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Racist? Joe Legal and Jose Illegal | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 819969  United States11/16/2009 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155  Canada11/16/2009 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meanwhile the whole fucking media demonizes Lou Dobbs for speaking out against this. And notice when they call him a racist they never mention that he's MARRIED TO A MEXICAN WOMAN!!!!   So all those who hate on Lou Dobbs I cannot wait until your lovely neighborhood is overrun with illegals. |
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| anonymous User ID: 819733 United States11/16/2009 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Racist article? Ha!!! Read it and weep. The photo speaks volumes and is soooooo perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819969Joe Legal And Jose Illegal By Curt Maynard 11-16-9 You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California. Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted. Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table". Ready? Now pay attention... Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00. Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00. Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00. Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00. Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00. Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00. Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00. Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00. Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc. Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month. Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home. Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay. You see how this works now? If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens... You are part of the problem! It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans! [link to curtmaynardsnewestblog.blogspot.com] ps you forgot that jose wife earns $500.00 cash each week for 52 weeks to baby sit infant and clean mr excutives home.. for total bring home of additional $26,000. 00 cash no taxes witheld annual incom for thier supposed needy household.. she goes to ER for poison ivy infection.. tax payers spent $700.00 for her ER visit that day .. now that house hold has $57,000.00 cash dollars each year ..to spend or hoard . homeinvasion robbers should hit Josa's house first .. our congress has destoyed middleclass americans for decades vote em out asap. all even old time senators.. send a loud clear message to congress now. you will be fired for what you have done to americas middleclass taxpayers ..for 4 decades ..at least .. low income able bodied minority workers get aid for life in america and have cash jobs every where .. undeclared massive income . |
| PACNWguy
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| Zerocyber
User ID: 648354 United States11/16/2009 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make them pay taxes, have them take an english class, make them pay a large fine for coming here illegally. I have now fixed 50% of our problems. Report all illegals, arrest those that give them jobs or a place to stay (1 month in jail at most, don't make it horrible. Grab the illegals and do the part above). That's 75%... Deport any illegals with criminal backgrounds or questionable sanity. Give the poor ones a workers' VISA, make them HAVE to pay off the fine to live here (along with the above). Start all illegals that have paid the fines, taxes and tried to learn english on a path to becoming a legal citizen. If they do any crimes, deport them. If they don't pay the fine before thier VISA expires, deport them. If they refuse, deport them. Watch the closely (like a criminal out on parole) and make sure they aren't doing anything illegal. After all of this, I think I have fixed just 90% of our illegal immigration problems, and that was with 3 minutes of thought... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 758380 United States11/16/2009 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sigh......... Quoting: ^TrInItY^Of all the things to worry about this should be like # 15 on the list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776591 well since there are no jobs left in the USA anyway a lot of the illegals are going back to mexico which the mexican government isn't very happy about so you do have a point The even bigger issue the trade agreements and the loss of American soveriegnty. We are still under attack from Mexico and the globalists, whether illegals are here or not. We need a war against Mexico. |
| mr...bojangles
User ID: 819995  Mexico11/16/2009 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sigh......... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758380Of all the things to worry about this should be like # 15 on the list. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776591 well since there are no jobs left in the USA anyway a lot of the illegals are going back to mexico which the mexican government isn't very happy about so you do have a point The even bigger issue the trade agreements and the loss of American soveriegnty. We are still under attack from Mexico and the globalists, whether illegals are here or not. We need a war against Mexico. the CIA controls mexico..... hello? Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 788421 United States11/16/2009 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ILLEGAL ALIENS are happy as a hog in slop stealing our jobs and resourses please take a few minutes and watch this short video: This is a MUST SEE video for anyone interested in the immigration debate, whether you are a citizen, an illegal alien or a Congressman. This clip from the longer video, Immigration by the Numbers, features Roy Beck demonstrating the catastrophe of the huge numbers of both legal and illegal immigration by Third World people into the modern nations. He uses standard statistics and simple gumballs to show this disaster in the making. [link to video.google.com] this is war for them and an easy take over (So Far that is) with d.c's invitation key numbers resulting from illegal immigration in the United States.: [link to www.immigrationcounters.com] arizona rest area: [link to www.snopes.com] Do Not Weep! TAKE ACTION!!!!!!!: [link to capwiz.com] [link to www.numbersusa.com] here's a congressional switchboard 800 number: 1 800 828 0498 Beware illegal aliens; the sleeping giant is waking up and your days are numbered. conservativeoutpost.com... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776591 United States11/16/2009 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make them pay taxes, have them take an english class, make them pay a large fine for coming here illegally. Quoting: ZerocyberI have now fixed 50% of our problems. Report all illegals, arrest those that give them jobs or a place to stay (1 month in jail at most, don't make it horrible. Grab the illegals and do the part above). That's 75%... Deport any illegals with criminal backgrounds or questionable sanity. Give the poor ones a workers' VISA, make them HAVE to pay off the fine to live here (along with the above). Start all illegals that have paid the fines, taxes and tried to learn english on a path to becoming a legal citizen. If they do any crimes, deport them. If they don't pay the fine before thier VISA expires, deport them. If they refuse, deport them. Watch the closely (like a criminal out on parole) and make sure they aren't doing anything illegal. After all of this, I think I have fixed just 90% of our illegal immigration problems, and that was with 3 minutes of thought... Your draconian measures are simply not needed. Lets look at the facts. 1. Children of immigrants always assumlate just like you want, they are generally not even bilingual and love to be american dicks, you have to get over people speaking other languages. 2. History will show that the fist group of immigrants to the country are always slow to assumlate. 3. Business that hire illegals are the real source of the problem. However its just the nature of our system for business to want to hire the cheapest labor possible. So you are right on about what needs to be done in this case. In the end the gigantic bureaucracy you want to deal with the "undesirables" will cost more than what we are doing now. We dont need more police looking for more reasons to imprison people. Illegal immigration is simply not a major issue compared to other issues we have. I would encourage you to worry about yourself instead of what other are doing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 788421 United States11/16/2009 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (part of my post on a different board in case anyone already saw it there) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788421ILLEGAL ALIENS are happy as a hog in slop stealing our jobs and resourses please take a few minutes and watch this short video: This is a MUST SEE video for anyone interested in the immigration debate, whether you are a citizen, an illegal alien or a Congressman. This clip from the longer video, Immigration by the Numbers, features Roy Beck demonstrating the catastrophe of the huge numbers of both legal and illegal immigration by Third World people into the modern nations. He uses standard statistics and simple gumballs to show this disaster in the making. [link to video.google.com] this is war for them and an easy take over (So Far that is) with d.c's invitation key numbers resulting from illegal immigration in the United States.: [link to www.immigrationcounters.com] arizona rest area: [link to www.snopes.com] Do Not Weep! TAKE ACTION!!!!!!!: [link to capwiz.com] [link to www.numbersusa.com] here's a congressional switchboard 800 number: 1 800 828 0498 Beware illegal aliens; the sleeping giant is waking up and your days are numbered. conservativeoutpost.com... [link to conservativeoutpost.com] |
| anonymous User ID: 819733 United States11/16/2009 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4 million tax paying americans have already sent congress members pink slip notifications.. the voluem of pink slip grows daily from americas tax payer .. Each in congress is getting pink slips now from americas tax payers from the poor job they have done for decades ..amercans are fed up with a congress who tax and spent america middleclass tax payers nearly into the gutter for decades ..... worldnetdaily.com has the whole story . and then some.......you will be stuned . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 801926 United States11/16/2009 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the government knows about the illegals..and they are living and working here, sending their children to school here, driving to work, etc. Why not make them all legal? That way everybody pays their fair share of taxes and are bound by the law of the land. This has got to be the only country in the world that allows illegals to work .. and then turns a blind eye when it comes to them paying taxes. It's ridiculous! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776591 United States11/16/2009 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Round the fuckers up and dump them back in Methico. Then mine the frigging border so they don't come back. Have a hunting season to clean out the rest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 456756I just love how you people love to exercise selective freedom. You claim to love freedom but you clearly only want freedom to apply to people or groups that you consider worthy. Thankfully that is not the way that works. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 799163 United States11/16/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your draconian measures are simply not needed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776591Lets look at the facts. 1. Children of immigrants always assumlate just like you want, they are generally not even bilingual and love to be american dicks, you have to get over people speaking other languages. 2. History will show that the fist group of immigrants to the country are always slow to assumlate. 3. Business that hire illegals are the real source of the problem. However its just the nature of our system for business to want to hire the cheapest labor possible. So you are right on about what needs to be done in this case. In the end the gigantic bureaucracy you want to deal with the "undesirables" will cost more than what we are doing now. We dont need more police looking for more reasons to imprison people. Illegal immigration is simply not a major issue compared to other issues we have. I would encourage you to worry about yourself instead of what other are doing. Complete and utter bullshit. Of course it's not an issue to you people, you need illegal voters. Let me see.. I'm an American. Guess what happens to me if I want to go live in Mexico illegally.. my ass, my ENGLISH SPEAKING ass goes to jail. I don't get shit. I don't get free any fucking thing.. I get jail. That's right.. and guess what else I don't get I don't get a free lawyer who speaks English telling the judge I should have a right to vote, free housing, free health care, a fucking translator, a job, free food, free any damn thing else I think I should have. AND.. I don't get to stand on the side of the road flipping off Mexicans as I collect all my free shit from being in Mexico as an illegal! I'd get jail.. simple as that. Why is it that America has to bend over and take it up the ass for illegals? We shouldn't.. and I won't. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776591 United States11/16/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see no racism here - but I do see stupidity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801926If the government knows about the illegals..and they are living and working here, sending their children to school here, driving to work, etc. Why not make them all legal? That way everybody pays their fair share of taxes and are bound by the law of the land. This has got to be the only country in the world that allows illegals to work .. and then turns a blind eye when it comes to them paying taxes. It's ridiculous! WOW you want to freak the bigots out even more, propose that we make them legals. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 799163 United States11/16/2009 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just love how you people love to exercise selective freedom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776591You claim to love freedom but you clearly only want freedom to apply to people or groups that you consider worthy. Thankfully that is not the way that works. Freedom for ILLEGAL behavior. Excuse me, why do we have jails? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776591 United States11/16/2009 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Complete and utter bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 799163Of course it's not an issue to you people, you need illegal voters. Let me see.. I'm an American. Guess what happens to me if I want to go live in Mexico illegally.. my ass, my ENGLISH SPEAKING ass goes to jail. I don't get shit. I don't get free any fucking thing.. I get jail. That's right.. and guess what else I don't get I don't get a free lawyer who speaks English telling the judge I should have a right to vote, free housing, free health care, a fucking translator, a job, free food, free any damn thing else I think I should have. AND.. I don't get to stand on the side of the road flipping off Mexicans as I collect all my free shit from being in Mexico as an illegal! I'd get jail.. simple as that. Why is it that America has to bend over and take it up the ass for illegals? We shouldn't.. and I won't. Wait, how do i need illegal voters? Your narrow reality tunnel is distorting your thought process.. Look im sorry that the system does not seem fair to you. I thought as an american you would be used to inequality by now. America is not taking up the ass for illegals, that i just a silly statement only to be trumped by your other even more silly "and i wont" statement. You are not being effected by illegals you just want to hate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 799163 United States11/16/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait, how do i need illegal voters? Your narrow reality tunnel is distorting your thought process.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776591Look im sorry that the system does not seem fair to you. I thought as an american you would be used to inequality by now. America is not taking up the ass for illegals, that i just a silly statement only to be trumped by your other even more silly "and i wont" statement. You are not being effected by illegals you just want to hate. Bitch please. Who are you kidding? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776591 United States11/16/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been five years since we had a raise in pay And they disallowed my business lunches today Somebody must have changed the rules of the game So we've found a convenient scapegoat we can blame It's those teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (They're too lazy to work) Teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (They're stealing our jobs) Somebody ran this country deep into debt I called up Congress, but nobody's called back yet Sometimes I get so mad I can't think straight We're looking for relief and it feels so great to hate All those teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (They're on the Dole) Teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (They're speaking espanol) Who's to blame for the things we're so angry about? Who's to blame for uprisings, downsizings, and the drought? Who's to blame for the end of the good old days? Who's to blame for that backwards-cap-wearing craze? It's those teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (Let's build a thousand-mile fence) Teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (It's just common sense) Teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (Like the Berlin Wall) Teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs (Land mines and all!) Teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 458781 United States11/16/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illegal immigrants on welfare: fact or fiction? Illegal immigrants swarm into our country and quickly jump on the welfare rolls. They cost hard-working U.S. citizens billions and billions of dollars in taxes because of this subsidy. That's a familiar, easy charge leveled by critics of illegal immigration. But is it fact or fiction? It's actually a myth, according to the Congressional Research Service, the investigative arm of Congress. This point is highlighted as one of the "top five immigration myths of the campaign season," a list put out by the American Immigration Lawyers Association. Here's their look at welfare: MYTH #3: The nation spends billions of dollars on welfare for undocumented immigrants. FACTS: To the contrary, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive any "welfare" benefits and even legal immigrants are severely restricted in the benefits they can receive. As the Congressional Research Service points out in a 2007 report, undocumented immigrants, who comprise nearly one-third of all immigrants in the country, are not eligible to receive public "welfare" benefits -- ever. Legal permanent residents (LPRs) must pay into the Social Security and Medicare systems for approximately 10 years before they are eligible to receive benefits when they retire. In most cases, LPRs can not receive SSI, which is available only to U.S. citizens, and are not eligible for means-tested public benefits until 5 years after receiving their green cards. A 2007 analysis of welfare data by researchers at the Urban Institute reveals that less than 1 percent of households headed by undocumented immigrants receive cash assistance for needy families, compared to 5 percent of households headed by native-born U.S. citizens. A 2007 analysis of U.S. Census data by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities makes clear that it is the U.S.-born, U.S.-citizen children of undocumented immigrants who are eligible for programs such as Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). The analysis found that, between 1995 and 2005, the share of low-income, non- citizen immigrant children (either undocumented or legally present) who received Medicaid or SCHIP dropped from 36 percent to 30 percent. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 801926 United States11/16/2009 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see no racism here - but I do see stupidity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776591If the government knows about the illegals..and they are living and working here, sending their children to school here, driving to work, etc. Why not make them all legal? That way everybody pays their fair share of taxes and are bound by the law of the land. This has got to be the only country in the world that allows illegals to work .. and then turns a blind eye when it comes to them paying taxes. It's ridiculous! WOW you want to freak the bigots out even more, propose that we make them legals. Yes. And why not? For those who see the color of someone's skin (or culture) as the problem..then there is no reasonable recourse. It's silly, people can't change who they are. And shouldn't be punished ...unless they break the law. Thinking rationally here..if they're already in this country and employed..let them share in the responsibility that all citizens have to abide by. For those that are unemployed..now that's a different matter. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 776591 United States11/16/2009 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thinking rationally here..if they're already in this country and employed..let them share in the responsibility that all citizens have to abide by. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801926For those that are unemployed..now that's a different matter. That is the entire problem, there is little rational thinking being used with this "debate". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 801926 United States11/16/2009 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see no racism here - but I do see stupidity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801926If the government knows about the illegals..and they are living and working here, sending their children to school here, driving to work, etc. Why not make them all legal? That way everybody pays their fair share of taxes and are bound by the law of the land. This has got to be the only country in the world that allows illegals to work .. and then turns a blind eye when it comes to them paying taxes. It's ridiculous! WOW you want to freak the bigots out even more, propose that we make them legals. I need to add..since the U.S. government illegally bound us to Mexico and Canada..it's not ever going to change. The U.S. will continue to allow illegals into the country. So..why bother with the whole 'illegal status?' make them citizens. And let them stand side by side next to the rest of us and pay their taxes! Yes. And why not? For those who see the color of someone's skin (or culture) as the problem..then there is no reasonable recourse. It's silly, people can't change who they are. And shouldn't be punished ...unless they break the law. Thinking rationally here..if they're already in this country and employed..let them share in the responsibility that all citizens have to abide by. For those that are unemployed..now that's a different matter. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 799163 United States11/16/2009 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who see the color of someone's skin (or culture) as the problem..then there is no reasonable recourse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801926It's silly, people can't change who they are. And shouldn't be punished ...unless they break the law. This is how I know liberals-democrats are actually retarded. "unless they break the law". By the fact that illegal immigrates are in the country ILLEGALLY, means they have broken the law. Illegal Aliens. I L L E G A L: Forbidden by law or statute. Contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 458781 United States11/16/2009 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see no racism here - but I do see stupidity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801926If the government knows about the illegals..and they are living and working here, sending their children to school here, driving to work, etc. Why not make them all legal? That way everybody pays their fair share of taxes and are bound by the law of the land. This has got to be the only country in the world that allows illegals to work .. and then turns a blind eye when it comes to them paying taxes. It's ridiculous! WOW you want to freak the bigots out even more, propose that we make them legals. Yes. And why not? For those who see the color of someone's skin (or culture) as the problem..then there is no reasonable recourse. It's silly, people can't change who they are. And shouldn't be punished ...unless they break the law. Thinking rationally here..if they're already in this country and employed..let them share in the responsibility that all citizens have to abide by. For those that are unemployed..now that's a different matter. |
