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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/01/2020 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Red King Thanks for granting me the possibility of kingship, Lking. Forgive me that I’m not interested. There’s a couple reasons for that, mainly that I am an American and monarchy just seems like a relic of the past. I’ve also mentioned before that I praise the Lord for all that happens in my life. I never said I’m king. The title is a reference to fanciful things that warm my heart and basically has nothing to do with you. I’ve never watched game of thrones and wouldn’t invest myself into letting the author of it decide my view of the world. Just in general, I appreciate the gesture. You might think your feelings are irrelevant but I wish for you to feel well and happy anyway. Edit: needed to split the post for coherency I didn't make the rules, nothing to thank me for. Again, I was just stating an obvious fact. Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. There are Kings and the King of Kings. Praise Him. Logic is just a toy yes. Logic is a very fragile thing. Well no. In a King of Kings model, the "sub kings" are called Lords. You can have multiple kings of different kingdoms, but you can't have multiple kings in one kingdom. A "King of" anything signifies a kingdom. Logically, there is no such thing as "King of kings". Only "King of Lords (vassals)". Obviously my handle and the topic will seem out of sync, given who I am but like I said before, it's not directed at you and it's not directed at this thread either. The word king has more meanings than monarch. My handle is blending some of those meanings together alongside the common definition. It's a reminder of a book I loved as a kid :) |
razvitie
User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/01/2020 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K. This is my illusion. I hope you like it. Do not fall in front. Music in order to relax. I like it. Can we dance? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] razvitie |
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Ordoz II
User ID: 65667488 South Africa 03/01/2020 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have to catch up before all that. We heard rumors about you... 02/02/2020 is a nexus point in and of itself, so spill. Ohhh rumors! I'd love to hear what they are. I can't spill yet! :) It's still taking shape is all I'll share. Taking the shape of an island? lol. ENGAGE!!! |
Ordoz II
User ID: 65667488 South Africa 03/01/2020 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're All Kings and Queens. Quoting: LKing If you talk the talk you better walk the walk though, because on your journey you will be tested, and we've all watched enough game of thrones to know what happens when you sit on the throne. So you better really be about it. Thanks for granting me the possibility of kingship, Lking. Forgive me that I’m not interested. There’s a couple reasons for that, mainly that I am an American and monarchy just seems like a relic of the past. I’ve also mentioned before that I praise the Lord for all that happens in my life. I never said I’m king. The title is a reference to fanciful things that warm my heart and basically has nothing to do with you. I’ve never watched game of thrones and wouldn’t invest myself into letting the author of it decide my view of the world. Just in general, I appreciate the gesture. You might think your feelings are irrelevant but I wish for you to feel well and happy anyway. Edit: needed to split the post for coherency I didn't make the rules, nothing to thank me for. Again, I was just stating an obvious fact. Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass? The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream. There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships. So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that... Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent. 1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing. I'll say that again, slightly differently; 1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing. PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic. We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience? ENGAGE!!! |
Ordoz II
User ID: 28835144 South Africa 03/01/2020 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are you looking for that you need guidelines to tell you a direction of where to go? Quoting: Mayhem 78506749 I want to understand who / what is the source of everything around. How does this source work and what is the functional dependence of what happens to me from this source. Maybe. Film is a very restricted medium. Reality is much less restrictive. Perhaps the episode from the Interstellar film, where the father sends his daughter messages in the form of Morse code, is the most successful representation of what I mean by the word "movie". Are you sure? How are you able to know this without perceiving something about it? My understanding of time and space is based on the work of the Russian scientist Nikolai Alexandrovich Kozyrev. In his work, he points out that "being does not always determine consciousness." The true "I" is not attached neither to time nor to space. “Where” implies space already. But I’ll play along. It’s “here”. In perception, something moving far away from you appears the same as if it’s shrinking. If you can’t perceive beyond perception then it may be time to put perception to rest, and just go with what you know. cannot imagine in my physical body how it is possible to exist outside of what I am used to perceive as what I see in the reflection of a mirror. But knowing that this is possible is haunting me. In this conflict of the materialistic and intangible there must be a winner. If everything exists then there is nothing to author, nothing to do or create or cause. Can something go from nonexistent to existent? What about the other way around? Is there such a boundary, or do things merely change forms (representations) and the base substance of existence is all there is? This is what interests me - what is the main substance. What is its nature and properties. Where did it come from. How am I interconnected with him. What influence do I have on him, and what effect does it have on me ... The flow of questions has no end. Thank you for quitting my thirst for knowledge. It is an honor for me to communicate with you. There is only one "substance" and it is Perception. Try to understand this concept literally. It is not seeing out of a physical eye, or even with the mind's eye, it is a literal (metaphysical?) thing that permeates all things (itself). It is technically no-thing, that split itself into some things in order to perceive of itself to know what "nothing" is, but since nothing can not be represented it will always be spewing out different some-things in this crazy eternal dream. This is what/where we all find ourselves, aware as individuated portions of the whole, with no recollection of where/when it started or where/when it ends because it didn't and it doesn't. Your connection to it and how you can affect/effect it is best described in the Hebrew bible as "I and My Father are One." And "He is Greater" .. Meaning, the microcosm matches the macrocosm. You have the power to perceive/experience absolutely anything you so desire because you are essentially a 'lil god' within God; Perception. All things already exist because creation is finished, you move in time space as cognitive tricks to create a narrative that makes sense from this level of being 'lil God' when in actuality there has never been movement, and when we stop dreaming we will wake up from the very same spot we laid to rest as God; I.e. 0. Which is impossible because it is beyond perception, and being beyond perception: it appears infinite. Meaning we'll always be forming new/different relationships. Forever and eternally. Now; how you can affect your perception from within this modality to experience some-thing(s) you have not is by representing it/them in some way within your current perspective... The basics are make a trinket and your hidden mind (subconscious?) believes its real and brings it to you. The advanced stuff is more abstract, but it taps directly into the language of perception to show you what's already there. Any questions? Last Edited by Ordoz II on 03/01/2020 12:07 PM ENGAGE!!! |
razvitie
User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/01/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one "substance" and it is Perception. Try to understand this concept literally. It is not seeing out of a physical eye, or even with the mind's eye, it is a literal (metaphysical?) thing that permeates all things (itself). It is technically no-thing, that split itself into some things in order to perceive of itself to know what "nothing" is, but since nothing can not be represented it will always be spewing out different some-things in this crazy eternal dream. Quoting: Ordoz II This is what/where we all find ourselves, aware as individuated portions of the whole, with no recollection of where/when it started or where/when it ends because it didn't and it doesn't. Your connection to it and how you can affect/effect it is best described in the Hebrew bible as "I and My Father are One." And "He is Greater" .. Meaning, the microcosm matches the macrocosm. You have the power to perceive/experience absolutely anything you so desire because you are essentially a 'lil god' within God; Perception. All things already exist because creation is finished, you move in time space as cognitive tricks to create a narrative that makes sense from this level of being 'lil God' when in actuality there has never been movement, and when we stop dreaming we will wake up from the very same spot we laid to rest as God; I.e. 0. Which is impossible because it is beyond perception, and being beyond perception: it appears infinite. Meaning we'll always be forming new/different relationships. Forever and eternally. Now; how you can affect your perception from within this modality to experience some-thing(s) you have not is by representing it/them in some way within your current perspective... The basics are make a trinket and your hidden mind (subconscious?) believes its real and brings it to you. The advanced stuff is more abstract, but it taps directly into the language of perception to show you what's already there. Any questions? My respect, Ordoz! Substance (lat. Substantia - essence; that which lies at the base) - that which exists autonomously, in itself. Perception, perception (from lat. Perceptio) - sensual knowledge of the objects of the world, subjectively presented as direct. Based on strict definitions of the concepts of "substance" and "perception", I come to the conclusion that the basic material of the universe exists unchanged and only my desire affects what I will produce from it. This material has the properties of universality, and from it everything is produced that my imagination is able to model and “assemble”. Please tell me, dear Ordoz: Am I part of a substance? I do not mean my physical body, namely the "I", which controls what I see as a reflection of myself in the mirror? <That is, the microcosm corresponds to the macrocosm.> Do I correctly perceive your statement as the fractal content of the small in the great. From the point of view of classical physics, can it be argued that the laws of the microworld and the macrocosm are universal? That everything is created according to a single template? If creation is complete, then the physical universe must be finite. Where do its borders go? A person as a creature is negligible, but in conditions of limited time, he is able to understand that there is something that lies something beyond that cannot be perceived. But since there is still "nothing," there must be something that is beyond it. What could it be? Returning to the experience of my life, I realized how to materialize the desired objects or relationships, whether it be a packet of cookies or sex with an attractive girl. What torments me is different, what is the principle of my perception, by what algorithm is what I want implemented? I apologize if something written is incomprehensible. Sincerely. razvitie |
LKing
User ID: 75954739 United Kingdom 03/01/2020 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: LKing I didn't make the rules, nothing to thank me for. Again, I was just stating an obvious fact. Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. There are Kings and the King of Kings. Praise Him. Logic is just a toy yes. Logic is a very fragile thing. Well no. In a King of Kings model, the "sub kings" are called Lords. You can have multiple kings of different kingdoms, but you can't have multiple kings in one kingdom. A "King of" anything signifies a kingdom. Logically, there is no such thing as "King of kings". Only "King of Lords (vassals)". Obviously my handle and the topic will seem out of sync, given who I am but like I said before, it's not directed at you and it's not directed at this thread either. The word king has more meanings than monarch. My handle is blending some of those meanings together alongside the common definition. It's a reminder of a book I loved as a kid :) What you said wasn't logical. Praise the King of Kings. Praise him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75954739 United Kingdom 03/01/2020 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Red King Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. There are Kings and the King of Kings. Praise Him. Logic is just a toy yes. Logic is a very fragile thing. Well no. In a King of Kings model, the "sub kings" are called Lords. You can have multiple kings of different kingdoms, but you can't have multiple kings in one kingdom. A "King of" anything signifies a kingdom. Logically, there is no such thing as "King of kings". Only "King of Lords (vassals)". Obviously my handle and the topic will seem out of sync, given who I am but like I said before, it's not directed at you and it's not directed at this thread either. The word king has more meanings than monarch. My handle is blending some of those meanings together alongside the common definition. It's a reminder of a book I loved as a kid :) What you said wasn't logical. Praise the King of Kings. Praise him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/01/2020 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O.K. This is my illusion. I hope you like it. Do not fall in front. Music in order to relax. I like it. Can we dance? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Let's dance! By the way, what do you think? Is this environment suited to both independence and relationships after all? Or is there a choice to be made :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/01/2020 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Red King Thanks for granting me the possibility of kingship, Lking. Forgive me that I’m not interested. There’s a couple reasons for that, mainly that I am an American and monarchy just seems like a relic of the past. I’ve also mentioned before that I praise the Lord for all that happens in my life. I never said I’m king. The title is a reference to fanciful things that warm my heart and basically has nothing to do with you. I’ve never watched game of thrones and wouldn’t invest myself into letting the author of it decide my view of the world. Just in general, I appreciate the gesture. You might think your feelings are irrelevant but I wish for you to feel well and happy anyway. Edit: needed to split the post for coherency I didn't make the rules, nothing to thank me for. Again, I was just stating an obvious fact. Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass? The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream. There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships. So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that... Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent. 1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing. I'll say that again, slightly differently; 1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing. PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic. We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience? Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment. * I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book * "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing) * Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking. To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/01/2020 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Red King Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. There are Kings and the King of Kings. Praise Him. Logic is just a toy yes. Logic is a very fragile thing. Well no. In a King of Kings model, the "sub kings" are called Lords. You can have multiple kings of different kingdoms, but you can't have multiple kings in one kingdom. A "King of" anything signifies a kingdom. Logically, there is no such thing as "King of kings". Only "King of Lords (vassals)". Obviously my handle and the topic will seem out of sync, given who I am but like I said before, it's not directed at you and it's not directed at this thread either. The word king has more meanings than monarch. My handle is blending some of those meanings together alongside the common definition. It's a reminder of a book I loved as a kid :) What you said wasn't logical. Praise the King of Kings. Praise him. Hey Lking. Don't cry. |
Nahoti
User ID: 78216740 Canada 03/01/2020 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are you looking for that you need guidelines to tell you a direction of where to go? Quoting: Mayhem 78506749 I want to understand who / what is the source of everything around. How does this source work and what is the functional dependence of what happens to me from this source. Maybe. Film is a very restricted medium. Reality is much less restrictive. Perhaps the episode from the Interstellar film, where the father sends his daughter messages in the form of Morse code, is the most successful representation of what I mean by the word "movie". Are you sure? How are you able to know this without perceiving something about it? My understanding of time and space is based on the work of the Russian scientist Nikolai Alexandrovich Kozyrev. In his work, he points out that "being does not always determine consciousness." The true "I" is not attached neither to time nor to space. “Where” implies space already. But I’ll play along. It’s “here”. In perception, something moving far away from you appears the same as if it’s shrinking. If you can’t perceive beyond perception then it may be time to put perception to rest, and just go with what you know. cannot imagine in my physical body how it is possible to exist outside of what I am used to perceive as what I see in the reflection of a mirror. But knowing that this is possible is haunting me. In this conflict of the materialistic and intangible there must be a winner. If everything exists then there is nothing to author, nothing to do or create or cause. Can something go from nonexistent to existent? What about the other way around? Is there such a boundary, or do things merely change forms (representations) and the base substance of existence is all there is? This is what interests me - what is the main substance. What is its nature and properties. Where did it come from. How am I interconnected with him. What influence do I have on him, and what effect does it have on me ... The flow of questions has no end. Thank you for quitting my thirst for knowledge. It is an honor for me to communicate with you. There is only one "substance" and it is Perception. Try to understand this concept literally. It is not seeing out of a physical eye, or even with the mind's eye, it is a literal (metaphysical?) thing that permeates all things (itself). It is technically no-thing, that split itself into some things in order to perceive of itself to know what "nothing" is, but since nothing can not be represented it will always be spewing out different some-things in this crazy eternal dream. This is what/where we all find ourselves, aware as individuated portions of the whole, with no recollection of where/when it started or where/when it ends because it didn't and it doesn't. Your connection to it and how you can affect/effect it is best described in the Hebrew bible as "I and My Father are One." And "He is Greater" .. Meaning, the microcosm matches the macrocosm. You have the power to perceive/experience absolutely anything you so desire because you are essentially a 'lil god' within God; Perception. All things already exist because creation is finished, you move in time space as cognitive tricks to create a narrative that makes sense from this level of being 'lil God' when in actuality there has never been movement, and when we stop dreaming we will wake up from the very same spot we laid to rest as God; I.e. 0. Which is impossible because it is beyond perception, and being beyond perception: it appears infinite. Meaning we'll always be forming new/different relationships. Forever and eternally. Now; how you can affect your perception from within this modality to experience some-thing(s) you have not is by representing it/them in some way within your current perspective... The basics are make a trinket and your hidden mind (subconscious?) believes its real and brings it to you. The advanced stuff is more abstract, but it taps directly into the language of perception to show you what's already there. Any questions? No questions. Just thanks. That was quite the break down *applause* |
Nahoti
User ID: 78216740 Canada 03/01/2020 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My phone has a translating feature that I just noticed a couple of weeks ago. It's pretty amazing. You just type your word or sentence and it's translating immediately to the language of your choice as you type. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78216740 My last sentence in the last post was me trying to be smart by adding "seems random" in Russian (for dear Raz) but apparently this website doesn't allow for other languages/characters than good ol' English. I had to explain the random(ha!!) numbers and characters at the end of my last post. Have a brilliant night all!! See you all soon (in the dream world, where we all interact with more clarity) Hot greeting. If you want to communicate in Russian, write to the email address: [email protected] I think this idea is interesting. All the best! Hey friend! It's been great chatting with you today in Russian! Lol please any like minds here feel free to drop a word or two anytime [email protected] |
Nahoti
User ID: 78216740 Canada 03/01/2020 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did?! Smarty pants!! Thanks Cat, it's great to be back here interacting. Well I do have fantastic in-tuition. But also Yes I am smart and whatchu saying about pants??? Pics for the boys???*smirk * Haha y'alright mate? I'm not a minger, so stop smirking! Lol nice to banter again L! |
razvitie
User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/01/2020 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's dance! Quoting: The Red King By the way, what do you think? Is this environment suited to both independence and relationships after all? Or is there a choice to be made :) This environment is unique. Choice is present every second. We always have the opportunity to change perspectives or relationships. Everything in you and everything for you, my friend! razvitie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/01/2020 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's dance! Quoting: The Red King By the way, what do you think? Is this environment suited to both independence and relationships after all? Or is there a choice to be made :) This environment is unique. Choice is present every second. We always have the opportunity to change perspectives or relationships. Everything in you and everything for you, my friend! You're right. A unique environment is easy to map. You map an environment you get a pattern. Put some patterns together and you have a trope. Do a trope enough times and it becomes a cliche. You could say I'm out of ideas and I don't particularly like functioning as a cliche. If I've served my purpose, I'm glad. :) |
razvitie
User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/01/2020 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey friend! It's been great chatting with you today in Russian! Lol please any like minds here feel free to drop a word or two anytime [email protected] Quoting: Nahoti You will be the happiest, there is no reason to doubt May time be implacable, you are forever eighteen [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] C dnem Rozhdenia! Happy Birthday! razvitie |
razvitie
User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/02/2020 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right. A unique environment is easy to map. You map an environment you get a pattern. Put some patterns together and you have a trope. Do a trope enough times and it becomes a cliche. You could say I'm out of ideas and I don't particularly like functioning as a cliche. If I've served my purpose, I'm glad. Quoting: Visual Sonik :) An interesting train of thought can be traced in your words. As our teacher Chol said, everything already exists. We are only traveling. After completing one task, move on to another! There is so much that needs to be known or remembered. Do not stop! Movement creates life! razvitie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/02/2020 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're right. A unique environment is easy to map. You map an environment you get a pattern. Put some patterns together and you have a trope. Do a trope enough times and it becomes a cliche. You could say I'm out of ideas and I don't particularly like functioning as a cliche. If I've served my purpose, I'm glad. Quoting: Visual Sonik :) An interesting train of thought can be traced in your words. As our teacher Chol said, everything already exists. We are only traveling. After completing one task, move on to another! There is so much that needs to be known or remembered. Do not stop! Movement creates life! Indeed. Thanks, Raz. I'll be on my way, then. As a parting gift, I want to share this song with you. But I don't want it to seem like i'm trying to send you a message with this song. It's a way to say "I see you as..." How I see you. :) S Lyubovyu, dobrotoi i radostnoi dushoi, nedavno znakomi chelovek. Prostite, ya delal vid shto ya ne panemayu ruski. Mne bilo prosto ochen interestno obshatsa s vami, i ya ispolzeval momentam. Mozhet eto bilo ne krasivo. Sozhalevayu, esli tak. Do sledushei v strechi (sorry for the bad russian spellings, haha) |
razvitie
User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/02/2020 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed. Quoting: Visual Sonik Thanks, Raz. I'll be on my way, then. As a parting gift, I want to share this song with you. But I don't want it to seem like i'm trying to send you a message with this song. It's a way to say "I see you as..." How I see you. :) S Lyubovyu, dobrotoi i radostnoi dushoi, nedavno znakomi chelovek. Prostite, ya delal vid shto ya ne panemayu ruski. Mne bilo prosto ochen interestno obshatsa s vami, i ya ispolzeval momentam. Mozhet eto bilo ne krasivo. Sozhalevayu, esli tak. Do sledushei v strechi (sorry for the bad russian spellings, haha) Thanks for the clip. Fascinatingly. I appreciate your attention and the warmth you share. Thank you for noticing my efforts to be interesting to you. I hope that this will last as long as possible. Do not worry about your way of expressing feelings in Russian words. You are doing well. Always glad to see you! With warmth and respect for you. razvitie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 03/02/2020 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed. Quoting: Visual Sonik Thanks, Raz. I'll be on my way, then. As a parting gift, I want to share this song with you. But I don't want it to seem like i'm trying to send you a message with this song. It's a way to say "I see you as..." How I see you. :) S Lyubovyu, dobrotoi i radostnoi dushoi, nedavno znakomi chelovek. Prostite, ya delal vid shto ya ne panemayu ruski. Mne bilo prosto ochen interestno obshatsa s vami, i ya ispolzeval momentam. Mozhet eto bilo ne krasivo. Sozhalevayu, esli tak. Do sledushei v strechi (sorry for the bad russian spellings, haha) Thanks for the clip. Fascinatingly. I appreciate your attention and the warmth you share. Thank you for noticing my efforts to be interesting to you. I hope that this will last as long as possible. Do not worry about your way of expressing feelings in Russian words. You are doing well. Always glad to see you! With warmth and respect for you. Of course! I'm still around because I have 1 - 3 conversation loops open right now. I'll have to see if they fade or reach a closing comment. Like I said before, abruptly ending a conversation is rude :) Mozhet v sleduyushi raz ya vam raskazhu drugoi sekret, no sechas mne ne-mnogo stidno ob etom raskazat'. Po mimo etogo u menya poyavilas sleduyushiya zadacha. Vseh blag. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66524387 Russia 03/02/2020 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course! I'm still around because I have 1 - 3 conversation loops open right now. I'll have to see if they fade or reach a closing comment. Like I said before, abruptly ending a conversation is rude :) Quoting: Visual Sonik Mozhet v sleduyushi raz ya vam raskazhu drugoi sekret, no sechas mne ne-mnogo stidno ob etom raskazat'. Po mimo etogo u menya poyavilas sleduyushiya zadacha. Vseh blag. If you have something that you would like to talk about, you can write to e-mail: [email protected] |
Ordoz II
User ID: 28713331 South Africa 03/02/2020 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one "substance" and it is Perception. Try to understand this concept literally. It is not seeing out of a physical eye, or even with the mind's eye, it is a literal (metaphysical?) thing that permeates all things (itself). It is technically no-thing, that split itself into some things in order to perceive of itself to know what "nothing" is, but since nothing can not be represented it will always be spewing out different some-things in this crazy eternal dream. Quoting: Ordoz II This is what/where we all find ourselves, aware as individuated portions of the whole, with no recollection of where/when it started or where/when it ends because it didn't and it doesn't. Your connection to it and how you can affect/effect it is best described in the Hebrew bible as "I and My Father are One." And "He is Greater" .. Meaning, the microcosm matches the macrocosm. You have the power to perceive/experience absolutely anything you so desire because you are essentially a 'lil god' within God; Perception. All things already exist because creation is finished, you move in time space as cognitive tricks to create a narrative that makes sense from this level of being 'lil God' when in actuality there has never been movement, and when we stop dreaming we will wake up from the very same spot we laid to rest as God; I.e. 0. Which is impossible because it is beyond perception, and being beyond perception: it appears infinite. Meaning we'll always be forming new/different relationships. Forever and eternally. Now; how you can affect your perception from within this modality to experience some-thing(s) you have not is by representing it/them in some way within your current perspective... The basics are make a trinket and your hidden mind (subconscious?) believes its real and brings it to you. The advanced stuff is more abstract, but it taps directly into the language of perception to show you what's already there. Any questions? My respect, Ordoz! Substance (lat. Substantia - essence; that which lies at the base) - that which exists autonomously, in itself. Perception, perception (from lat. Perceptio) - sensual knowledge of the objects of the world, subjectively presented as direct. Based on strict definitions of the concepts of "substance" and "perception", I come to the conclusion that the basic material of the universe exists unchanged and only my desire affects what I will produce from it. This material has the properties of universality, and from it everything is produced that my imagination is able to model and “assemble”. Please tell me, dear Ordoz: Am I part of a substance? I do not mean my physical body, namely the "I", which controls what I see as a reflection of myself in the mirror? <That is, the microcosm corresponds to the macrocosm.> Do I correctly perceive your statement as the fractal content of the small in the great. From the point of view of classical physics, can it be argued that the laws of the microworld and the macrocosm are universal? That everything is created according to a single template? If creation is complete, then the physical universe must be finite. Where do its borders go? A person as a creature is negligible, but in conditions of limited time, he is able to understand that there is something that lies something beyond that cannot be perceived. But since there is still "nothing," there must be something that is beyond it. What could it be? Returning to the experience of my life, I realized how to materialize the desired objects or relationships, whether it be a packet of cookies or sex with an attractive girl. What torments me is different, what is the principle of my perception, by what algorithm is what I want implemented? I apologize if something written is incomprehensible. Sincerely. Yes you are One with it, like already mentioned. The quote said "I and my Father are One" after all. Yes, the single template is 1, 2, 3, 5. No, there is no finite physical universe because there is no physicality. What you see as physical is merely a configuration of representations (relationships) or light particles grouping together to give the illusion of 'things' .. Within your perspective. Algo: 1, 2, 3, 5. ENGAGE!!! |
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Jestis
User ID: 78553849 Hong Kong 03/02/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes you are One with it, like already mentioned. The quote said "I and my Father are One" after all. Quoting: Ordoz II Yes, the single template is 1, 2, 3, 5. [snippies] 0 - mother (chaos) 1 - father (order) 1 - "son" (chaos) 2 - yada 3 - yada 5 - yada so to speak, "I and that from which I came are 1" forwards: I and father are 1 backwares: 1 are father and I (plural) video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Ordoz II
User ID: 28713331 South Africa 03/02/2020 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: LKing I didn't make the rules, nothing to thank me for. Again, I was just stating an obvious fact. Thank you for granting the possibility in your mind is what I'm saying. Before, you were on about being number 1 and talking about second placers as if everyone uses those arabic numerals to govern themselves. At least now you have shown that your clarity of vision is intact. By the way, in discovering that there are no rules, following rules can only take you so far. Ever notice how logic in the Genius is optional? It's just a toy. Funny enough, in your favorite childhood book, the demeanor of your namesake's plight was idleness. You are "fit to snore your head-off!" .. Do you see .. Through the Looking-Glass? The glass is tainted with your perspective; all the players are shit-tinted, in your dream. There is no one else, except yourself reflected. So if you fight others you are fighting yourself, if you care not for their input you are hiding from aspects of yourself. There is no physicality as we know it, nor is there consciousness - only relationships. So merely ask yourself how you relate (or fail to relate-) to everybody and every thing within your perspective to discover who you are BEing. You will only get more of that... Also, I think logic is quite fundamentally the most important element there is - it's not a toy, it's just dangerous if misused, this is why we chose to leave it out and/or make it optional in the genie. In truth, there is logic in every element just as there is every element in every element, it just isn't as apparent. 1 is the beginning, without it there is nothing. I'll say that again, slightly differently; 1 is the begin-in, with-out it there is no-thing. PS: it's not that there "aren't any rules" it's that you just don't understand the rules already in place, they may be inverse to the rules you were previously accustomed to but they are a Logic. We'll ask you again, where do you want to experience? Hi Ordoz. Thanks for reaching out. Let me offer you some adjustment to your perspective where it's out of alignment. * I haven't mentioned my favorite childhood book * "The Red King" is not related to "Through the Looking Glass" (in how I'm referencing) * Thanks for spilling the deets on logic and the rules. It's nice that you are finally offering something substantial. Sorry you reacted to my teasing Lking. To answer what your hivemind is apparently asking me, about where I want to experience, I'm all ready there. I've been there. And, I've done that. As for my presence in this thread, I'm considering moving on from here since it's coming across that the old students have come to represent the old physicality/old paradigm that is being supplanted. Maybe that's intentional, but why it happens is not my concern. My only concern is doing what I need to do, which I always do and never need a "Lking" to come try to Lick me in a conversation. Lickers gonna lick, if you've heard the saying. Btw I don't know if you're familiar with the old fashion term licking used to mean "fighting". Thanks for the inputs. I appreciate your contradictory nature, you say you are already there - yet you also say you have something you "need to do" ... Duality has always been a great tool to create drama, the illusion of existing. You are clearly hiding from yourself, afraid of the truth - that you are Nothing. Is what I am saying to you desirable? Because apparently you are already there yes? This discourse is your ideal...? Some lies are useful, this one is not. It's okay to be fallible - we know we don't know it all. But we know what is useful / what works, and we use it. If you don't like being licked change how you relate to your representations, running away from the thread will have the same geometry show up elsewhere in your life. You can't get away from You. PS: LeKing licks guns lol. ENGAGE!!! |
Ordoz II
User ID: 28713331 South Africa 03/02/2020 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are you looking for that you need guidelines to tell you a direction of where to go? Quoting: Mayhem 78506749 I want to understand who / what is the source of everything around. How does this source work and what is the functional dependence of what happens to me from this source. Maybe. Film is a very restricted medium. Reality is much less restrictive. Perhaps the episode from the Interstellar film, where the father sends his daughter messages in the form of Morse code, is the most successful representation of what I mean by the word "movie". Are you sure? How are you able to know this without perceiving something about it? My understanding of time and space is based on the work of the Russian scientist Nikolai Alexandrovich Kozyrev. In his work, he points out that "being does not always determine consciousness." The true "I" is not attached neither to time nor to space. “Where” implies space already. But I’ll play along. It’s “here”. In perception, something moving far away from you appears the same as if it’s shrinking. If you can’t perceive beyond perception then it may be time to put perception to rest, and just go with what you know. cannot imagine in my physical body how it is possible to exist outside of what I am used to perceive as what I see in the reflection of a mirror. But knowing that this is possible is haunting me. In this conflict of the materialistic and intangible there must be a winner. If everything exists then there is nothing to author, nothing to do or create or cause. Can something go from nonexistent to existent? What about the other way around? Is there such a boundary, or do things merely change forms (representations) and the base substance of existence is all there is? This is what interests me - what is the main substance. What is its nature and properties. Where did it come from. How am I interconnected with him. What influence do I have on him, and what effect does it have on me ... The flow of questions has no end. Thank you for quitting my thirst for knowledge. It is an honor for me to communicate with you. There is only one "substance" and it is Perception. Try to understand this concept literally. It is not seeing out of a physical eye, or even with the mind's eye, it is a literal (metaphysical?) thing that permeates all things (itself). It is technically no-thing, that split itself into some things in order to perceive of itself to know what "nothing" is, but since nothing can not be represented it will always be spewing out different some-things in this crazy eternal dream. This is what/where we all find ourselves, aware as individuated portions of the whole, with no recollection of where/when it started or where/when it ends because it didn't and it doesn't. Your connection to it and how you can affect/effect it is best described in the Hebrew bible as "I and My Father are One." And "He is Greater" .. Meaning, the microcosm matches the macrocosm. You have the power to perceive/experience absolutely anything you so desire because you are essentially a 'lil god' within God; Perception. All things already exist because creation is finished, you move in time space as cognitive tricks to create a narrative that makes sense from this level of being 'lil God' when in actuality there has never been movement, and when we stop dreaming we will wake up from the very same spot we laid to rest as God; I.e. 0. Which is impossible because it is beyond perception, and being beyond perception: it appears infinite. Meaning we'll always be forming new/different relationships. Forever and eternally. Now; how you can affect your perception from within this modality to experience some-thing(s) you have not is by representing it/them in some way within your current perspective... The basics are make a trinket and your hidden mind (subconscious?) believes its real and brings it to you. The advanced stuff is more abstract, but it taps directly into the language of perception to show you what's already there. Any questions? No questions. Just thanks. That was quite the break down *applause* Why thank you! *applauds back* It's my pleasure.. ENGAGE!!! |
Ordoz II
User ID: 28713331 South Africa 03/02/2020 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is God the trapped starving alien they were torturing to death in Returner? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77743250 LOL yes.. And the torturers, and the set, and the spider on the web in the corner of the room... And you. And your couch. And the pixels on the screen in between you. And the dust particles kicked up as you were jumping from your seat. And the carpet. And the floor. And the dead body under your living room. And China. And Orion's belt. ENGAGE!!! |