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This will fuck with your heads... MUSLIMS BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS THE MESSIAH!

 
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The following texts are from the Quran

* The angels said: “Mary! surely Allah has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of of the world. Mary! remain obedient to your Lord and humble yourself, and bow down with those who bow in worship. The angels said: Mary, surely Allah gives you good news of a Word from Him, whose name is the ‘Messiah, Isa son of Mary,’ held in honour in this world and the hereafter and of those who are near to Allah. (Al Imran 3:42-43 and 45)

* The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God and His word, which He cast into Mary and a spirit from Him (The Women, 4:169).
Jesus, the Word of God

In these two passages Jesus Christ is clearly referred to as the Word of God and as a Word from God (in Arabic: Kalilmat Allah). One would think that the Qur’an is actually echoing the text of John 1:1 in these passages: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” However Islamic scholars have mounted extensive arguments to say that the Qur’anic title given to Jesus and the biblical idea that Jesus is divine are not at all in agreement. While some Muslims know that Jesus is referred to as the Word of God in the Qur’an, the vast majority do not know what it means and even fewer realize that the same title is given to Jesus in the Bible. Some believers have used the “Word of God” texts in the Qur’an as a starting point for proclaiming the Good News of the Messiah to Muslims.
Jesus, the Messiah

In addition, the Qur’an speaks of Jesus as the Messiah (see 3:45 and 4:169 above, as well as 4.157 and 4.171). Here again the vast majority of Muslims have no idea what it means for Jesus to be the Messiah, because, in the words of one author, “the meaning of the title is almost completely glossed over in Islam.” The word “Messiah” is the same as the word Christ in Greek. It refers to the one who is anointed as king. The term carries with it not just the concept of a good king but also one who is a saviour, a deliverer, who will correct all wrongs and reign in righteousness.

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PLEASE... learn to distinguish between faithful believers and religious idiots... in both camps.
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God
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PLEASE... learn to distinguish between faithful believers and religious idiots... in both camps.
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OP those who care to investigate/research on their own know the truth. Lunatics with a serious inferiority complex try to create a version of Islam or any faith to fit their own avarice and needs..

good of you to highlight this though..
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God
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DONT fixate on the difference... relate with the similarities... the point is they believe in ONE god, just as you do.
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What's the difference?

Both are waiting for the same dude to come and clean the shit off the fan.
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God
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So who do you think sorted out that virgin birth?

Chuck Norris?
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Truth is the truth is the truth! They want religious idiots on both sides to annihilate each other in WWIII. While 'they' finance and antagonize both sides and laugh.

Real Muslims are not the enemy. Real Christians are not the enemy. Real Jews are not the enemy.

The enemy pretends to be all

If real Christians, Muslims, and Jews don't figure out how to come together (not in a UN one world religion way) as an alliance that agrees to disagree, the enemy probably will win.
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God


DONT fixate on the difference... relate with the similarities... the point is they believe in ONE god, just as you do.
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I don't.
But that's not just a different translation or something.
It's pretty much the major difference. Perhaps if you knew abit more about the two beliefs, you wouldn't have even said that.
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God


So who do you think sorted out that virgin birth?

Chuck Norris?
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Sorry lol, but wtf? They don't beleive in the virgin birth. You are kinda making yourself look like a fool now.
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God


DONT fixate on the difference... relate with the similarities... the point is they believe in ONE god, just as you do.

I don't.
But that's not just a different translation or something.
It's pretty much the major difference. Perhaps if you knew abit more about the two beliefs, you wouldn't have even said that.
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OK we all believe that H2O is water,

Dome people take it as ICE, some like it as steam, and some like it as liquid. All three are water.

We all believe in the water.

Get it, Yes there is one god, it just depends on teachings and perspectives.
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What's the difference?

Both are waiting for the same dude to come and clean the shit off the fan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806687

You prob still won't understand but there is a HUGE diff.

Muslims/Islam call Jesus a LIAR

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah...Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: above having a son."
Koran-Sura 4:171

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16



Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God

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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God


DONT fixate on the difference... relate with the similarities... the point is they believe in ONE god, just as you do.

I don't.
But that's not just a different translation or something.
It's pretty much the major difference. Perhaps if you knew abit more about the two beliefs, you wouldn't have even said that.



OK we all believe that H2O is water,

Dome people take it as ICE, some like it as steam, and some like it as liquid. All three are water.

We all believe in the water.

Get it, Yes there is one god, it just depends on teachings and perspectives.
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Quit while you're behind...
The One God was never in question.
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OP maybe you should educate yourself before you post things that educated people understand. YES muslims believe in Jesus just not that he is the son of God. They also believe he will come with their precious Madhi.
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Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
 Quoting: mathetes



But they DON'T deny Jesus is the Christ, the messiah, the anointed one.

"Christ" does not mean "son"..."Christ" refers to the position of Jesus as the chosen messiah, and Muslims AGREE that he IS CHRIST.

They only deny that he is the son of God, they say God is ONE, and is not human, so therefore cannot have a human son.

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The Jews on the other hand recognize Jesus as an usurper, a rable rouser, and a sorcerer, they have no belief in him as a prophet or even as a person of God.

The Jews HATE Christ.

The Muslims LOVE Christ.

It is one of the great delusions at the end of time, and you have fallen for it.
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Let me say this again. Muslims didn't blow up the Trade Center. They want us to fight. We are fighting. No real god would want certain people to wipe out certain other people. All religions are truthful in ways, and misused in ways.
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I can no longer resist the overwhelming temptation but...
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What's the difference?

Both are waiting for the same dude to come and clean the shit off the fan.
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dance
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What's the difference?

Both are waiting for the same dude to come and clean the shit off the fan.

You prob still won't understand but there is a HUGE diff.

Muslims/Islam call Jesus a LIAR

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah...Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: above having a son."
Koran-Sura 4:171

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16



Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
 Quoting: mathetes


I thought that Islam believes that Jesus was more of a prophet like Muhammed(sp?)
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Thank Goddess for the New Age Messiah to prove ALL these idiots WRONG and FALSE and STUPID. sun
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You do realize the Muslims think the MUSLIM jesus is the real JEsus and the Christian Jesus is the DAJJAL aka false jesus ?
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Muslims are not at all what we've been taught they are. It's hard to wrap your head around, I know. But it's true. They've been purposely villified and made to look like the bad guys. Muslims, Christians, and Jews (true Jews) are VERY close in their beliefs. Zionist jews and the American propaganda machine have done a number on them. To what end, I don't know. Probably to be the patsy. For those of you old enough to remember the 50's - the 80's, think about what we were taught about Russians. Looking back, do you really think all that shit was true? I know several Russians. They're regular folks. You should hear some of the things they were taught about us.
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Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.



But they DON'T deny Jesus is the Christ, the messiah, the anointed one.

"Christ" does not mean "son"..."Christ" refers to the position of Jesus as the chosen messiah, and Muslims AGREE that he IS CHRIST.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806693

The fact is they call him a LIAR...unless you have something that proves otherwise. Excepting your own opinion that is

Does Islam preach the same this as Christianity? Of course not,the foundation of Christianity is simple..you must accept Jesus as the SON of GOD who gave his life for mankind

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:7-9 (
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Who cares - they're BOTH wrong laugh
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What's the difference?

Both are waiting for the same dude to come and clean the shit off the fan.

You prob still won't understand but there is a HUGE diff.

Muslims/Islam call Jesus a LIAR

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah...Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: above having a son."
Koran-Sura 4:171

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
 Quoting: mathetes


Ok, please forgive an ignorant fool but was Christ Jesus not the son of Mary?

At the same time he was the Father in the Flesh....but was he not born by Mary?
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Yes op, but they don't believe He is the Son of God


So who do you think sorted out that virgin birth?

Chuck Norris?

Sorry lol, but wtf? They don't beleive in the virgin birth. You are kinda making yourself look like a fool now.
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(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

Who was the fool did you say?
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"Take away hatred from some people, and you have men without faith."
Eric Hoffer (1902–83), U.S. philosopher.
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The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)
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Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus’ enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him. And the likeness of Jesus was put over another man. Jesus’ enemies took this man and crucified him, thinking that he was Jesus. God has said:

...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)

Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in one God, brought by earlier prophets, but rather to confirm and renew it.

"Muslims also believe that God revealed a holy book to Jesus called the Injeel, some parts of which may be still available in the teachings of God to Jesus in the New Testament. But this does not mean that Muslims believe in the Bible we have today because it is not the original scriptures that were revealed by God. They underwent alterations, additions, and omissions. This was also said by the Committee charged with revising The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version). This Committee consisted of thirty-two scholars who served as members of the Committee. They secured the review and counsel of an Advisory Board of fifty representatives of the co-operating denominations. The Committee said in the Preface to The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Version), p. iv, “Sometimes it is evident that the text has suffered in transmission, but none of the versions provides a satisfactory restoration. Here we can only follow the best judgment of competent scholars as to the most probable reconstruction of the original text.” The Committee also said in the Preface, p. vii, “Notes are added which indicate significant variations, additions, or omissions in the ancient authorities (Mt 9.34; Mk 3.16; 7.4; Lk 24.32, 51, etc.).”





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