Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.

WoW, great thread!

:5stars:

Thanks, one of the more original and strange theories presented by a well respected scientist in his field. I just brought it to the forums, Dr. Perrat and his team did all the work.

>>> but Dr. Perrat does not seem to mention phosphenes in his work.
And rock art has been connected to phosphenes.
[link to breakfornews.com]

NASA studies phosphenes.
And today phosphenes are helping blind people to see.

And the other dunderbolts at Thunderbolts are kind of ignorant about 12,000+ year old swastika too, saying its geometry is a non issue.
That is why I call those wankers at Thunderbolts dunderbolts.
The swastika was connected to lightning and thunder.

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 01/15/2012 12:38 PM

As a reguler poster on the thunderbolts forum, I could be annoyed at such an insulting comment, but as it takes one to recognise one , I will view Your post so.
The swastika is detectable via dowsing at many nodal points in the geometry of the matrix.
That geometry creates inward and outward vortex points of least resistance.
gravitor

But do they break through under these proposed plasma conditions could this be how god got here from his asylum bed in one of the other dimensions!?

Dave Talbot has too much invested in his BS pet peeve called Saturn.
He fails to see the obvious.

To say the swastika is a non-issue when discussing symbols is a joke plain and simple.
And he said that, to me on the dunderbolts forum.

First take a look at Perratts images on page 1204.
[link to www.scribd.com]

Then take a look at this image.
What do we see on Mithra's chest?
It is a 'thunderbolt'.
[link to egodeath.com]

What do we find on the Buddha's chest?
[link to www.clearwisdom.net]

What do we find on Apollo's chest?
[link to i98.photobucket.com]

And how difficult would it be to find evidence that some cultures linked the swastika to lightning, thunder, clouds, whirlpools, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.?

Dave Talbot and his Saturn theory is missing a vital piece to the big picture.

Olde world truth >>>
God = YHVH = tetragrammaton = swastika

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 01/15/2012 02:38 PM

you cannot discuss the VORTEX without thinking about the swirly twirly swastika.
[link to www.toequest.com]

A spiral with 4 curved arms = a swastika with 4 angular arms/legs
A spiral with 3 curved arms = a swastika with 3 angular arms/legs

A spiral with 5 curved arms = our home called the Milky Way (a reality where the swastika makes the galaxy go round and round)

But down here on planet earth it is egos like Dave Talbot who cannot see what has been veiled in plain view.
>>> [link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]

I can see though why he is in denial.
He has been working on his theory since the 70s.

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 01/15/2012 02:36 PM

What if there was nothing for them to observe, untill we detonated nuclear bombs. Said detonation opens a worm hole back to caveman and voila he sees plasma for an instance then recreates what he saw the only way he can. Since nothing survives in the middle of the blast we can never know

Raphael,
Thank You for the links.
I actually agree with You about the swastika, and keep Myself down in the mad ideas section on thunderbolts.
Be more specific about who You label silly names, otherwise it will spiral back at You.
Do You know what a gravitor is?
Do You know of the descriptive word ANU?
gravitor

Forgot link to ANU
[link to www.greatdreams.com]
That is how I detect the field about humans, and all other things in creation, but humans /horses and cattle have large diameter such fields.
gravitor

for later reading. Interesting stuff.

Well gravitor seems to be a word you made up to support your theory?

What does gravitor mean?
Does it have anything to do with a graviton or gravy train?

namaste

[link to www.geeman-headquarters.com]
TT Brown.
Gravitor

Forgot to check this thread, wasn't on my list anymore.

Phosphenes aren't mentioned because it's not part of his job. Those dunderbolts are just believers, they're so in love with the belief of an electric universe they only confuse themselves and other people and give plasma cosmology a bad name. They're not smart enough to understand plasma, only electricity.

Mechanical and electrical stimulation that causes them is interesting however not as interesting as this;

Other causes

Phosphenes have also been created by intense, changing magnetic fields, such as with transcranial magnetic stimulation. These fields can be positioned on different parts of the head to stimulate cells in different parts of the visual system. They also can be induced by alternating currents that entrain neural oscillation as with trancranial alternating-current stimulation. In this case they appear in the peripheral visual field.

Astronauts exposed to radiation in space report seeing phosphenes.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Which makes sense because if the event(s) depicted in rock at was so bright it caused people to close their eyes the magnetic fields of the plasma could have affected their minds and caused them to see also. Sounds like that god helmet they have which induces visions and hallucinations along with euphoric feelings.

And also could explain why they found people tend to dream more on nights when there is a geomagnetic storm, can't find the article right now however.

Last Edited by Plasmare on 01/28/2012 07:42 PM

That could make a good sci fi story but it's just not feasible. Good idea though. It's more likely that they witnessed (worldwide) a light show of plasma like the aurora than a huge nuke going off that can be seen around the world. The reason a nuclear bomb creates plasma is because it produces ionizing radiation and extreme heat and turns the atmosphere into plasma, hence why they were worried that the entire atmosphere may ignite.

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]

There are many new discoveries in the past couple of years which show that plasma is a predominant force in the universe and for our way of life on Earth. Scientists have known that at least 99.9% of the VISIBLE universe is in the state of plasma. They have known our atmosphere is a plasma for many decades now but just can't see it. They don't yet understand how these hot and "cold" (or cooler) plasmas affect us and how they interact with the solar wind, CMEs and flares from the sun and what their effects on our planet actually are... But it seems like ancient people did.

Bunch of PDF articles Perrat has on his website.

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

I'll make a separate thread for these later.

If you find the article let me know.

namaste

So I wonder if the 'faster than light' neutral neutrino are the elementary particle that make up the aether/plasma field?
[link to www.cbc.ca]

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 02/24/2012 07:57 AM

The speed of light is not a constant... the c merely represents the speed of light in space and since space is filled with a plasma medium, the speed of light is actually a reflection of the speed of light in plasma. You could easily change the speed of light by changing the medium. But for now what scientists consider a vacuum is actually not empty at all, it's filled with plasma. There is no true vacuum, that would just be a non-existent void.

The speed of light is the limit we've so far seen of the speed of information. Only matter can be a plasma since it's another state of matter and matter is comprised of the particles that make up the elements we know.

update nasa/cern

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Compare this image to the location of the so called 13th zodiac, Ophiuchus, a man and a serpent.

[link to astrobob.areavoices.com]

Isn't it odd how it's a perfect fit to a missing zodiac? The exact same place the interstellar wind flows into our solar system, something no human could have known until we discovered this fact recently.

"The signs of the zodiac have roots in mythology and relate to the legend of how the 12 Olympian gods took animal shapes to flee the monster Typhon who was causing havoc on Earth."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Look into the myth of typhon and it's all to do with serpents and fire. Serpents and fire, makes you wonder doesn't it. Makes you wonder what really happened that made almost the entire human race forget an event (or events) that were seen worldwide. The information should still exist today, even if it has been diluted in myth and lost in the ages.

Trying to figure out what the truth is in myth and what it represented back then is like trying to explain email to an ancient person. Impossible without first making them understand how the world is in a way they can understand from their perspective.

The people who drew them were just some losers who succumbed to the Lord. That's all.

This has nothing to do with the ancient people who witnessed the event(s) in the skies but rather the event(s) itself. Obviously this is beyond your understanding. I don't think you can even comprehend glowing plasma enveloping almost the entire world much less the cause or effects.

DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSION
That mankind in antiquity did witness and record the effects
and images from an intense solar outburst lasting many years
can be deduced by the records that have endured, for the most
part very little changed, over the millennia [39]–[42].
With the advent of high-energy-density Z-pinches and
associated diagnostics, high-resolution high-fidelity threespatial-
dimension electromagnetic particle-in-cell simulations
on terahertz computers, and the development of global instrumentation
systems, facilities, and instrumentation over the past
decade, it has become possible to perform the physics and
observations necessary to support suggestions that an intense
solar outburst and its effects were observed by mankind in
the past.
That the outbursts were extreme is witnessed by the carving
on rock of MHD images on rock worldwide, not unlike the
eyewitness accounts of “a thousand fantastic figures, as if
painted with fire on a black background” from the September
1859 solar storm [43], less energetic than that discussed in
this paper.
The so-called “rib-cage” structures most often found in
petroglyphs are a distinct signature of self-similar skeletal
structures identified in space plasmas [44]. These petroglyphs
are often interpreted as actual objects of anthropological significance
relating to cultural behaviors worldwide.
The meaning and creation of petroglyphs in standard accounts,
i.e., anthropological, trance metaphors, symbolism, histories,
and religions, are not expected to have any correlation
with a preferred FOV or astrometric factors as proposed here.
One of the authors (A. H. Qöyawayma) notes that “Shaman” is
a term not used among the Hopi and is unaware if this concept
has any relation to petroglyphs in other Native American cultures.
Another of the authors (J. McGovern) recalls the words
of the anthropologist C. P. Mountford when visiting Red Gorge,
South Australia, for the first time in 1937: “To my surprise, the
aborigines did not recognize those rock engravings as human
handiwork, even though they must have passed through that
gorge many times on their hunting journeys.” This suggested
to him that petroglyphs were a long-forgotten art [45].
Even in our space-plasma account, one might expect plasma
columns under very intense geomagnetic-storm conditions to
occur near both magnetic poles just as contemporary aurora
occur at both poles for comparatively modest storm conditions.
However, we find that petroglyph distributions have no north
FOV preference (Section XIII). Standard accounts should be
independent of such orientation factors except for the sun
angle that affects lighting on available rock surfaces. Moreover,
lighting from the Sun would have to explain the SFOV in both
the northern and southern hemispheres.
Furthermore, “blinders” (Section II-A) should have no correlation
with petroglyph distributions nor should an “angle of
inclination.” Indeed, as shown in Section XVI, preliminary
analysis indicates that the worldwide petroglyph distribution
and FOV data enable us to reconstruct the intense plasma
column that our model predicts for very intense magnetic
storms that occur over the millennia. In a later paper, we will
carry out more detailed reconstruction and plasma modeling
and show how very intense auroral events were recorded by
methods other than carving petroglyphs.


nice stuff very very tasty ...

more at link [link to docs.google.com (secure)]

Last Edited by SPUD on 08/22/2012 11:52 AM

The second .PDF shows the reconstructed image of the event. It's nothing like we've ever seen before in our modern age, perhaps not even in the last 40,000 years. I'm not sure if anyone can say with any certainty when the petroglyphs were carved. Personally I'd have thought this whole concept was too bizarre and unlikely if the research wasn't conducted by a leader in plasma physics and not to mention the fact it took years and MILLIONS of such carvings all cataloged by GPS coordinates.

After all the doubts and fears...After all these questions without answers...After these dreams without substance...I journeyed home...One more mile...Just one more mile

~S. King~

More posts of this qulatiy. Not the usual c***, please