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Wow! Saudis 'in a panic mode' as Shi'ite rebels move North from Yemen

 
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Jordan has sent several hundred troops from its special operations forces to help the Saudi military with its many Shi'ite units contain the Yemeni Shi'ite rebellion, which has spread deep into the Arab kingdom. ShareThis

Western intelligence sources said Jordan's King Abdullah sent the SOF units to Saudi Arabia in November 2009. The sources said the Jordanian king was acting on an urgent request from his Saudi counterpart for elite soldiers who could hunt for Iranian-backed Shi'ite rebels in both Saudi Arabia and northern Yemen.

"The Saudis are in a panic mode and don't have the troops or capabilities to stop the Yemeni Shi'ites," an intelligence source said.


The sources said Riyad's need for foreign forces stemmed from a refusal by Shi'ite-dominated Saudi units to fight the Believing Youth. They said this has led to the dismantling of several local security units familiar with the Saudi-Yemeni border.

Saudi officials have not confirmed the assertion of the Western intelligence sources. But on Nov. 27, Saudi Deputy Defense Minister Prince Khaled Bin Sultan acknowledged that Yemeni Shi'ite fighters held at least two southern Saudi villages for nearly a month. Later, officials said 15,000 Saudis had been evacuated from their homes.

The sources said Jordan has been the only Arab League state to respond to Saudi appeals for help in fighting the Iranian-backed Believing Youth movement. Believing Youth has been fighting an intermittent war in northern Yemen since 2004, but in November 2009 invaded southern Saudi Arabia and captured several border villages.

"The Saudi air force has been heavily bombing villages inside Yemen, but this has not made a dent in the capabilities of the Shi'ite rebels," the source said. "They have been well-trained by Iran and Hizbullah and have moved steadily north in Saudi Arabia."

The Saudi military has focused on trying to impose a blockade on northern Yemen. The Royal Saudi Naval Forces has bolstered its presence with at least four fast attack craft and missile boats and reported the destruction of weapons smuggling ships from neighboring Somalia.

"The infiltrating terrorists intended to attack our nation when they encroached upon our territories and terrorized our peaceful people," King Abdullah said in an address to his troops. "Undeterred by religion or ethical values, the intruders shed the blood of the people."

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I must repeat. The only way you can win a war against insurgants is NOT BY CARPET BOMBING or an bombing from the air at all. It takes massive amounts of troops on the ground numbering in the millions.
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I'm surprised this hasn't had more attention. If the insurgency were to succeed, the oil flow to the west would surely be under threat, unless the Yemenis just want to become fat, rich oil barons. Thin end of the wedge too, imo.
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iran is on the move with some serious A-Team terror militias . and serious weapontry options . Saudi built a western oil terminal in case iran blocks the Straights of Hormuz from oil tanker traffic .it wil take bout 4 extra days longer for oil tanker delivery .it is on Saudi Western Borders . since bat shit iran threatens oil delivery to 40 percent of the globe by wrecking straights of hormuz ..
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Re: Wow! Saudis 'in a panic mode' as Shi'ite rebels move North from Yemen
I'm surprised this hasn't had more attention. If the insurgency were to succeed, the oil flow to the west would surely be under threat, unless the Yemenis just want to become fat, rich oil barons. Thin end of the wedge too, imo.
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The saudis oil has less than 3 years to go then they will be left own there own in this war no oil no help.
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Pin!

4+ days of really high oil prices, coming soon to a pump near you.
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this is probably the most important story of the day...bump
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bump
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boring
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how long before they ask for u.s./u.k. assistance? Is that in the cards?
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Wouldn't Iran and Yemen make natural allies for the west against the enemy Sunnis of Saudi Arabia and the Wahabi Sunnis of Al Qaeda?

Why are they hunting sunnis, but shunning shia?

What did they expect to happen in Iraq - shia take over?
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Wouldn't Iran and Yemen make natural allies for the west against the enemy Sunnis of Saudi Arabia and the Wahabi Sunnis of Al Qaeda?

Why are they hunting sunnis, but shunning shia?

What did they expect to happen in Iraq - shia take over?
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that and you got all the tribal/cousins cross connections-hard to go either/or -complicated allegegances.
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Re: Wow! Saudis 'in a panic mode' as Shi'ite rebels move North from Yemen
Basically the Saudi ground troops that will actually fight are hopeless and the Houthis won the ground battles decisively, picking up the weapons the Saudis drop to keep going.


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They stupidly persist in bombing the Yemeni towns; that will be answered with the looting and destruction of their own towns.
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I'm surprised this hasn't had more attention. If the insurgency were to succeed, the oil flow to the west would surely be under threat, unless the Yemenis just want to become fat, rich oil barons. Thin end of the wedge too, imo.
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Very true.
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Talk about ones chickens coming home to roost!

The Saudis have been bankrolling terrorist cells for decades and using our money to do it.
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Yemen rose sharply up the regional security agenda in August when the government launched Operation Scorched Earth against Muslim Shi'ite rebels in the north, prompting the bloodiest episode in a conflict dating back to 2004.

It rose higher still this month when rebels seized some Saudi territory, killing two border guards, and accused Riyadh of allowing Yemeni forces to use Saudi land as a launchpad for their attacks against them.

Saudi Arabia responded by launching a military assault on the rebels -- known as the Houthis after the clan of their leader -- and enforced a 10 km (six mile) deep buffer zone inside Yemen to keep rebels away from its southwestern border.

The violence has displaced more than 170,000 civilians, who face malnutrition and cholera, the United Nations says.

The rebels, from the minority Zaidi sect of Shi'ism, say they face political, economic and religious discrimination from the Yemeni government, which they accuse of favouring the radicals among the Sunni majority who lean towards Saudi Arabia's puritanical Wahhabi Islam.

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In case you haven't noticed the Saudi military has the capacity to protect two houses and a car. It is a barracks force. The Saudi's are extremely dependent on foreign forces to help protect the Kingdom. There are probably a couple of reasons for this. First, the King and retinue don't trust their fellow countrymen very much sort of the King today gone tomorrow complex. Secondly, the Saudi's because of Mecca and Medina two of the holiest places for Islam have previously been immune to the constant warfare between the Muslim sects. Enter the Iranian leadership who don't give a shit about anything other than assuming the leadership of the region and whatever that takes. Mahmoud SABOURJIAN and his buddies are nothing more than the Genghis Khan's of this century with one exception Khan was outfront lopping off heads these ASSHOLES use proxies to do their dirty work while all the time claiming the high ground.
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bump for a pin MODS! This is Iranian retaliation for the perception that Saudi would allow Israeli planes to use their airspace. But the deeper problem here is that the Iranians are salivating at the thought of possibly taking control of Saudi through this proxy force!
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Iran is a busy little bee.
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Iran urges Riyadh to aim at Israel

TEHRAN, Dec. 7 (UPI) -- The military of Saudi Arabia should turn its weapons on Israel rather than take on Shiite rebels battling the Yemeni government, Iranian officials said.


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Iran is a busy little bee.
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Yes, they certainly are. And so much for the peaceful landscape if only the US and Israel would not interfere. It's going to be hard to blame this muslim infighting on others the way they always try to do.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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whatever
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This is Iranian retaliation for the perception that Saudi would allow Israeli planes to use their airspace. But the deeper problem here is that the Iranians are salivating at the thought of possibly taking control of Saudi through this proxy force!
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Exactly. If they start gaining too much much ground Saudi Arabia may ask Israel to do something to Iran.
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Shi'ite rebels in Yemen claim they destroyed three U.S.-origin Saudi tanks
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5a

Do not forget that Saudi is a base for huge amounts of US military equipment as well as the way out of Iraq should the ME turn any uglier than it already is.
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As long as the Arabs are fighting among themselves the chosen ones in Israel have zip to worry about.

Nothing to see here.
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lots here also

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The saudis oil has less than 3 years to go then they will be left own there own in this war no oil no help.
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Wow, some people really need to learn how to write a simple sentence. The sad part is I am sure he is an American, god bless the USA.
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I must repeat. The only way you can win a war against insurgants is NOT BY CARPET BOMBING or an bombing from the air at all. It takes massive amounts of troops on the ground numbering in the millions.
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Troop surge! Troop surge (frothing @ the mouth...looking like a zombie!"
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And get their facts straight





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