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Greetings -
I've been working on the IBEX mission for 4 years now. It is great to see all the discussion generated here! This is really the kind of thing that makes one think it's been worthwhile. There are a number of open questions about the nature of the ribbon, and also the local interstellar medium. The Voyager passes through the termination shock left a few big questions as well, namely why the solar wind is supersonic on both sides of the shock and why the ACR flux didn't peak at the shock as predicted by a shock acceleration model of ACR generation. Everybody in the community knows that these are plasmas, and so by definition dominated by electromagnetic forces. However, there is still a lot of work to do on both observation and theory. So, I will keep checking back here for new ideas If anyone has any specific questions on the IBEX measurements I'd be glad to help if I can. Thanks!

thur. nov 26 2009
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Thank you. I had to look up what IBEX was. If you could do a simplistic outline of what has been discovered to date (in layman's terms...please); state your feelings on the effects of plasma on earth and it's inhabitants.



Just a quick note what IBEX for those that were like me, unaware of this program.

[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]

If we could see Our Heliosphere, What would our Home in the Galaxy look like?

Local Interstellar Medium Image

The Sun and solar system move through a part of the galaxy referred to as the local interstellar medium. It is built up from material released from the stars of our galaxy through stellar winds, novae, and supernovae. The interstellar medium has considerable structure as illustrated here. IBEX images reveal global properties of the interstellar boundaries that separate our heliosphere from the local interstellar medium.


Relation to Voyager

The Voyager 1 (V1) satellite crossed the Termination Shock (TS) on December 16th, 2004 at a distance of 94 AU
Before crossing the TS, Voyager 1 observed increases in the intensity of the lowest energy energetic particles it could observe. On December 16th, Voyager 1 recorded a variety of observations that support a shock crossing the intensities of the low-energy energetic particles increased as Voyager 1 approached the TS, consistent with beaming along magnetic field lines connected to the TS (Burlaga et al., 2005). Near day 355, V1 also observed an abrupt increase in the magnetic field strength (as shown in the figure below to the right from Burlaga et al., 2005) as well as increased levels of compressive turbulence. The simultaneous jumps in magnetic field strength and energetic particle intensities proved to the scientific community that Voyager 1 had in fact crossed the termination shock.

Intensities of energetic termination shock particles
Based on Voyager 1's magnetic field and energetic particle observations, and our knowledge of solar wind shocks, it is inferred that the bulk velocity of the solar wind must have also dropped suddenly when Voyager 1 crossed the TS. Unfortunately the plasma detector on Voyager 1 failed early in the mission, so it is impossible to get a direct measurement of the decrease in velocity. Voyager 2 is, however, approaching the termination shock and it continues to provide accurate plasma velocity measurements. It is hoped, and highly likely, that Voyager 2 will soon make the first direct measurements of the flows in the heliosheath.

(more at link)


One more link to explain more about how crowded space really is:

[link to www.universetoday.com]

Space is far from empty. The Solar System can be viewed as a "bubble" of solar matter – filled with particles emitted by the Sun as the solar wind – extending well beyond the orbit of Pluto. The solar wind velocity is supersonic for most of this distance (exceeding a million miles per hour), but the point at which it begins to interact with the interstellar medium (ISM), the solar wind drops to subsonic velocities, creating a region of compression known as the termination shock. After 26 years of flight, the Voyager 1 deep space probe entered this bizarre, turbulent region of space, where solar particles build up and magnetic fields become twisted. Now a new mission has been designed to watch this region of space from afar to begin to understand the boundary of our solar system, where violent turbulence rules and high-energy atoms are generated… (more at link)
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More from the same link previous:

[link to www.universetoday.com]

IBEX is part of NASA's Small Explorer program (SMEX), where inexpensive, small probes are used to efficiently observe particular cosmic phenomena. IBEX will be orbiting beyond the influence of the Earth's magnetic field (the magnetosphere) at a 200,000 mile distance from the Earth. This is because the phenomenon IBEX will be observing can be generated by our own magnetic field. So what will IBEX be measuring?

To understand the interaction between solar wind ions and the interstellar medium, IBEX will use two sensors to detect energetic neutral atoms (ENAs) being blasted from the outermost reaches of the solar system.

How are ENAs generated and how are they a measurement of the interaction between the heliosphere and the ISM? Out there in the ISM exists neutral atoms and ions. As the solar system passes through interstellar space, the strong magnetic field generated around the heliosphere deflects the charged ions, pushing them out of the way. However, slow-moving neutral atoms are not affected by the magnetic field and penetrate deep into the heliosheath.

When this happens, these neutral atoms from the ISM interact with energetic protons (which do have charge) rapidly spiralling along the magnetic field embedded in the solar wind.

When this interaction occurs (known as charge exchange), an electron is stripped from the ISM atom and attracted to the energetic solar wind proton, thus making it neutral.

When this exchange occurs, an energetic hydrogen atom (electron and proton) is ejected. An ENA is born.


Now, this is where the clever bit comes in. As mentioned before, neutral atoms do not "feel" magnetic fields, so when ENAs are created they are ejected in a straight line.

Some of these atoms will be directed toward the Earth. IBEX will then measure these ENAs and work out where they came from. As they will have travelled directly to IBEX, the location of the termination shock may be deduced.

Over a period of time, IBEX will be able to build up a picture of the locations of these atomic interactions and relate them the characteristics of the boundary of our Solar System.

But the best thing is, we won't need to send a probe into deep space and wait for decades before it traverses the boundary layer, we will be able to make these measurements from Earth orbit. Such an exciting mission
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I can sort of understand the first hypothesis of the pyramid having something to do with measuring harmonic resonance. Somehow I intuited that when I was doing some of my own research a few years ago. Something just came together for me that made me see that.


The second one, Ozone generation, I don't understand. WHY would we need to create ozone?
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Maybe it wasn't Ozone (ozone could have been a byproduct) BUT
Has our answer just been delivered? the"energetic hydrogen atom"

Did the pre-dynastic Egyptians (the Khemitians, who inherited their knowledge from the Atlanteans, who inherited their knowledge from the Lemurians, who inherited ....) know how to harness and control the Energetic Hydrogen Atom (Plasma).

Our 'modern' chronology of history is lacking in detail, it very much parallels our knowledge of the Sciences - the deeper we look, the more we find.

The End of the Golden Age
There has been a general consensus though that there was a global cataclysmic event around 11,500 years ago which severely altered geophysical and climatological conditions around the world. Before this Great Deluge, did we have knowledge of the 4 states of matter: Solids, Liquids, Gases and Plasma?

Did we understand Plasma during these 'Golden Ages' the ages of 'enlightenment'? Did we have devices that could help us construct the pyramids?

I believe that this cataclysmic event is what destroyed the function of the Pyramid. The civilization that survived had to 'relearn' everything. We are part of this 'recorded' history.

I make a distinction and emphasis, that the civilization that inherited Egypt, lacked the tools and knowledge to build the pyramids.

Also .. Golden Age = Pre-Cataclysm

So what was the Function of the Pyramid?
Vibration - Harmonic Resonance - Regulating Human EM waves. Regulating TIME .. the pulse like a Ticking CLOCK .. is this how we measured TIME? Tick Tick Tick.
The materials used in the Great Pyramids were very well chosen for their Harmonic qualities. Alabaster, Limestone, Granite.

Watch the full length John Cadman videos .. Feel the Pulse.





But just Acoustic sound is not enough to explain HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO CARVE AND MOVE SUCH MASSIVE BLOCKS.

The materials used also have Magnetic and hence electric properties too. The superstructure of the Kings Chamber is made for Quartz rich Granite in a Suspended formation. They way it's constructed is like a musical instrument.

Why would you need an electro-magnetic-acoustic chamber?

When this exchange occurs, an energetic hydrogen atom (electron and proton) is ejected. An ENA is born.

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I can sort of understand the first hypothesis of the pyramid having something to do with measuring harmonic resonance. Somehow I intuited that when I was doing some of my own research a few years ago. Something just came together for me that made me see that.


The second one, Ozone generation, I don't understand. WHY would we need to create ozone?


Maybe it wasn't Ozone (ozone could have been a byproduct) BUT
Has our answer just been delivered? the"energetic hydrogen atom"

Did the pre-dynastic Egyptians (the Khemitians, who inherited their knowledge from the Atlanteans, who inherited their knowledge from the Lemurians, who inherited ....) know how to harness and control the Energetic Hydrogen Atom (Plasma).

Our 'modern' chronology of history is lacking in detail, it very much parallels our knowledge of the Sciences - the deeper we look, the more we find.

The End of the Golden Age
There has been a general consensus though that there was a global cataclysmic event around 11,500 years ago which severely altered geophysical and climatological conditions around the world. Before this Great Deluge, did we have knowledge of the 4 states of matter: Solids, Liquids, Gases and Plasma?

Did we understand Plasma during these 'Golden Ages' the ages of 'enlightenment'? Did we have devices that could help us construct the pyramids?

I believe that this cataclysmic event is what destroyed the function of the Pyramid. The civilization that survived had to 'relearn' everything. We are part of this 'recorded' history.

I make a distinction and emphasis, that the civilization that inherited Egypt, lacked the tools and knowledge to build the pyramids.

Also .. Golden Age = Pre-Cataclysm

So what was the Function of the Pyramid?
Vibration - Harmonic Resonance - Regulating Human EM waves. Regulating TIME .. the pulse like a Ticking CLOCK .. is this how we measured TIME? Tick Tick Tick.
The materials used in the Great Pyramids were very well chosen for their Harmonic qualities. Alabaster, Limestone, Granite.

Watch the full length John Cadman videos .. Feel the Pulse.





But just Acoustic sound is not enough to explain HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO CARVE AND MOVE SUCH MASSIVE BLOCKS.

The materials used also have Magnetic and hence electric properties too. The superstructure of the Kings Chamber is made for Quartz rich Granite in a Suspended formation. They way it's constructed is like a musical instrument.

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Okay. So obviously technology is not the "purpose" here is it? I agree that the ancients likely had understanding of plasma physics. It seems obvious to me.
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the contact with NASA is more than a greeting
it`s the first signal that our minds are meeting
disclosure is not just what you imagine it will be
and the powers that be also had to wait patiently
but now we have their acceptance not fear
progress will move up and not just a gear
you will be informed as they and others interact
for now please be peaceful, relax and sit back
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Thanks for the links to Dragon Lines and to David Yarrow.

I found a link to his site with the images .. Beautiful.

[link to www.dyarrow.org]

....

To Add to our EM being senario:

The shape of a healthy red blood cell is a flat disk with hollow faces—what we have if we wrap a membrane around a donut. This is highly suggestive of a magnetic function, since a donut is the shape of a magnetic field. We know red cells are rich in iron (Fe), a naturally magnetic element. An iron atom sits at the center of the heme molecule of hemoglobin, much as cobalt sits at the core of B12. Yet, there's little speculation in biochemistry of a magnetic function for iron in hemoglobin.

This biochemical geometry implies that B12-cobalt plays an unknown role in red cell magnetism. I suggest B12-cobalt winds up a red blood cell's magnetic field to activate iron's magnetic function. Indeed Mark Mead says biochemists believe B12 is a "diamagnetic coenzyme," which means its magnetism is opposite to iron. Without B12-cobalt, red cell magnetism is a loose, expanded field, and lacks the geometry and intensity needed to attract and bind oxygen. And oxygen supplies a second clue to B12 magnetism.

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the contact with NASA is more than a greeting
it`s the first signal that our minds are meeting
disclosure is not just what you imagine it will be
and the powers that be also had to wait patiently
but now we have their acceptance not fear
progress will move up and not just a gear
you will be informed as they and others interact
for now please be peaceful, relax and sit back
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I keep getting the impression that you believe in aliens (exterior entities) coming....
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alien is a term that i believe is well known
as used by those whom have chosen to be alone
i was born into natural contact with others
the majority of whom do not have human mothers
so i`m the wrong one to ask about coming
as for me they are part of daily living
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A couple of good threads going:

Bowmans' Thunderbolts thread:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

and AC: Interchange Labs Spiral Theory
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

:download the v3 PDF .. UPLOADED the day before the Spiral.

[link to www.scribd.com]


.................

On the subject of Aliens

Aliens = ETs = PLASMA

Do not make God in Mans image. Man was made in Gods image.


Our concept of consciousness and thought is 2d/3d. These 'beings' are 4th dimensonal (or higher).

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I can sort of understand the first hypothesis of the pyramid having something to do with measuring harmonic resonance. Somehow I intuited that when I was doing some of my own research a few years ago. Something just came together for me that made me see that.


The second one, Ozone generation, I don't understand. WHY would we need to create ozone?


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Ozone gets depleted by EM radiation like gamma rays. Lightning creates ozone, why do you think there are over 3 million lightning strikes per day (approx) worldwide? It's a constant process of destruction and creation of ozone...

Also time is a misconception, the only thing the measurement of time is, is a measurement of motions and changes. I think you are talking about the FREQUENCY (or the rate motion and changes occurs at) is changing? Time is not a force or a field we can measure... Time doesn't pass, time doesn't flow, that is the reason why time travel is impossible... you would have to recreate the entire universe as it was at that point in order to "go back" in time. It's all in our heads.
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Interesting to note that magnetic fields and EM radiation and the other unseen energies/forces can be seen themselves as higher dimensional properties, because they are all around us, within and without but yet we can't see them despite being able to see their effects. I thank Carl Jung for his explanation of higher dimensions and how we would experience them. These forces are all part of something greater, yet we can only see fragments, separate effects. So in theory yes, plasma itself could only be part of that greater something that is the universe... Only from our perspective it all looks like it's not related or related in a way we can't understand from our viewpoint.
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"Mysterious" night sky prompts questions of light's origins

A mysterious light in the Minnesota sky early this morning prompts question of its origins and perhaps a meteor. Earlier this week, a mysterious light (pictured above)over Norway is now believed to have been a Russian missile test that went bad.

GRAND FORKS, N.D. – Finding that the sky is blue is not unusual, unless it’s 1:15 in the morning.

That’s what happened early Friday when observers from western Minnesota to northern Wisconsin reported seeing a bright blue or green flash in the sky.

The National Weather Service in Grand Forks, N.D., logged a call at 1:25 a.m. from someone 15 miles west of Bemidji, Minn., who reported the sky looked green.

The weather station then heard from a sister station in Duluth, Minn., which passed along observations from law enforcement agencies in Wisconsin, where a huge fireball was seen near the town of Fifield that created temporary mid-day brightness, said Bill Barrett, a Weather Service official in Grand Forks.

Officials suspect the phenomena was a meteor, as this week marks the peak of the Geminid meteor shower, Barrett said.


A Becker County Sheriff’s Department deputy was dispatched to investigate two reports of lights in the sky about 1:36 a.m., Sheriff Tim Gordon said.

The reports came from Highway 10 near Frazee, Minn., and Highway 34 east of Detroit Lakes.

Nothing was found, but the area was checked to make sure it wasn’t a downed plane, Gordon said.

Gordon said there was ice fog in the sky and it’s likely that whatever the object was, it appeared to be closer to the earth than it actually was.

He said the sheriff’s department received similar reports of lights in the sky about a month ago, when weather conditions were similar and another meteor shower was occurring.

There have been other strange lights in the sky in recent days and weeks.

Earlier in the week, a bright ball of blue light spotted over Norway, which was also caught on video, is now believed to have been a Russian missile test that went bad.
[link to www.inforum.com]

Those "falling stars" aka meteorites and meteorite showers and fireballs, could they all be simply a plasma effect? The timing of the "shower" (almost like a cosmic ray shower) and the lights in the sky is not a coincidence...

Let's try for a 3rd event, I'm still not convinced.
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Forgot to add this link.

Google image search of aurora. What colours do you see?

[link to images.google.com.au]
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Blue and green are the main colors of auroras. But that also seems to be the predominant color of meteor sitings.

[link to www.amsmeteors.org]

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Don't they explain away that with the composition of the "meteor fragments"? But as with NASA found with the stardust probe that meteors are more complex then they ever thought... Not simply ice and rock but complex organics and a variety of elements. They started life most likely, seeding the planet with all the elements and chemicals needed to create life. They also deposited water, huge amounts.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Captured Lightning: fractal-like Lichtenberg figures frozen in acrylic blocks by Bert Hickman

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The dense plasma cloud might look something like this;

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]


[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

M82, at a distance of 11 million light years, is a rare nearby starburst galaxy where stars are forming and expiring at a rate ten times higher than in our galaxy. A close encounter with the large galaxy M81 in the last 100 million years is thought to be the cause of this activity.

This Chandra image is colorized to highlight a population of point-like "ultraluminous" X-ray sources in M82, a starburst galaxy 11 million light years from Earth. In the image, red represents the low energy band, green intermediate, and blue the highest observed energies. The white and yellow sources are those that emit significant amounts of both low- and high-energy X-rays. The ultraluminous sources, which emit ten to several hundred times more X-ray power than similar sources in our Galaxy, are believed to be either massive black holes, or black holes that are beaming energy toward Earth. The brightest point-like source, located near the center of the image, is the most powerful ultraluminous source detected in any galaxy to date.

Observations of M82 and other starburst galaxies suggest that the origin of ultraluminous sources is related to a burst of star formation triggered by a collision with another galaxy. Astronomers suspect that M82 had a close encounter with a large galaxy, M81 in the last 100 million years.

The diffuse red cloud in the image is caused by multi-million degree gas flowing out of the central region of M82.
[link to chandra.harvard.edu]
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Since I doubt everyone understands what the EM spectrum is.

Electromagnetic radiation can be described in terms of a stream of photons, which are massless particles each traveling in a wave-like pattern and moving at the speed of light. Each photon contains a certain amount (or bundle) of energy, and all electromagnetic radiation consists of these photons. The only difference between the various types of electromagnetic radiation is the amount of energy found in the photons. Radio waves have photons with low energies, microwaves have a little more energy than radio waves, infrared has still more, then visible, ultraviolet, X-rays, and ... the most energetic of all ... gamma-rays.

Actually, the electromagnetic spectrum can be expressed in terms of energy, wavelength, or frequency. Each way of thinking about the EM spectrum is related to the others in a precise mathematical way. So why do we have three ways of describing things, each with a different set of physical units? After all, frequency is measured in cycles per second (which is called a Hertz), wavelength is measured in meters, and energy is measured in electron volts.
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*snip*
Let's examine this absurdity. It's amazing how it paid off.
If you extrapolate backwards to 15 billion years ago what do you
get when everything was on top of everything, well in physics
you do this by just turning the film backwards. You imagine everything
coming together and say what would have happened. It is all more
or less reversible, and the answer is, and this is what Gamov
did, was he said in the early universe it must have been extremely
dense. All of space was filled with extremely dense matter.
He also postulated that because it was so compressed from all
of these things coming back that it would be very hot and so


I have a picture here of Gamov's early universe
and what it looked like and there it is. He called this "Ylem",
which I think is Yiddish for chicken soup or something like that.
It was a picture, when things were so hot and so compressed the
density was greater than the density in the present interior of
the sun, the temperature was far, far higher. In fact, you start
calculating these things now and imagine the universe, but this
is not a local region, this is the entire universe, is filled
up with this stuff. It is in the process of expanding and when
it expands it cools off, but right now it is very, very hot.
How long is it hot like this? Well it is expanding very rapidly
so it is at a trillion degrees for only a few seconds. What we
have here are a few atoms and the black dots are supposed to represent
atoms, and then we have some blue dots, those are supposed to
be protons and red dots are electrons, we have a lot of protons
because this is all hot. We have heat radiation, black body radiation,
scattering around and that bounces off electrons and then we have
this big mixture here, I will show you an actual photograph of
this shortly because with the Cosmic Microwave Explorer (COBE)
satellite we have much more detailed information on this, but
this is the entire universe and the earth is going to form right
there and the universe is expanding everywhere.

Okay, now as it cools off what happens? Well the first things
is that these ions, the positive and negative charges, start recombining.
When it was hot they kept on getting ripped apart again, and you
had a plasma. When it cools off, the temperature drops and suddenly
it is not a plasma anymore. Let me illustrate that by just removing
all the electrons and protons until you have nothing left but
neutral hydrogen atoms, and I'm just removing them. Those are
the same things now, they are neutral hydrogen atoms and there
is one other mistake here. You notice all these light particles
that are drawn by squiggly lines by a physicist, they are bouncing.
Well those are bouncing mostly off the electrons. Electrons
are charged particles with light mass and so they are easily moved
by electric fields, but once the electrons have become part of
atoms, then these light particles don't bounce so much. We should
straighten them all out, let me just remove them and remove all
the bouncing particles and there what we have now is the universe.
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Complex plasma phenomena

Although the underlying equations governing plasmas are relatively simple, plasma behavior is extraordinarily varied and subtle: the emergence of unexpected behavior from a simple model is a typical feature of a complex system. Such systems lie in some sense on the boundary between ordered and disordered behavior, and cannot typically be described either by simple, smooth, mathematical functions, or by pure randomness. The spontaneous formation of interesting spatial features on a wide range of length scales is one manifestation of plasma complexity. The features are interesting, for example, because they are very sharp, spatially intermittent (the distance between features is much larger than the features themselves), or have a fractal form. Many of these features were first studied in the laboratory, and have subsequently been recognized throughout the universe. Examples of complexity and complex structures in plasmas include:
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Filamentation

Striations or string-like structures[14] are seen in many plasmas, like the plasma ball (image above), the aurora,[15] lightning,[16] electric arcs, solar flares,[17] and supernova remnants.[18] They are sometimes associated with larger current densities, and the interaction with the magnetic field can form a magnetic rope structure.[19] (See also Plasma pinch)

Filamentation also refers the self-focusing of a high power laser pulse. At high powers, the nonlinear part of the index of refraction becomes important and causes a higher index of refraction in the center of the laser beam, where the laser is brighter than at the edges, causing a feedback that focuses the laser even more. The tighter focused laser has a higher peak brightness (irradiance) that forms a plasma. The plasma has an index of refraction lower than one, and causes a defocusing of the laser beam. The interplay of the focusing index of refraction, and the defocusing plasma makes the formation of a long filament of plasma that can be microns to kilometers in length.[20]
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Shocks or double layers

Plasma properties change rapidly (within a few Debye lengths) across a two-dimensional sheet in the presence of a (moving) shock or (stationary) double layer. Double layers involve localized charge separation, which causes a large potential difference across the layer, but does not generate an electric field outside the layer. Double layers separate adjacent plasma regions with different physical characteristics, and are often found in current carrying plasmas. They accelerate both ions and electrons.
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Electric fields and circuits

Quasineutrality of a plasma requires that plasma currents close on themselves in electric circuits. Such circuits follow Kirchhoff's circuit laws, and possess a resistance and inductance. These circuits must generally be treated as a strongly coupled system, with the behavior in each plasma region dependent on the entire circuit. It is this strong coupling between system elements, together with nonlinearity, which may lead to complex behavior. Electrical circuits in plasmas store inductive (magnetic) energy, and should the circuit be disrupted, for example, by a plasma instability, the inductive energy will be released as plasma heating and acceleration. This is a common explanation for the heating which takes place in the solar corona. Electric currents, and in particular, magnetic-field-aligned electric currents (which are sometimes generically referred to as "Birkeland currents"), are also observed in the Earth's aurora, and in plasma filaments.
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Cellular structure

Narrow sheets with sharp gradients may separate regions with different properties such as magnetization, density, and temperature, resulting in cell-like regions. Examples include the magnetosphere, heliosphere, and heliospheric current sheet. Hannes Alfvén wrote: "From the cosmological point of view, the most important new space research discovery is probably the cellular structure of space. As has been seen in every region of space which is accessible to in situ measurements, there are a number of 'cell walls', sheets of electric currents, which divide space into compartments with different magnetization, temperature, density, etc ."[21]
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Critical ionization velocity

The critical ionization velocity is the relative velocity between an ionized plasma and a neutral gas above which a runaway ionization process takes place. The critical ionization process is a quite general mechanism for the conversion of the kinetic energy of a rapidly streaming gas into ionization and plasma thermal energy. Critical phenomena in general are typical of complex systems, and may lead to sharp spatial or temporal features.
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Ultracold plasma

It is possible to create ultracold plasmas, by using lasers to trap and cool neutral atoms to temperatures of 1 mK or lower. Another laser then ionizes the atoms by giving each of the outermost electrons just enough energy to escape the electrical attraction of its parent ion.

The key point about ultracold plasmas is that by manipulating the atoms with lasers, the kinetic energy of the liberated electrons can be controlled. Using standard pulsed lasers, the electron energy can be made to correspond to a temperature of as low as 0.1 K, a limit set by the frequency bandwidth of the laser pulse. The ions, however, retain the millikelvin temperatures of the neutral atoms. This type of non-equilibrium ultracold plasma evolves rapidly, and many fundamental questions about its behavior remain unanswered. Experiments conducted so far have revealed surprising dynamics and recombination behavior which are pushing the limits of our knowledge of plasma physics.[citation needed] One of the metastable states of strongly nonideal plasma is Rydberg matter which forms upon condensation of excited atoms.
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Non-neutral plasma

The strength and range of the electric force and the good conductivity of plasmas usually ensure that the densities of positive and negative charges in any sizeable region are equal ("quasineutrality"). A plasma which has a significant excess of charge density or which is, in the extreme case, composed of only a single species, is called a non-neutral plasma. In such a plasma, electric fields play a dominant role. Examples are charged particle beams, an electron cloud in a Penning trap, and positron plasmas.[22]
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Dusty plasma and grain plasma

A dusty plasma is one containing tiny charged particles of dust (typically found in space) which also behaves like a plasma. A plasma containing larger particles is called a grain plasma.
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[link to lasers.llnl.gov (secure)]

The National Ignition Facility:
Ushering in a New Age for Science


Scientists have been working to achieve self-sustaining nuclear fusion and energy gain in the laboratory for more than half a century. When the National Ignition Facility (NIF) begins ignition experiments at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) in 2010, that long-sought goal will be much closer to realization.

NIF's 192 giant lasers, housed in a ten-story building the size of three football fields, will deliver at least 60 times more energy than any previous laser system. When all of its beams are fully operational, NIF will focus nearly two million joules of ultraviolet laser energy on a tiny target in the center of its target chamber – creating conditions similar to those that exist only in the cores of stars and giant planets and inside a nuclear weapon. The resulting fusion reaction will release many times more energy than the laser energy required to initiate the reaction.

[link to lasers.llnl.gov (secure)] <- Nice small video with an explanation.

Seems like EM radiation can be used to turn "ordinary" (then again if 99% of the visible universe is plasma, it's not so ordinary) matter into plasma.
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Anyone else find it odd that this Cassini probe has everything you need to find, track, and get all sorts of measurements from plasma in space, like the high density plasma cloud(s).

Cassini instruments

To gather as much science as possible during its historic mission to the Saturnian system, the Cassini-Huygens spacecraft is equipped with 18 instruments, 12 on the Cassini orbiter and six on the Huygens probe.

Many of these sophisticated instruments are capable of multiple functions, and the data that they gather will be studied by scientists worldwide.

Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS) explores plasma (highly ionised gas) within and near Saturn's magnetic field.

Cosmic Dust Analyser (CDA) studies ice and dust grains in and near the Saturn system.

Composite Infrared Spectrometer (CIRS) measures infrared energy from the surfaces, atmospheres and rings of Saturn and its moons to study their temperature and compositions.

Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer (INMS) examines neutral and charged particles near Titan, Saturn and moons to learn more about their extended atmospheres and ionospheres.

Imaging Science Subsystem (ISS) takes pictures in visible, near-ultraviolet and near-infrared light.

Dual-Technique Magnetometer (MAG) studies Saturn's magnetic field and its interactions with the solar wind, the rings and the moons of Saturn.

Magnetospheric Imaging Instrument (MIMI) images Saturn's magnetosphere and measures interactions between the magnetosphere and the solar wind, a flow of ionised gases streaming out from the Sun..

Cassini Radar (RADAR) maps surface of Titan using radar imager to pierce veil of haze. Also used to measure heights of surface features.

Radio and Plasma Wave Spectrometer (RPWS) investigates plasma waves (generated by ionised gases flowing out from the Sun or orbiting Saturn), natural emissions of radio energy and dust.

Radio Science Subsystem (RSS) searches for gravitational waves in the Universe; studies the atmosphere, rings and gravity fields of Saturn and its moons by measuring telltale changes in radio waves sent from the spacecraft.

Ultraviolet Imaging Spectrograph (UVIS) measures ultraviolet energy from atmospheres and rings to study their structure, chemistry and composition.

Visible and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (VIMS) identifies the chemical compositions of the surfaces, atmospheres and rings of Saturn and its moons by measuring colours of visible light and infrared energy emitted or reflected.


HUGE UFO Monitored by Cassini Above South Pole Coming Here
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UFO = plasma.
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Holy cow! So how far out is that thing to the south?
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Nevermind.

"a 1.5 mln miles off the South pole a 20 mile craft that is sat in a stationary. NASA and other organizations telescopes have been monitoring it for 8 months, they watch its trajectory to us. It is now
stationary and are craft going in and out of this 20-mile structure.
* very large planetary structure coming in 18 degrees RA of Neptune's orbit. it should be visible sometimes next year."
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What are cosmic rays?

'Cosmic ray' is the (confusing) name given to any kind of energetic particle that comes from
outside the Earth. These particles could be single protons, nuclei of different atoms or electrons. Cosmic rays are neither light nor beams of particles, so maybe they should be renamed energetic cosmic particles. Cosmic rays are often made when a star explodes. This is called a supernova. Some cosmic rays can be produced by the Sun and some can even come from as far away as other galaxies. These particles are very energetic, but also very small. They rarely directly hit anything as they travel through space, but if they do it can cause nuclear reactions with atoms. These reactions are similar to the activities in particle accelerators.

The Sun's heliosphere protects the planets and other objects in the solar system from some of these dangerous particles. The Earth's magnetosphere and atmosphere protect life on Earth from cosmic rays that make it through the heliosphere. Studying the heliosphere will help us to prepare adequate shielding during future space travel.
[link to ibex.swri.edu]

How do cosmic rays affect DNA?

Cosmic rays can seriously damage DNA. If DNA damage cannot be repaired by the cell, the cell could die. If the damage is copied into more cells, then a mutation could occur. Exposure to large amounts of cosmic rays could increase the risks for cancer, cataracts and neurological disorders. Long term exposure to cosmic rays, or short intense bursts, could affect the evolution of life on Earth.
[link to ibex.swri.edu]

Remember, a drop in the sun's activities = a drop in the IMF and that allows more cosmic rays to come into our solar system and then make it to Earth. Cosmic ray flux is UP and rising.


What is plasma?

Plasma is a state of matter. Everything in the Universe is made of “stuff” called matter. All matter is made of atoms, and it can exist in different states. Many people are familiar with three states of matter: solid, liquid, and gas

Atoms are made of protons, neutrons and electrons. Protons have a positive charge, neutrons have a neutral charge and they both make up the atom's nucleus. Electrons have a negative charge. They surround the nucleus of the atom.

In a solid, the atoms are tightly bound together. Solids have a fixed volume and shape. Heating up a solid will often cause it to change to a liquid. Liquids have atoms that are less tightly bonded together. They have a fixed volume, but not a fixed shape. Adding heat energy to a liquid will often transform it to a gas. Gasses have neither a fixed volume nor a fixed shape. Their atoms are not bonded together and they move around freely.

When heat energy is added to a gas, it begins to move around faster. When enough heat energy is added to a gas it can become a plasma.

Plasma is similar to gas, but its particles have a different structure and charge. Plasma forms when a gas becomes extremely hot. When this happens, the gas’ atoms gain lots of energy. This energy causes the electrons to detach from the nuclei of the gas’ atoms. When the negatively charged electrons detach, the positively charged protons and neutral particles called neutrons in the nuclei are left. These positively charged nuclei are called ions. When a gas is so hot that the electrons and protons split apart to form electrons and ions, we say that the gas has been ionized. Plasma is an ionized gas.

Plasma has some interesting properties because the particles are ionized. When charged particles move, as they do in a plasma, they create magnetic fields. These magnetic fields can then cause the moving plasma particles to travel in certain directions and paths. The particles travel in spiraling paths like corkscrews.
[link to ibex.swri.edu]
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Plasma has some interesting properties because the particles are ionized. When charged particles move, as they do in a plasma, they create magnetic fields. These magnetic fields can then cause the moving plasma particles to travel in certain directions and paths. The particles travel in spiraling paths like corkscrews.

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Like what came out of the spiral.
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Ultimately, why is this information important?

The heliosphere is our home in the galaxy, and understanding how it protects us as we orbit the center of the Milky Way is important as we plan future space travel beyond Earth and think about the conditions surrounding our solar system in the distant past and future.

The heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun's million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every 225 million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry-go-round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas can compress the heliosphere, while less dense regions allow the bubble to expand. In addition, the strength of the solar wind varies over the Sun's cycle, “breathing” periodically, also contributing to this.
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Sun's magnetic field dropping in size and strength recently, as well as the drop in solar wind speed can be explained by the dense plasma in our solar system now, a well as the surrounding ISM (interstellar medium). Anthony L. Perrat's explanation of the dense plasma entering our solar system confirmed by another source now. Looks like it's really here... More dense plasma = more energetic.
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Some more on cosmic rys:


Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate
by Henrik Svensmark*

Solar-Terrestrial Physics Division. Danish Meteorological Institute, Lyngbyvej 30. DK-2100 Copenhagen, Denmark
(Received 16 September 1997; revised manuscript received 17 July 1998)

During the last solar cycle Earth's cloud cover underwent a modulation more closely in phase with the galactic cosmic ray flux than with other solar activity parameters. Further it is found that Earth's temperature follows more closely decade variations in galactic cosmic ray flux and solar cycle length, than other solar activity parameters. The main conclusion is that the average state of the heliosphere affects Earth's climate. [link to www.tmgnow.com]
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"torsion field or spin field theories confirm that the spin—spin interactions may be transmitted by or through space like the electromagnetic wave but do not hold any energy or mass but the information only".

Looks like it's really here... More dense plasma = more energetic.
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energy = information

times arriving are not as destructive as before
it`s not the planets movements doing it any more
this time around we have energy inward bound
and it`s not nearly so bad as it might sound
the most significant effect you can be sure
is inducing thoughts for all minds to explore
the information will appear brand new not old
as this dose of energy allows feelings to unfold
it may not always be just an easy endevour
but a worthy way to become naturaly clever





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