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ObamaCare: No Exit. Escape only open to the rich . Merry Christmas, America. You have now formally been placed into bondage

 
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Escape only open to the rich

By SCOTT GOTTLIEB

Last Updated: 438 AM, December 21, 2009


Perhaps the most common question I'm asked about ObamaCare is: "Will I be able to buy my way out of it?" The answer is: "Not unless you're very rich."

The plan before the Senate creates a set of 50 state-based insurance "exchanges" that are established as markets for health plans. Consumers must buy policies from their employers or through the exchanges — but, either way, their choice of coverage is limited to one of four basic insurance plans that the government sanctions.

Private insurers will still compete to offer policies but must model their coverage on one of these four templates. In short, the Senate bill explicitly standardizes health benefits and then establishes elaborate mechanisms (including subsidies and penalties) to pay for them.

Here's the rub: While these four plans vary from low- to high-cost options, the benefits offered under them are pretty much the same. The difference between the cheaper and pricier plans is mostly the amount of cost sharing (e.g., you pay less for insurance if your co-pays are higher).

In effect, the plan creates a single national health-insurance policy. Consumers' only real option is to trade higher co-pays for lower premiums. But we'll all get the same package of benefits established by a series of new agencies and an "insurance czar" seated in Washington.

Once the exchanges are in place, the individual market — the ability to go directly to an insurer and buy a health-care policy — will disappear. You'll have only two places to buy insurance, in the exchanges or through your workplace.

As for health plans offered by employers, "no health-insurance policies could be issued (other than grandfathered plans) that don't meet the actuarial standards set for these plans" sold in the exchanges. The government will "define the essential health benefits" that all plans must eventually offer, not only those sold in the exchanges but also plans offered by employers. But like other elements of today's private coverage, the grandfathered plans also disappear in short time. While the bill allows some employer plans to continue as they are today, that's only so long as the policy doesn't change — and natural market forces will ensure that most such policies must change within a few years after the bill becomes law.

All of which brings us to the question of whether you'll be able to spend extra money to add benefits that exceed the government's basic package or opt out of that plan entirely. The bill doesn't address this question directly — yet I can say with great confidence that it will be costly and in some cases impossible.

The bill leaves these issues in the hands of the bureaucracies that will write the law's enabling regulations. And it's clear both what the spirit of the Obama plan and the habits of these bureaucracies will produce.

The overriding goal of this reform is to turn health insurance into a more "egalitarian" benefit that's the same for everyone, regardless of income, personal preference or need. So rules written under President Obama to implement the Obama plan are a sure bet to intentionally curtail anyone's ability to wrap around this national coverage with a supplemental policy or to contract privately with doctors to pay your way out of its limitations.

This is exactly what the bureaucracy's done with Medicare. Doctors accepting Medicare can't contract privately with Medicare patients to bill for services that Medicare doesn't cover. Nor can patients buy added coverage to help plug Medicare's gaps. (The "Medigap" that many seniors now buy are tightly regulated by the government to limit how much they expand on Medicare's basic benefits; they mostly just help defray co-pays.)

In short, beneficiaries are trapped inside the Medicare insurance scheme, just as they'll soon be trapped inside the ObamaCare exchanges. Doctors can't offer benefits not covered by the government plans, and patients can't buy extra insurance to make up for many gaps.

These restrictions were designed into Medicare for a reason: Progressives don't want it to be easy for rich seniors to buy their out; they fear that if the well-off can leave the federal plan, it will become a lower-end benefit. That is, it will wind up like Medicaid, whose enormous problems are largely ignored by politicians because poor Americans don't have the political power to force improvements.

The very rich, of course, will be able to buy their way out of ObamaCare. Many of the best doctors will go cash only, opting entirely out of the Obama program, to cater to a wealthy clientele. But only the truly affluent will have the cash to escape.

The vast rest of us will be locked inside the new system — stuck with the same collection of government-decreed medical benefits.

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Obama & Senate Christmas Present to We-the-People: Enslavement
By Sher Zieve
With the phony Senator Ben Nelson’s (D-NE) vote now secured, the Senate and its tyrannical leader Barack Hussein Obama can finally move forward swiftly in its application of forced bondage upon the American people.

Nelson was a pretender to pro-life and anti-abortion measures and held back his “yes” vote on the not-even-completely-written Senate version of ObamaCare until he was also offered—as were other Senators—a huge bribe (with monies from American taxpayers) to secure his being on board with the rest of the Senate’s corrupt members. Nelson’s bribe was that the federal government will—into perpetuity—cover any and all Medicaid expansion costs for the state of Nebraska. The other forty-nine states will be forced to pick up Nebraska’s portion of the bill.

Nelson had acted (with true emphasis given to that word) as the “sole conscience” pro-life holdout in the US Senate. As we now know, Nelson didn’t care about abortion in any way—whatsoever. As the others before him, he just wanted his piece of the Reid & Obama Bribe Pie. Even Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders—an avowed Socialist in the Senate—was promised a $10 Billions bribe for his vote. He, like the others before him, sold what was left of his soul for the money. And please remember, folks, this bribery is being accomplished with OUR money. Therefore We-the-People, whether we like it or not, have been made co-conspirators in the illegal and unconstitutional power play being affected by our now openly-corrupt-and-proud-of-it ‘leaders’. For decades, the US Legislative body (AKA Congress) has been utilizing unconstitutional measures to “get its way” around US laws. Its members’ arrogant response has been that they know its unconstitutional—‘so what?’ and (knowing full well this is not the way checks and balances work) they offer ‘if the judiciary wants it stopped, SCOTUS can step in and stop us’.

With the passage of the ObamaCare Death Plan—vote slated Monday—the Executive and Legislative branches of the US government will now OWN our bodies and will determine what we may and may not do with them, eat and whether or not many of us will even be allowed to live.

Note: If you didn’t vote for or don’t plan to vote for the tyrant next time, your life and the lives of your loved ones may very well be on the line. And don’t forget, Obama has no intention of increasing jobs in the private sector or even getting yours back for you. A poorer, smaller, less-educated and “victimized” population is more easily dominated and controlled by its masters.

Still think Obama’s Cap & Trade won’t pass via the same plan? That’s the bill that will make it virtually impossible for most Americans to afford electricity and Obama’s plan to permanently cripple us and keep us in servitude to him and his minions—forever. As I’ve written and said since before Dictator-in-Chief Obama was elected, in order to ensure he remains in power for an indefinite period of time, Obama and Co will push for illegals’ Amnesty. That will, also, be shoved down our throats via bribes to the Legislators. Again, these are bribes using YOUR money. Votes will no longer be important. We are now almost Venezuela-2 anyway.

Sure…you can continue to send faxes, snail mail, sign petitions, call your lawmakers, march on D.C., protest at Town Hall meetings etc. But, eventually you have to ask yourselves: Have these tactics really worked? The fact is that Congress and the Pretender-to-the-throne Obama refuse to listen. And as long as they have almost all—soon to be ALL—of our money, why would they care? The fact is that they have not cared about anything we have said or done, thus far, and their history tells us that they will not in the future. The vast majority of the American people don’t want the ObamaCare Death Plan or any of the other oppressive programs these governmental bodies are forcing upon us. So what? The “leaders” in D.C. view us as a powerless and ineffectual mob. We will be forced to pay for the ObamaCare Death Plan—or go to jail—years before any nebulous benefit is realized by the people; now correctly known as the proletariat. Congress and The Obama will pass any bills they like—whether they have read them or not—if the money and their perks are what they want. The attitude of our rulers is now firmly and overtly: “The American people and their country be damned! They work for us!”

Merry Christmas, America. You have now formally been placed into Bondage.


sidebar: from the comments @ url
1. The Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 8, the "Taxing and Spending Clause," contains a stipulation known as the "Uniformity Clause," which states "...all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;" Therefore, does not Reid's bribe for Nelson's vote to exempt Nebraska from Medicaid expenses, and exempting Nebraskan and Michigan non-profit medical insurance companies from fees amount to a non-uniformly applied tax on the other 49 (48) states?

2. did a little research on Reid's vote buying. I could not find all information, but what I found is revealing. Fourteen different states received payola; some states more than one perk. In Vermont, two different senators sold out. There may be more than fourteen states.

The democrats are trying very hard to keep this information from the public. Only four bought votes had a dollar amount attached and that amount totals $660,000,000. There are 14 more deals for which I could not find a dollar amount. No telling what the total will eventually be.

The states I identified are: Florida, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming.

Can Reid legally spend our tax payer money to buy votes? This should not be allowed. All states should be treated alike. I don't see why all the other Democrats don't hold their votes for ransom too. This is outrageous! If this is legal then Reid or whoever is in charge can just keep dangling carrots until he gets the votes he needs to pass anything! This sounds like the Governor or Illinois selling Obama’s Senate seat. I guess this is the way things are done in Illinois where Obama was trained, but it is not the American way and we must put a stop to it.

If we can get control of the Senate, we should request a law or something to prevent "vote buying" in the Senate. One person should not be in a position to spend millions of tax payer dollars to get the votes he needs to pass anything. This is not democracy.

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We are about to get in even deeper. Its almost to the point of no return if its not there already. Amazing post.
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We are about to get in even deeper. Its almost to the point of no return if its not there already. Amazing post.
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and to add insult to injury (no pun intended) the ovomitcare bill is so sad it hadda be ramrodded through during the middle of the night.

i watched it on cnn with phoenix & a few others in chat, phoenix referred to reid as playing the tiny tim trump card.
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we have been in bondage ever since thomas jefferson died and the demonic bankers took over.
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What do You expect from the party that bought us the income tax & the federal reserve.
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* * * phoenix referred to reid as playing the tiny tim trump card.
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Well said.
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Time to start recall process on Congress.
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What do You expect from the party that bought us the income tax & the federal reserve.
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A high hard one in the poop chute??
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Time to start recall process on Congress.
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Oh . . . honestly.
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PEOPLE LISTEN.

The time has come that we as a people SIMPLY START TO REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THIS BULLSHIT.

I can guarantee you this... I will NOT be forced into purchasing heathcare if I do not make that decision on my own.

They can do whatever they want but I will not comply. If they come for me I will do everything possible to resist them taking me including resisting with force if necessary.

I am prepared to die defending myself if necessary.

I will not live on my knees.

People need to grow a pair and stand up and refuse to comply with all this unconstitutional bullshit.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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yes you can buy your way out of this.... just wait for the republic of texas to form and buy a one way ticket .....do not look back at Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Yeah....well.....you should all return to England, from whence you escaped.
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yes you can buy your way out of this.... just wait for the republic of texas to form and buy a one way ticket .....do not look back at Sodom and Gomorrah.
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I would move in a moments notice.
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I don't think ALL will go quietly.

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yes you can buy your way out of this.... just wait for the republic of texas to form and buy a one way ticket .....do not look back at Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Don't look back, or you'll be turned into a pillar of shit.
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I promised you stupid pee-ons change, didn't I?

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FIRE ALL FUCKING GOVERNMENTS!!!!
Governments in ANY form is Blasphemy to freedom and human rights!
#1 goal is to CONTROL the masses and reap 200%+ profits @ cost of society.
#1 Cause of death and WAR in all History is GOVERNMENTS!

A true righteous government is as common as a real virgin porn star which is 1/2 as likely tho twice as honest.

People are the wire in the matrix.
Enough wires cut and a cascade failure in sues.

YOU CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT THEIR SLAVERIES AKA JOBS!
Many here have begun to free their mind and can see far above their BS.
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anyone know what states allow recall and how we can start it
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Yeah..you need to get a life...mad cow
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Yes we can! (WORSHIP SATAN!!) ogrrr
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only if you are VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY rich will you escape

like senators and congress
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"The government will "define the essential health benefits" that all plans must eventually offer, not only those sold in the exchanges but also plans offered by employers."

Yup, including mandated abortion coverage. Take me to jail, I don't care, I will NOT carry and pay for coverage for a procedure that I consider to be against my core beliefs. This is a direct violation of my freedom of religious expression and those in power will pay for this. By that I mean I will do more than hold them accountable at the ballot box; I have joined the 9-12'ers and we will train up new leaders from ourselves to retake the country and refound it on its original principles. This can not be allowed to stand. Not only is it unconstitutional for the above reason, it's also forced servitude by forcing you to buy insurance or pay a fine.

This is where we must draw a line in the sand. The constitution must not be ignored, it must be defended.

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PEOPLE LISTEN.

The time has come that we as a people SIMPLY START TO REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THIS BULLSHIT.

I can guarantee you this... I will NOT be forced into purchasing heathcare if I do not make that decision on my own.

They can do whatever they want but I will not comply. If they come for me I will do everything possible to resist them taking me including resisting with force if necessary.

I am prepared to die defending myself if necessary.

I will not live on my knees.

People need to grow a pair and stand up and refuse to comply with all this unconstitutional bullshit.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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I'll be the camp for all who disobey, unless we take a stand now and over throw this government,.
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Thank Christ I'm rich!

Hope all you lower middle class people who voted for Obama are happy!
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Does anyone know how this will affect the welfare state and the disabled?
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AC 798005 .... WELL said !

I am disposed to do the same.

Lock and LOAD !
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We are about to get in even deeper. Its almost to the point of no return if its not there already. Amazing post.

and to add insult to injury (no pun intended) the ovomitcare bill is so sad it hadda be ramrodded through during the middle of the night.

i watched it on cnn with phoenix & a few others in chat, phoenix referred to reid as playing the tiny tim trump card.
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Another Saturday night special "ramrodded". Why is it that these bills must be voted on during the weekends late at night...oh I forgot...transparency.
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Remember folks, don't pay attention to who votes for the final bill; that doesn't matter, they know they can give political cover to 9 of their cronies who voted for cloture. All that matters is the 60 who voted for it today. Don't let them get away with their meaningless final formality vote.
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