Seth: The Greatest Spiritual Teacher of our Time -

Seth was my first spiritual teacher, as well, and the books came to me by "accident". They were given to a friend of mine who was not really interested, and he let me borrow them (Seth Speaks) and (The Seth Material). Later, he let me keep them, and never wanted them back. His loss. Seth confirmed for me what I already "knew" when I was born. I read Jonathan Livingston Seagull over and over again before this, as this was the first book I had ever found that said I was unlimited. Even though it was listed as "fiction" I felt it was true. That book got me through some very trying times.

Seth was something else. Seth opened up a whole new world for me, and led me to yet other teachers.

I am reading more Seth books recently after reading some years ago. There is so much information that Seth gave us through Jane Roberts and her husband Rob. I can learn from it forever.
Have you read what Seth has said about ufos, Michael?

Yes i did, :-)

Seth: The strange thing about your flying saucers is not that they appear, but that you can see them. As science advances on various planes the inhabitants learn to travel between planes occasionally, while carrying with them the [camouflage] manifestations of their home stations...

"I am quite sure--I know for a fact--that beings from other planes have appeared among you, sometimes on purpose and sometimes completely by accident. As in some cases humans have quite accidentally blundered through the apparent curtain between your present and your past, so have beings blundered into the apparent division between one plane and another. Usually when they have done so they were invisible on your plane, as the few of you who fell into the past, or the apparent past, were invisible to the people of the past.

"This sort of experience involves a sudden psychic awareness, straight from the entity, that all boundaries are for practical purposes only. However, there are indeed many kinds of science. There are a number of sciences dealing just with locomotion. Had the human species gone into certain mental disciplines as thoroughly as it has explored technological disciplines, its practical transportation system would be vastly different, and yet by this time even more practical than it is now. (With amusement:) I am making this point because I want it made plain--this, dear Joseph, is a pun--that when I speak of science on another plane I may not speak of the plain old science that you know.

"Now back to the point. When sciences progress on various planes, then visitations become less accidental and more planned. Once the inhabitants of a plane have learned mental--science pat--terms, then they are to a great degree freed from the more regular camouflage [physical] patterns. This applies to “higher” planes than mine, generally speaking, although mine is further along in these sciences than your own.

"[Many of] the flying saucer appearances come from [such] a plane, [one] that is much more advanced in technological sciences than earth at this time. However, this is still not a mental-science plane. Therefore the camouflage paraphernalia appears, more or less visible, to your own astonishment. Now, so strong is this tendency for vitality to change from one apparent form to another, that what you have here in your flying object is something that is actually, as you view it, not of your plane or of [whatever] plane of its origin... The atoms and molecules that structurally compose the UFO, and which are themselves formed by vitality, are more or less aligned according to the pattern of its own territory. Now as the craft enters your plane a distortion occurs. Its actual structure is caught in a dilemma of form... between transforming itself completely into earth's particular camouflage pattern, and retaining its original pattern. The earthly viewer attempts to correlate what he sees with what he supposedly knows or imagines possible in the universe.

"What he sees is something between a horse and a dog, that resembles neither. The flying saucer retains what it can of its original structure and changes what it must. This accounts for many of the conflicting reports as to shape, size, and color. The few times the craft shoots off at right angles, it has managed to retain functions ordinary to it in its particular habitat.

"I do not believe you will have any saucer landings for quite a while, not physical landings in the usual sense of the word. These vehicles cannot stay on your plane for any length of time at all. The pressures that push against the saucer itself are tremendous... The struggle to be one thing or another is very great on any plane. To conform to the laws of a particular plane is a practical necessity, and at this time the flying saucer craft simply cannot afford to stay betwixt and between for any indefinite period.

"What they do is take quick glimpses of your plane--and hold in mind that the saucer or cigar shape [often] seen on your planet is a bastard form having little relation to the structure as it is at home base.

"At a later date I may go into the inhabitants of [those planes] more thoroughly, but as it is I am not very much acquainted with them myself.

"There are so many things you do not understand that I hope to explain to you. There are other things you do not understand that I cannot explain to you, simply because they would be too alien now for your regular mode of thought...

"One note along these lines. A plane--and I am using your term; I will try to think of a better one--is not necessarily a planet. A plane may be one planet, but a plane may also exist where no planet is. One planet may have several planes. Planes may also involve various aspects of apparent time--this particular matter being too difficult to go into right now, although I will continue it later.

"Planes can and do intermix without the knowledge of the inhabitants of the particular planes involved. I want to get away from the idea of a plane being a place. It may be in some cases but is not always. A plane may be a time. A plane, believe it or not, may be only one iota of vitality that seems to exist by itself. A plane is something apparently divided from the rest of the universe for a time and for a reason. A plane may cease to be. A plane may spring up where there was none. A plane is formed for entities as patterns for fulfillment on various levels. A plane is a climate conducive to the development of unique and particular capacities and achievements. A plane is an isolation of elements where each one is given the most possible space in which to function.

"Planets have been used as planes and used again as other planes. A plane is not a cosmic location. It is oftentimes practical that entities or their various personalities visit one plane before another. This does not necessarily mean that one plane must be visited before another. A certain succession is merely more useful for the entity as a whole.

"In other terms, you could say that an entity visits all planes simultaneously, as it is possible for you to visit a certain state, county, and city at one time. You might also visit the states of sorrow and joy almost simultaneously, and experience both emotions in heightened form because of the almost immediate contrast between them.

"In fact, the analogy of a plane with an emotional state is much more valid than that between a plane and a geographical state--particularly since emotional states take up no room.

i don't know about 'greatest'
but very, very damn good FO SHO!
my Mom gave me Seth Speaks when I was 18
totally blew my mind!
47 now, and still love reading it....

yep,Michael, that was the passage I just read the other evening.Thank you for posting it. It was in Dreams of Projection and Consciousness but excerpted from an earlier work.

It makes sense to me since the things I have seen are all kinds of bizarre and always seem like special effects, could not be real. One time, I saw 2 cubes spinning in sync with each other but I am not sure if they were actually spinning or I could just see all aspects at once! very confusing. I do believe that they can skip through our dimensional plane as if it is all a big grid.They can skip through one to another. Seth likened it to a bunch of wires but I had a non human being describe it to me as a grid.(yeh yeh everybody who wants to say I am a liar, shut up, I don't care if you think I am nuts-I am not in contact with this being anymore, it was a temporary situation and I don't want to argue-just let it be) We just seem to be only in 3 d bodies but it is just framework that we have created. The others have a framework too. Different natural laws that are not laws. Combine the two and watch out-nothing is ever the same!

Currently, I am trying to understand what Seth means by mental enzymes, I just can't grok it.

What do you think of Seth II? That being says he is a watcher.
He is not jovial and personable like Seth but more computer-like.

Thanks for your posts Michael, you keep on trying to figure it all out and I admire that.

Absolutely!

I listen to it about once a week. Sometimes more when I need more reminding.

Here is a Youtube Playlist for the same book.

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Seth 2, Ya, That is a little far out there, not sure what to make of that/him :-)

SETH is a sucking, hungry ghost masquerading as a being of wisdom. He was probably a CEO when he was alive.

Thats like saying Willber is,
or Darrel,
you know, one of those funny names.

She died a miserable lying fraud. She practiced her channeling in her eary days, and then the stupid NewAgers fell for her parlor tricks. How do I know, I was one of them.

In late 1963, Jane Roberts and her husband, Robert Butts, experimented with a Ouijaboard as part of Roberts' research for a book on extra-sensory perception. According to Roberts and Butts, on December 2, 1963 they began to receive coherent messages from a male personality who eventually identified himself as Seth.

If that does not set off alarm bells I don't what does

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You guys will eventually learn to stop eating lower astral entity candy.

Can't hold a match to the Gospels.

Part 2.

They know (if some of you more serious people will forgive me and I close my eyes so as not to embarrass you)-- They know that existence is fun. They realize that fun is good and joyful, and that the gods play.

They recognize that through expressing their own reality they form these atoms and molecules and cells reality that you think of as a physical body. The atoms within your toe do not stop and say, Oh ah, I must be responsible and sober and form this toe, and I must think very carefully before I move, because after all I am damned at the beginning. You would have some toe!

Now, I would return you to your class and to your selves.
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Seth. Your being is important. The fact that you are lively impresses the universe. And that impression is never lost. That impression lives, in your terms, though time itself is forgotten and dies. Your being, as it is, is important. And whatever you do it is not privy.

When you realize that your being is important, then you will realize that by being yourself, you will do, in your terms, important things you cannot do otherwise.

Now we are here - a small group, and you meet with yourselves and with me, many of you weekly in an intimate relationship. There are you who will listen to me speak, and I believe you are there, audience, though I cannot see you. You are quite invisible to me. You can see the people in this room and so you believe in their existence. But they cannot see you. And yet they believe in your existence. We then ask you to realize that though we cannot see you, we agree that you exist. I am sure that you do not need our agreement.

Nevertheless, we all ask you to realize that when you look in the mirror, you see images of yourselves, but you do not perceive the inner self that you know exists. And so each of us here asks each of you to realize that you have an inner identity that you cannot physically perceive, and an inner voice that you do not hear with your ears.

Each of us here therefore asks you to admit the validity of your own being, to enjoy the being that you see and feel and touch, and yet you realize that you have a still greater vitality and reality.

We ask you in the most scandalous manner possible to realize one thing, that you are good, that you are blessed, and that there is nothing wrong with you.

Now there are many levels of consciousness and awareness. And there are ways that things are said, and unsaid.

There are gestalts, or families, of consciousness. Each of you belongs to such families. You are yourselves, yet you have physical families. You have families of consciousness. For most of the people in this room belong to a family called Samadi. And so--

And you give the message to yourselves, for you are the message. The medium is not the message. You are the message.

If only we can show you yourselves enough, then you will trust yourselves enough to explore those dimensions of your own greater reality that no one else can ever know or ever explore.

There are journeys of consciousness that no one can take from you. And yet as you take them, you take steps in other terms for others, and you leave a mark for your brothers and sisters to follow in their own explorations - cards that say, I have been here; the place is safe; I leave you a sign of peace. Your being, alone, is important and has a validity beyond any philosophy.

Competing myths are probably healthy.

If you believe strongly enough you supply the reasons they can't possibly be true yourself.

what they have done to you
over the shore
very bad

the greatest spiritual teacher is your soul!
search between your loved ones and friends
you will perhaps manage to refresh the bond

My name is Seth Carter. ...C.C

i thought Dan Reed was the greatest!
bahaha

Seth is the internationally acclaimed spiritual teacher who spoke through the author Jane Roberts while she was in trance, and coined the phrase "You Create Your Own Reality." Seth's empowering message literally launched the New Age movement.

The books written by Seth have sold over seven million copies and have been translated into over eleven languages.

Seth's clear presentation of the furthest reaches of human potential, the eternal validity of the soul, and the concept that we create our own reality according to our beliefs, has rippled out to affect the lives of people in every corner of the globe.

Seth's voice clearly stands out as one of the major forces which led to the current New Age philosophical movement.

His work (first published in the late 1960s) has withstood the test of time and is still the most dynamic, comprehensive, brilliant and undistorted map of inner reality and human potential available today.

If you want answers to life's most important questions, if you want to improve your life conditions, Seth will show you how, not by relying on him, but by accessing and using the tremendous source of power and wisdom that lies within you.

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Seth: The Greatest Spiritual Teacher of our Time -

GLP, are there any Seth followers here?

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                                 "All time is now. All space is here."
                                 - Seth

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