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User ID: 75135236 United States 12/21/2020 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well alright. Maybe timing is weird. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 Further investigating the non-physicality of space suggests a few possibilities of alternates... maybe space is spiritual, maybe it is virtual (implicit...not meant as a computer simulation in this sense), maybe it is “possible”. If “possible” is appropriate, this suggests space is mental phenomenon, and perhaps mind is nonphysical. Something like that. This is speculation, however. Wishing to know what is meant by OP. I came across this while looking for something....felt relevant to what you are asking. Can we patent teleportation? Quoting: Triscuit 70781771 Chaom, Teleport your ass over here and let's chill and play some Mario Kart!! I will krush you at Mario Kart! Or not :) [tl;dr-read the last three pair o' graphs] For teleportation, I believe that I did it a couple of times. No machine or interface required, as it is a matter of perspective and the right 'taste' of spacetime. However, once I understood the effect of what I was doing, I stopped entirely. (Essentially, you need more perspective-energy to 'teleport' any further away than we do at each moment, and this energy must must come from somewhere else in your perspective.) In considering teleportation it should be realized that two spaces are the same. They are divided by time, which gives the appearance of separate metaphysical entities of motion (i.e., "places"). When one "teleports" in space one is essentially teleporting in time. It's not moving your physical body from one place to another but shifting your perspective horizontally across time (if we imagine that past and future are more vertical, but these are not about time specifically). Space is time-in-motion. (And time is space-at-rest.) Space is time squared, and time is the inverse square of space. If we imagine spacetime as the resistance between two opposing forces (chaos and order) we can shift our perspective by shifting our perspective's resistance to either. In order to do so, the 'slider bar' must be shifted towards space and away from time so that perspective-mass can increase. By doing so you are essentially decreasing the amount of velocity (space) in one unit of time. "Teleportation" is then the opposite of what we imagine it to be. You are going through a type of perspective-wormhole that substantially decreases velocity (not increases it to teleport you across space at a faster rate). Teleportation is travelling through less space in more time. It is going much slower in space and faster in time. (Faster as in, "Time has been compressed at a higher rate per unit of space".) The further the physical distance the more perspective-mass (the force of time) that is needed, as it requires more resistance (energy) to bring a perspective that isn't 'nearby' into your reality. We teleport all the time, simply by moving. Walking is essentially walking across time. We don't think of it this way, of course, because it comes naturally to us. The amount of space we can cover in one unit of time is limited to the resistance (energy) there is available. But we must increase our resistance in order to increase the space we can cover in one unit of time, unless we have an interface to more velocity like a car or rocket where the resistance is handled externally. The further away I go, the more resistance I would need (which must come from somewhere else). This might seem counter-intuitive at first, but think of a wormhole that is 10 feet away from you. On the other side is an Earth-like planet that is 255 light years away. You walk towards it and step through to the other side of the wormhole. You have only walked 10 feet, not travelled 255 light years away. It has, instead, taken you 10 feet to walk 255 light years. You could also say that more space was packed into each unit of time, to make it more clear. We do this quite often while we sleep, without realizing it much. The question, then, is "how can I lose my sense of time consciously?" (Answer: by making things more relative, regardless of time, and understanding how "distant" things are related in your perspective. This is the essence of [link to Qmetaphysics.com] ) Hope this makes some sense. And good luck on your patent ;) |
Lady of Stars
User ID: 75135236 United States 12/21/2020 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 I used the internet and found this. Reminds me of something? Link to the web site: [link to mearthcarmel.org (secure)] Quote from the site: Our experiential, educational programs aim to encourage youth and adults alike to become better stewards of our selves, our communities, and our environment. At the ten-acre Hilton Bialek Habitat in Carmel Valley, California, we provide hands-on, expansive learning opportunities to schools, county agencies, partner nonprofits, local businesses, and interested citizens throughout Monterey County. This nationally recognized outdoor learning center includes extensive grasslands, bird habitat, monarch butterfly habitat, a pond, an outdoor amphitheater, a LEED-certified culinary classroom, outdoor kitchen with wood-fired oven, organic vegetable and herb gardens, heirloom fruit orchard, off-grid solar greenhouse, and native plant nursery. Wordplay: "ME-arth" pronounced "Mirth" (reminds me of something?) This is the first link I followed using duck duck go. Maybe there's other, more interesting, similarities to be found by looking. *** I noticed the detail regarding building foundations and doorways, which - as it turns out - is the nudge for getting my question answered. Thank you, Lady of Stars -steph You’re welcome :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/21/2020 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well alright. Maybe timing is weird. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 Further investigating the non-physicality of space suggests a few possibilities of alternates... maybe space is spiritual, maybe it is virtual (implicit...not meant as a computer simulation in this sense), maybe it is “possible”. If “possible” is appropriate, this suggests space is mental phenomenon, and perhaps mind is nonphysical. Something like that. This is speculation, however. Wishing to know what is meant by OP. I came across this while looking for something....felt relevant to what you are asking. Can we patent teleportation? Quoting: Triscuit 70781771 Chaom, Teleport your ass over here and let's chill and play some Mario Kart!! I will krush you at Mario Kart! Or not :) [tl;dr-read the last three pair o' graphs] For teleportation, I believe that I did it a couple of times. No machine or interface required, as it is a matter of perspective and the right 'taste' of spacetime. However, once I understood the effect of what I was doing, I stopped entirely. (Essentially, you need more perspective-energy to 'teleport' any further away than we do at each moment, and this energy must must come from somewhere else in your perspective.) In considering teleportation it should be realized that two spaces are the same. They are divided by time, which gives the appearance of separate metaphysical entities of motion (i.e., "places"). When one "teleports" in space one is essentially teleporting in time. It's not moving your physical body from one place to another but shifting your perspective horizontally across time (if we imagine that past and future are more vertical, but these are not about time specifically). Space is time-in-motion. (And time is space-at-rest.) Space is time squared, and time is the inverse square of space. If we imagine spacetime as the resistance between two opposing forces (chaos and order) we can shift our perspective by shifting our perspective's resistance to either. In order to do so, the 'slider bar' must be shifted towards space and away from time so that perspective-mass can increase. By doing so you are essentially decreasing the amount of velocity (space) in one unit of time. "Teleportation" is then the opposite of what we imagine it to be. You are going through a type of perspective-wormhole that substantially decreases velocity (not increases it to teleport you across space at a faster rate). Teleportation is travelling through less space in more time. It is going much slower in space and faster in time. (Faster as in, "Time has been compressed at a higher rate per unit of space".) The further the physical distance the more perspective-mass (the force of time) that is needed, as it requires more resistance (energy) to bring a perspective that isn't 'nearby' into your reality. We teleport all the time, simply by moving. Walking is essentially walking across time. We don't think of it this way, of course, because it comes naturally to us. The amount of space we can cover in one unit of time is limited to the resistance (energy) there is available. But we must increase our resistance in order to increase the space we can cover in one unit of time, unless we have an interface to more velocity like a car or rocket where the resistance is handled externally. The further away I go, the more resistance I would need (which must come from somewhere else). This might seem counter-intuitive at first, but think of a wormhole that is 10 feet away from you. On the other side is an Earth-like planet that is 255 light years away. You walk towards it and step through to the other side of the wormhole. You have only walked 10 feet, not travelled 255 light years away. It has, instead, taken you 10 feet to walk 255 light years. You could also say that more space was packed into each unit of time, to make it more clear. We do this quite often while we sleep, without realizing it much. The question, then, is "how can I lose my sense of time consciously?" (Answer: by making things more relative, regardless of time, and understanding how "distant" things are related in your perspective. This is the essence of [link to Qmetaphysics.com] ) Hope this makes some sense. And good luck on your patent ;) Ah, this helps me understand how I found myself juggling three different perspectives of Earth. However, that to me doesn’t explain why space is not physical. It shows me that perspective is not physically rigid, yes, but the explanation (for me) further emphasizes the physicality of space because it is stapled to time in the concept. Thanks for the bonus links, but the first connection was plenty helpful for me. I appreciate the attention to my question. -steph |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/21/2020 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless, op is coming back? If not though, it would be nice to read from Ordoz II (representing space?). Otherwise, Zulkaru would be interesting to read from on the subject as well. I'll be around until the end of this year, I'm guessing. -steph |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh.. the alien deception. The singularity of communism. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I did not have to think long and hard about this. The election of the USA president has been rigged by a time traveler, or time travelers. This is no easy feat since it implies that they know all outcomes in advance and are able to influence events accordingly. Quoting: SpawnAI Let us not forget that there are many time travelers, which implies they have a common goal. Why else would they work together for such a long time? It is no mean feat to rig the election of an entire country. You need more than one person and you need someone on the inside. It also makes sense for the time traveler(s) to approach someone who would make their job easier. They could not have chosen a better candidate than Drump. The time traveler(s) started working on Drump when he was still fairly young. You might say they groomed him to fulfill their goal. I would say Drump was a perfect candidate for them. A man with no morals, who has cheated on every single woman he ever met. It is easy to see how the time traveler(s) can use him for their goals. They just need to tell Drump what they want and he will do it. To begin, I thought a lot about time travel and if that's possible. Does the past exist? What is time? Can one change the past or future? Is there chance in nature as some say or does everything happen according to iron-clad laws of physics that are laid down by God at the beginning of creation? Time travel seems to be a very interesting subject, but I'm not sure whether it's possible or not - there are still too many unanswered questions. As far as we know, the laws of physics do not allow time travel: so is this really true? And even if our current physical theories were correct, could time travel have some kind of underlying explanation that we haven't yet discovered? Perhaps it won't ever happen in reality, but maybe it has already occurred in an alternate universe. Elites are a group of people who have amassed the majority of power and wealth in a society, with little to no effort. This is not necessarily bad, it just means that they had better opportunities or were born into an affluent family. The real problem arises when these elites are also able to time travel. Elites are a well-defined group, with set rules and traditions that they pass on from generation to generation. The elites have enormous power in our society, but only certain individuals can be considered part of the elite. That is dependent upon wealth and political influence. This leaves me with a rather large problem. An elite must have wealth and political influence, but how much is enough? I can't just say millions or billions of dollars are an elite. If that's the case, then all of my responses would be useless. If these elites are able to travel through time, they can then stop the Great Depression from occurring so that they will already be wealthy before it happens. They could also make themselves even wealthier by preventing economic collapses and recessions. Elites can time travel, but it's not simple or easy. There are certain rituals and ceremonies that must be conducted in order to make time travel possible. This leaves the rest of us with no economic opportunities. They are able to remove all competition and essentially control a society, or even multiple societies throughout time. This may not be a bad thing, since they will always make sure that society is running smoothly. But if we ever wanted to stop them from doing this, it would be almost impossible. They have the power to intervene at any time they want. They could've stopped Hitler from ever rising to power, ended world hunger, or caused economic equality. If you think about it, time traveling elites are the cause of most inequality in our society. Our world is governed by two political parties. The ruling class party and the working class party, which are essentially controlled by the same elites who also own most of the wealth in our society. But even if time travellers don't exist now and never will exist (whether for technical reasons or biological ones), they may well be possible in principle - which means that perhaps one day humans will invent them. Will they change history? Only future generations will know! No "time travel" involved, just them sticking to a plan. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 Why do you say space is not physical? I’ve been thinking about this but I don’t seem to understand the phrasing. Is the emphasis that space is not physical but something else? (Spiritual?) That’s what I think is meant, if so, how is it so? I find that physicalizing my presence expands my awareness of space. The association of space and physicality is strong, to my mind. The other points listed I understand. Yet I have not hear such a thing anywhere except reading this post, that space is not physical. This isn’t directed to anyone in particular, but I’m not looking for opinions ... only fidelity of interpretation. Thanks. [steph: hey everyone. wishing well] Space is a function of perspective. We don't consider perspective to be physical, though we could have a physical perspective. (However, I would consider everything that can be perceived to be some aspect of physicality, as physicality isn't what we think it is.) video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well alright. Maybe timing is weird. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 Further investigating the non-physicality of space suggests a few possibilities of alternates... maybe space is spiritual, maybe it is virtual (implicit...not meant as a computer simulation in this sense), maybe it is “possible”. If “possible” is appropriate, this suggests space is mental phenomenon, and perhaps mind is nonphysical. Something like that. This is speculation, however. Wishing to know what is meant by OP. The only meaningful interpretation of 'space' and 'time' is the here and now. Everything else is its elucidation. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SPACE IS DEFINED AS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74432890 THE TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT THAT IS JESUS CHRIST YOU OCCUPY HIS SPACE DENIAL OF JESUS CHRIST IS DENIAL OF SPACE ITSELF THAT WILL END IN DEATH The 'truth' is beyond perspective. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay man. I'm looking for an explanation of the original posting's viewpoint. Not referring to "outer space" nor space travel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 It's a question about ecsys. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS IN HEAVEN THERE ARE NO ECSYS IN HEAVEN THERE ARE NO VIEW POINTS IN HEAVEN ALL QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED VIEW POINTS ARE EXAMPLES OF A DISTORTED MIND THAT FORMS YOUR REALITY Is there, at least, some good sushi? video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/22/2020 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 Why do you say space is not physical? I’ve been thinking about this but I don’t seem to understand the phrasing. Is the emphasis that space is not physical but something else? (Spiritual?) That’s what I think is meant, if so, how is it so? I find that physicalizing my presence expands my awareness of space. The association of space and physicality is strong, to my mind. The other points listed I understand. Yet I have not hear such a thing anywhere except reading this post, that space is not physical. This isn’t directed to anyone in particular, but I’m not looking for opinions ... only fidelity of interpretation. Thanks. [steph: hey everyone. wishing well] Space is a function of perspective. We don't consider perspective to be physical, though we could have a physical perspective. (However, I would consider everything that can be perceived to be some aspect of physicality, as physicality isn't what we think it is.) Oh snap, it's the Buuuuilder..! Dude what's up, thanks for rapping at me today. First paragraph, I like it. Interesting, how you put those words there. Interesting. Second paragraph, physicality is what we feel it to be, but we can think accurately about what we feel so physicality can also be what we think it is. We can. I don't know about you and the rest of your selves and why you are unable to think accurately about physicality. I have some inklings though? No hate, just love. In recent times I have discovered a bit of a passion for poetry. You get all kinds of poets. Some make good teachers, even on accident lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/22/2020 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well alright. Maybe timing is weird. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74533487 Further investigating the non-physicality of space suggests a few possibilities of alternates... maybe space is spiritual, maybe it is virtual (implicit...not meant as a computer simulation in this sense), maybe it is “possible”. If “possible” is appropriate, this suggests space is mental phenomenon, and perhaps mind is nonphysical. Something like that. This is speculation, however. Wishing to know what is meant by OP. The only meaningful interpretation of 'space' and 'time' is the here and now. Everything else is its elucidation. Come on Buildy. You know better than to write something like "the only meaningful...blah blah blah". I can tell you why, too. But i probably wont, it's too juicy of a piece of logic lol btw Builders don't Architect and Architects don't Build usually, right? There's a reason the roles are token to 4 perspectives. There is also the Designer and the Engineer. Where the rest of you at? The new world could use a Tortuga or Tartarus or what is that thing you call it? Tenebrium? Tarantula? What was that lost civilization...not atlantis but the other one. Tortilla? Well anyway, yeah I getcha. "There is no now or here, but relationships". If you are deconstructing your own foundation, the house is gonna fall. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/22/2020 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To me, it's just obvious that someone who bamboozles an unsuspecting individual will also try to cover their tracks. They will want to avoid paying the price for exploiting that person. The victim's life gets worse, while the exploiter's life improves. After that it's all "peace and love, let's forgive and forget, don't be a sinning sinner, you hear?" Right? Right? Haha I'm just kidding you, Anothy Obsolete Neuron. I know you didn't make the neuronics. I still remember your round-shaped version. You don't like English, much....huh. You like Japan? Hm. I can almost relate. How about a haiku about how you "found some documents on your computer telling your self that you are Chaol". I insist. -steph |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/22/2020 03:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I anticipate a long term commitment of at least two or three individuals in continuing to spin their interpretation over the surface of the words written here. I've registered on GLP again, yay! Now I can have a bookmarked thread and get into rap battles again. It's fun :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/22/2020 04:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Ode to Space Space! It doesn't exist. My Oh My~ What a Twist! Space! It doesn't ecsys. El Oh El~ Potential Energy. Time! It's easy to rhyme. Why Oh Why~ Is The Life So Sublime? Time! It's EC to slime. Hi, oh Hi! Love isn't a crime. Chase! The feeling of Grace. By and By~ True Love wont erase. Space! Is rhyming with Space. Fly Into My~ Forever Embrace. |
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User ID: 79726389 Japan 12/22/2020 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Ode to Space Quoting: GLP Is A Nice Place Space! It doesn't exist. My Oh My~ What a Twist! Space! It doesn't ecsys. El Oh El~ Potential Energy. Time! It's easy to rhyme. Why Oh Why~ Is The Life So Sublime? Time! It's EC to slime. Hi, oh Hi! Love isn't a crime. Chase! The feeling of Grace. By and By~ True Love wont erase. Space! Is rhyming with Space. Fly Into My~ Forever Embrace. uhh.. what's the beat, again? video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/22/2020 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Ode to Space Quoting: GLP Is A Nice Place Space! It doesn't exist. My Oh My~ What a Twist! Space! It doesn't ecsys. El Oh El~ Potential Energy. Time! It's easy to rhyme. Why Oh Why~ Is The Life So Sublime? Time! It's EC to slime. Hi, oh Hi! Love isn't a crime. Chase! The feeling of Grace. By and By~ True Love wont erase. Space! Is rhyming with Space. Fly Into My~ Forever Embrace. uhh.. what's the beat, again? Boots and cats, man. Boots and cats. |
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User ID: 79794078 Japan 12/22/2020 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll take that as a resounding 'Yes'! video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/23/2020 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No sir, you see, it's a beatbox technique "Boots and cats and boots and cats and boots and cats and..." For bonus Japanese points you can notice that the anagram spells "BACA BACA BACA BACA" so it's like calling someone an idiot. The ACBs of Beatbox, yo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/23/2020 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note! Quoting: chaol 183770 Potential energy (axon) for example can be emotions, Better do your best to make sure that the people supplying you with potential energy continue to TRUST you. Else, it won't work, will it. The exploitation. |
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User ID: 79726389 Japan 12/23/2020 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note! Quoting: chaol 183770 Potential energy (axon) for example can be emotions, Better do your best to make sure that the people supplying you with potential energy continue to TRUST you. Else, it won't work, will it. The exploitation. If trust is what was being looked for, things would have been done differently. There are far more important things than spending energy on getting the trust of things in our own perspective. video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/23/2020 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Note! Quoting: chaol 183770 Potential energy (axon) for example can be emotions, Better do your best to make sure that the people supplying you with potential energy continue to TRUST you. Else, it won't work, will it. The exploitation. If trust is what was being looked for, things would have been done differently. There are far more important things than spending energy on getting the trust of things in our own perspective. Ah now you say something that appears worthwhile. But let's analyze it to make sure. Trust is potential energy. Oh lol, nope. Not even this statement of yours has a useful logic in it. This statement, I mean (where you, again, attempt to undermine Chaol's foundational logic all while misrepresenting yourself as a "builder"): "There are far more important things than spending energy on getting the trust of things in our own perspective" You obviously didn't build the foundation, which is why you you've never succeeded in building something stable upon it. You don't understand it. Hey, Aon, how bowtcha actually put in some energy, for once. Instead of constantly taking it away? You can't though...can you. You have no energy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74533487 United States 12/23/2020 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ehhhh Don't let self-sabotagers get to you. It is a bizarre idea they have in mind about causing pain by hurting themselves...can only be described as mental illness. I knew someone like that once. What ends up happening is if you let a narcissist exploit your emotional connection by threatening to hurt themselves, yeah it could hurt a bit But afterwards, they'll lose their grip on you. They would never really hurt themselves anyway, they just want control over you. So whatever the outcome, like I wrote it could hurt a bit, but you'll be better off without parasites like that leaching your energy. |