found a 'letting go'-attitude instead. I think I stumbled on the difference between willing something mentally, and willing something in Spirit.



(Absolute Truth begins here.)

A spiritual Force outside of my own grabbed hold of me, and swiftly and effortlessly began separating me from my body.

I was struck by sheer Terror! I had never even considered the existence of such a Spiritual Force, and being completely overwhelmed by its Power scared the bejeezus out of me!

But the Force immediately reacted to my Fear, and gently let go. I was firmly back in my body, safe and sound.

I pondered what had just happened a few minutes, and cursed myself for my lack of courage. I had wanted to know what it feels like to be out-of-body really bad, and a benevolent Force had tried to help me, but then I chickened out!

At this point I must explain that I KNEW this Force was benevolent. I could Feel it in Spirit all along. My Terror just came from the Chock of unexpectedly learning of its existence.

I closed my eyes again, and pushed all fear aside. I told the Force I wanted this experience after all.

The Force immediately returned and pulled me entirely out of my body.

It's very difficult to describe the feeling in words, but I'll try.

First, tension, as my body and I was being separated. If you imagine actually feeling a magnetic field, this is what it felt like. I was 'magnetized', and magnetically repelled out of the body.

Then, direct spiritual awareness of the matter in my body. This was very brief, because I left it really fast. But I could FEEL the body as I slipped out of it. Specifically, I felt the shape of the air cavity in my mouth, throat and lungs. It was as if I was pulled out that way.

This feeling of shape was as if I possessed a previously unknown sense. I didn't 'see' it with my physical eyes, I '3D-shape-felt' it directly with my Spirit.

And now I was ME!

No human words can describe the sheer Bliss I felt. I was free of my body, and experienced nothing but my Self. There were no sights and sounds, no evidence of an outside world at all, there was only ME.

And I was Magnificent!

I was a God!

I was filled to the brim with Virile Power and Blissful Humor.

The most amazing and surprising thing to me was how uncompromisingly MALE I was.

Many people say a Soul has no sex. I can't speak about theirs, but mine certainly had one. I was a True Man in spirit, there was no doubt about it. I felt like I was built like Schwartzenegger, so to speak. I was BIG AS A FRIGGIN MOUNTAIN, bursting at the seams with overflowing masculine spiritual Power!

I could still sense the presence of my body though, the connection wasn't fully severed. It felt like it was floating far far far below me. It felt small and insignificant like an ant. No, like the abandoned shell of a dead ant. I had absolutely no feelings for it, othere than amazement at the fact I had been able to squeeze myself into something so small. It seemed impossible.

I was also immensely amused by the fact I, a powerful God, big as a mountain, had had so much problem keeping the sexual responses of that body under control when I was in it. There was no feeling of shame about it, just a roaring laughter at the absurdity of it all.

I had no intention of ever returning to the body. I was fully content just sitting there, being ME. I could have remained there for an eternity.

But the session was over. I had asked for a spiritual experience, and I had received it. I was reinserted in my body by the same irresistible Force that had taken me out of it. A powerful God I might be, but this was an even more powerful God. There was nothing I could do to stay out of my body. My Power was nothing compared to this Power. I did not even try to resist it, I just accepted whatever it was going to do with me, in complete Trust.

I was back in my body. My body was cold, heavy, stiff and uncomfortable. I had no joy returning to it. After lying there for a few minutes, in vain trying to force a repeat of the experience, I went up and had a pee.

For a few more minutes, I still felt like Schwartzenegger.
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Yeah, this is what happens when a person encounters a demonic spirit full of falsehoods and lying wonders. All physical and mental experience, all in the soul, nothing in the spirit, your just deceived by a higher entity that gave you what you wanted...an experience. This is not absolute truth, it is a lie from a deceiving spirit.
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Yeah, this is what happens when a person encounters a demonic spirit full of falsehoods and lying wonders. All physical and mental experience, all in the soul, nothing in the spirit, your just deceived by a higher entity that gave you what you wanted...an experience. This is not absolute truth, it is a lie from a deceiving spirit.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/whiterider 755352


I tend to use the terms "Spirit" and "Soul" somewhat interchangeably. There's probably a difference, but since I don't know what it is, that's the best I can do.

You answer like any Christian would.

And you DO have a couple of points, there's no doubt about that!

After all, having a few Light and Wonderful spiritual experiences DID eventually lead to demons rearing their ugly faces. It did lead into serious spiritual trouble. I can certainly see the age-old wisdom in forbidding all "dabbling in the occult". It's a dangerous world out there, and if you stay out of it, you'll be safer than if you stumble into it like a fool!

But there are at least TWO possible interpretations here.

The first is, even my good spiritual experiences were demonic. I was just deceived into believing them to be good. As all good Christians, you stick to that one.

The second interpretation is more complex.

In my belief, people who begin "dabbling in the occult" are involving themselves with things they do not yet understand. There is real spiritual growth to be had there, but this growth attracts negative entities. In short, as soon as you begin growing in Light and Power, you'll attract unwanted attention.

Demons find you, as bugs find a shining Light.

Sure, playing it safe by avoiding growth altogether will keep you out of harms way, mostly, but is that really the ultimate choice?

I think not.

The other point Christians in general have, is that you need proper PROTECTION to be able to move freely and safely in the Spirit world. Many Christians call this the "armor of Christ". The idea is, if you have the FULL "armor of Christ" on, you'll be protected. But if you don the chestplate, while you forgot to put your helmet on, you'll still be whacked in the head.

This is entirely correct!

To have the "armor", is an euphemism to being sufficiently purified. I was not PURE when I first sought spiritual experiences. As a result, I wasn't fully protected.

This is where the Christian view is entirely appropriate; if you haven't bothered purifying yourself, stay the hell out of the Spirit world! It's not a safe place for you!

But even in my impurity, I was still somewhat protected. It took some dedicated idiocy on my part to REALLY put me in mortal danger.

More on that to follow...
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Ah, this is why I come to GLP; there are nuggets of brilliance here from time to time.
Tell us more, OP!
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laugh

Give it up dude, people won't fall for your fake 'truth'.


Funny thing is, since I don't speak from my Ego here, comments such as this doesn't sting in the least. How can you hurt my Ego, when my Ego was never involved in the first place?

I really don't care if anyone "falls for" what I'm telling you or not. The only reason I'm writing this story here at GLP, is because I've felt the urge to share what I've been given for some time, and I though it was time to act on that urge.

If someone out there needs to read it, they'll feel the urge to come here and find it, through the magic known as "synchronicity".

It happens all the time.

I do not expect or yearn for positive feedback here. I just do what I feel I should do. The rest I leave up to the Universe.
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I like you, OP.
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We are in God, of God, part of God, Thought of God, BUT not the God, Yes, a little god force of lfe we are indeed.


quote:

I AM



I have expressed these words of God prior to now and I shall express them again and again until Man has understanding through knowing.



I am the One Whole, the ALL. Glorify Me, the One Whom I AM, for I am ALL, and no other IS. I, the sexless One, am Unity. What I am you are, for you are Me; you are the Whole--with Me. So, glorify your Self for in so doing you are glorifying Me. But debase Self; you debase Me in your own perception--for you cannot debase Me; only Self. Because we are One, however, you drag Me into the places of your hidden pretenses.



I, the One Whole, am KNOWING Mind. I exist to think. All thinking is Light of My KNOWING but My thinking IS NOT ME. I AM CREATOR, CREATING WITH MY THINKING.



Out of My Light of KNOWING are My two lights of thinking birthed as sexed pairs of opposites for repetition as sexed pairs of opposites--this is WHY wholeness cannot be brought forth from two "likes"--there must be the pairing of the opposites.



To think is to create. I create with Light. Nothing is which is not Light. I think IDEA. Light registereth MY IDEA in the two sexed lights of My thinking, and form is born in the image of My thinking.



Form has no existence, nor have My imaginings. These exist not, for they are not Me, they are only of Me. I alone exist; I, the All--I AM!



I create my imaged body with the in-breathing of My pulsing universe of Me. My universe is My image; but MY image is NOT Me but only OF Me. All things are My image, but they are NOT ME, even though I am in them and they in Me--they are OF me. So be it.



[link to abundanthope.net]



phoenix journals WORD OF GOD TODAY


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THis is called the " I AM THAT I AM"

Good post op.


Everybody should be as HE IS.
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sounds very much like an experiance i have had. Either you have researched this and your a good liar or this is truth.
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sounds very much like an experiance i have had. Either you have researched this and your a good liar or this is truth.
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If you have time please tell us about your experience. Probably best to start another thread - and link to it here - rather than hijack this one. I'd love to read your story!
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sounds very much like an experiance i have had. Either you have researched this and your a good liar or this is truth.

If you have time please tell us about your experience. Probably best to start another thread - and link to it here - rather than hijack this one. I'd love to read your story!
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Thanks for the concern, but if anyone has something similar to share, please do "hijack" this thread! I for one am very interested in hearing about it!

My story continues tomorrow. I'm too tired to do it justice today.
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Everything you've stated I have experienced almost exactly.

At some point the uselessness of the ego on this plane pushes you away from those bound to it. Other egos beckon yours in an inside joke kinda way...

when you've already shed it (terrifying plunge for most!), relating to others becomes 'silly' (?).

Nothing will ever take these experiences away from you... you have passed a threshold that has become apart of your Self's experience and won't be as easily forgotten.

Now to use your new eyes to see the boundless potential (even in your form - flesh). I completely understand the misery of limitation of comming 'back to senses'. This is where the body/temple thing comes into play.

You can help shape the shared paradigm of this collective experience. Your form is a tool. Defy its (known) use and show others what we have always been able to do...

ANYTHING WE CHOOSE

Think of the master that is so reveared by his healing powers, prophecies... helping the world.

There are armies of these masters holding balance constantly. They are there... meditating... reaching realms no longer for personal advancement, but for the collective's benefit... secretly 'waking' others from within. (sounds like the matrix)...

Don't let the personal gain turn sour... don't let this world's plight be less meaningful... or you may choose not to return at some point to the dissapointment of those of us that have stayed to help those that have forgotten the 'Big Picture'.

Your journey is just beggining. It does not get easier. It gets stranger.

I was an athiest long ago. Looking back, this would have never changed had I not 'let go' of my ego at the right time(s).

The world needs a swift kick in the ass to even begin to comprehend.

My focus (along with a few others) recently has been to dig illuminate the ticks of corruption. This world has many 'dark spots' within it. Bringing light as a sympathetic means to allow others to find there glow again is extremely important.

Start with the darkest ones... They are illusive amidst the light that shows itself unebashedly.

Beware... there is a mimic glow that uses a natural haunted 'beauty' that can be mistaken for one with light... these decieve and want to suk you dry.

You will find (etherically, lucidly) that there are worlds which NEVER deviate in there proxemity to ours. The ancestors knew how to access these... others are taken there against there wills... other wander there. The beings there are real... some true to themselves, some true to a mis-guided purpose... some just plain weird (you won't don't 'get them')... you will find these places soon, no doubt.

You won't be 'Creating' them within your mind. They have always been there and the paths are beaten.

To prepare yourself (since it appears you are opened up and suseptable to pit-falls)... explore the connection with these phenomena... leave ALL of your preconceived notions and icons behind when you see beings like these... know that you are not the first... pick a word for them, they are all out/in there:

Fairies/Pixies - (middle ages - and back - to present)
Spirit 'folk' - (way back - shamans/curenderos/brujos)
Elves - (middle ages - and back - to present)
Machine 'elves' - (DMT - OBE/NDE/astral - abducties)
Greys 'little people' - (DMT - OBE/NDE/astral - abducties)
Insect folk - (DMT - OBE/NDE/astral - abducties)

These things above, that you probably have little interest in to begin with (I didn't).. EXIST. Been called diff things over many aeons. You will probably see many other beings that are just as 'weird'/funny/terrifying before you see the little ones, but when you do... know that they want something from you. Be careful there.

Sounds crazy to others reading this post... I think you know that I'm being earnest.

NDE/OBE/TRANCE/MEDITATION/LUCIDITY/ASTRAL PROJECTION/SLEEP PARALASYS/ABDUCTIONS/SHAMANIC PRACTICES/DMT

When you can see that these things above are all linked... you may see the broader picture BEFORE your emersed in them.

A rose by any other name would be just as freaky... but true!

I laughed at many of those subjects for years... many turned me (and my logic) away... If I could go back... I would form an opinion on the 'other' life out/in there to be more prepared.

Worlds within worlds we never see until we're free. Bring what you find back if it's 'GOOD'... leave it otherwise.

For all that is 'GOOD' in this life that you will find ANYWHERE... originates from the SOURCE(GOD)... and nowhere else!

(btw - it becomes harder to be deceived if you stay true throughout)!

Peace!

(look forward to hearing more from your growth!!)
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Thanks OP, very good story. You really cant make this stuff up!

Although I haven't been fortunate enough to have an experience like this, I know we all have our own path and maybe my experience will come one day.

God Bless!

hf
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Ah, this is why I come to GLP; there are nuggets of brilliance here from time to time.
Tell us more, OP!
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Yea, me too
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put me down as waiting for the ops return.

And thank you for sharing.
I know enough to know that I know nothing
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