What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.

Yes, but there has been previous floods and there's going to be another one! I still like your explanation. Water is very symbolic and man's thoughts and actions have an influence on this earth. Either the earth experiences natural cycles or the actions of man through their thoughts and negativity will bring it about. There is no separation and all is connected. This is what Christians can't seem to grasp. They've all read the experiments with water and the power of thought. We are in troubled waters. Not just Christians, but every religious cult continues to separate themselves from the whole and see a vengeful god sitting above them on his throne. It's just the opposite. We are given every opportunity to change and turn the tide and to change our own thoughts about ourselves and others. It's all within.

I've read literally hundreds of such Flood stories, and the one I believe most is contained in Zecharia Sitchin's book The 12th Planet. Sitchin claims the Flood was caused by the Antarctic ice shelf sliding into the ocean. Sitchin also believes the triggering event was the approach of Planet X. Sitchin places the time of the Flood around 13,000 BC, or 15,000 years ago which is interesting since Planet X is supposed to come into our solar system approximately every 3,600 years (up to 3,700 years according to other researchers) and 15,000 years is the length of time it takes for four such orbits (or shars as the ancient Sumerian text calls them). Although I don't want to take the time to fully discuss this matter, I believe there is a scientific basis for Sitchin's theory.

My primary concern was not so much the actual cause of the Flood, but rather how Christians can see a divine purpose in the Flood, given the fact that the reason God gave for killing most of humanity and the reason for God's promise never to do it again are the same.

Thank you for your response.

Quantum mechanics shows pretty clearly that God does play dice, though I think his are loaded. Einstein wasn't wrong about much, but he missed that trick.

As for the flood, the purpose was to scare the hell out of children. And it worked!

What the bible does NOT tell you, is that during a pole-shift; the earth's water table shifts as well......and that the populace had to be lifted off for a time.....and that Noah's Ark was in fact: A Star-ship! :(

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 12/31/2009 02:21 PM

Think about the flood as spiritual

Spiritual water flooded the Earth and Noah's belief system remained as the ruling belief system then humanity began growing from there.


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NOT TRUE! Although Satan and his followers use it for that now!

But.....God promised! LOL!

I'll give you a chance to explain that before I make fun of you.

Truer words have never been spoken!!
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Last Edited by HardTruth on 12/31/2009 01:57 PM

Ah, the usual suspects sent to derail any honest Biblical discussion.

God promised never to destroy the earth again and had COMPASSION! We will all find a higher consciousness through compassion.

Okay, God promised, but we are right on the verge of another cataclysm.(I've seen it) What does this say?

Isn't that a hypocritical statement?

And here's another!

Why is the discussion of a Book SO THREATENING to you?

The clock is ticking. Prepare to made fun of...

You've answered your own question. according to the Bible Noah survived the Flood. Can't you see there were survivals to the other Flood accounts as well.

Just because the Bible says only Noah and his family survived doesn't mean it's true. According to the combined written records, other people in other lands survived as well. If only Noah and his family survived, it is interesting how all the races developed in such a relatively short period.

Thank you for your response.

Yeap corruption of the bloodline, trying to make it so that Jesus could not be born of human flesh. When said that Noah was perfect in his generations, to generate means to produce, his sons were non contaminated, and the women they married must have been pure also. After it says he was perfect in his generations he list the generations, his sons, what he produced.

Only the surface of the earth was cleared of Nephilim and Hybrids.

Legion retreated into the earth.

Oh hell, you're not worth the effort. We'll just say you're an ignorant religitard and leave it at that.

BOOK OF ENOCH
From-The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament
R.H. Charles
Oxford: The Clarendon Press

And I, Enoch, answered and said unto him: 'The Lord will do a new thing on the earth, and this I have already seen in a vision, and make known to thee that in the generation of my father Jared some of the angels of heaven transgressed the word of the Lord. And behold they commit sin and transgress the law, and have united themselves with women and commit sin with them, and have married some of them, and have begot children by them. And they shall produce on the earth giants not according to the spirit, but according to the flesh, and there shall be a great punishment on the earth, and the earth shall be cleansed from all impurity. Yea, there shall come a great destruction over the whole earth, and there shall be a DELUGE and a great destruction for one year. And this son who has been born unto you shall be left on the earth, and his three children shall be saved with him: when all mankind that are on the earth shall die [he and his sons shall be saved]. And now make known to thy son Lamech that he who has been born is in truth his son, and call his name Noah; for he shall be left to you, and he and his sons shall be saved from the destruction, which shall come upon the earth on account of all the sin and all the unrighteousness, which shall be consummated on the earth in his days. And after that there shall be still more unrighteousness than that which was first consummated on the earth; for I know the mysteries of the holy ones; for He, the Lord, has showed me and informed me, and I have read (them) in the heavenly tablets.

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Have to blame it on the Angles/Watchers,at least according to Enoch.

I am not calling God unjust; God is my judge, I am not His. However, in my opinion God is not the entity described within the pages of the Old Testament. I do walk with God, and at the same time question the meaning of every word written in the Bible. I am not bound by any man's definition of God since I am just as capable of finding God as anyone else.

You found your God in a book. I did not.

Thank you for your response.

After the flood...he figured that he'd just limit the age you would reach to 120 years old.

From what I can gather when you lived for 500 years it was much, much worse. You could again...but what good would that do?

Some are only allowed to live to about 80 years old, like the Persian; According to Herodotus, the Ethiopian was surprised considering that your diet mostly consisted of dirt. Those Persians have always been pissed at their pitiful fucking lives...still are to this very day.

As it is...you idiots consider yourselves to be advanced if you make it to 60 or 70...and the Japanese are considered long lived at 80.

So...no purpose...you've been diminished to such a point you don't even realize it...you die at 70 if you're lucky and many men can't even get an erection without drugs after 30...women who give birth after 35 are considered to be elderly by the hospital.

Human society has disintegrated and you still haven't figured out why...figures though, as you don't even know the purpose of the flood.

He won't send another flood, but you certainly will go away.

How could one man build such a huge boat AND gather every male and female creature on earth? Is it possible?

Nothing wrong with reason nor trying to wrap ones mind around the ways of God. Finding begins with seeking and seeking begins with a question.

Noah's Ark Debunked

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People lived longer so your death rate would be low in 2000 years span, women could give birth many more times than today because they would have a larger span where they would be still fertile, same goes for the men. The population would have exploded right off the bat.

The only thing that does not make sense is your need to make ignorant comments on things you do not know or understand.

It is clear you have never read one page of scripture, yet you feel comfortable to attack; apparently because it is the "in" thing to do.

Hint: if you had read the story you might understand that God's displeasure with the Tower of Babel had absolutely nothing to do with the tower itself or its height.

Another ignorant comment from someone who has never read one line of scripture...

The scriptures tell clearly how Noah built the Ark and how long it took him to do it.

And he did not gather every male and female creature on Earth.

Perhaps you could go ahead and open your Bible and read a page or two before your next post on the subject...

Exactly! That's why I tell you that the "Ark" was a Star-ship......and btw, this particular Star-ship is LARGER than our Earth!

Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 12/31/2009 02:20 PM

So Noah built a spiritual ark to take his spiritual family and spiritual animals aboard to save them from spiritual rains which caused a spiritual Flood which spiritually drowned every human except for Noah and his family and every land animal not on the ark?

Well, I have to admit, of all the tens of thousands of theories I've heard about the Bible, I've never heard that one.

I certainly don't agree with you, but thank you for your response.

Sweetheart? That was kinda my point.