Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

That's crazy. First time I've ever heard of it, just looked it up. Even if it is just an urban legend, it does sound similar, as do the side effects.

Indeed I witnessed curious george himself being smashed slowly between two large bricks. But what amazed me was the look of amusement on his face. Like, they just will never have enough bricks, ha ha ha.

That is a mess to try and read.
Its also deep file esoteric - meaning you had to dig to find this thing - which makes it interesting to me - like a treasure hunt. Unfortunately I can't - the format - maybe if I had a hard copy . . .


So tell us what are you really sharing and why?

Gathering DNA - that would be the "Data" -

Maybe some of these programs were to insure you became underachievers?
Everyone assumes these programs were to enhance these children.
Maybe that wasn't the plan at all.

Aim High

It all makes more sense of you are open to things beyond the reality you think you perceive. What if those behind the testing really aren't the same as us?
What if they realized and are looking for certain indications of others - who are also different. Maybe the memory of why is lost at this level of consciousness.
We assume we know whats going on. Maybe they needed to deactivate the potential of those that might consider there is more to whats going on.

Let me ask a question - is anybody feeling different lately?
As if new awareness of consciousness about reality is coming into focus?
Its hard to articulate - in all honesty - its hard to articulate.
Its more like something you feel - and you know it when its happening but its illusive to maintain, kind of like Lucid Dreaming.

I did that already, now I am retired, Thanks.

As I'm working my way through the thread, that possibility has been raised a couple of times. I'm torn personally on what I believe here - it's possible that the psychological issues at play are just a natural extension of the traits that caused us to be selected for these programs in the first place.

I guess what is still bothering me is all the other stuff that doesn't add up in that same timeframe for me. Plus the fact that some of the MK Ultra stuff that's been brought up has had a number of weird naming coincidences of particular relevance to that time period for me. Seeing a supposed project title like:

Subproject 47: MKULTRA: (1) Pfeiffer Atlanta/Bordertown

Is pretty curious when, during the years I was in GATE, I lived on a street named Pfeiffer, in a border town. In a house where reality was very....unreliable, and located only a couple of blocks from the school.

Certainly perked my ears up LOL, even if it is likely just a coincidence.

I'm not sure I'd describe it in such spiritual terms, but I have felt that intense drive for accomplishment suddenly return, after 25+ years of laying dormant. It's like a wild animal who has woken up in a cage and can't run free. It feels like I'm supposed to be working on something, more important than anything I'm doing now, but because I'm trapped in the cage, I can't get there and get to work on it. It's driving me a little crazy lately.

Me dredging up this old topic is me trying to examine the "cage" for weaknesses. If we did have our potential reduced or blocked, then theoretically, it can be unblocked, provided we had a deep enough understanding of the protocols used in the first place. I'm not sure we'll find that information though, except maybe proximally through other means.

I can't slog through this whole thread - so cheers to your tenacity.
There are rabbit holes in here. I am intrigued by this thread, and have found it mildly triggering. I've come and gone in here from time to time over the years.

I have read somewhere in my travels around the webs, that if you become intensely interested in hypnotherapy and have blocks of missing time - there is usually a reason. I hope you have understanding support for yourself if you start personal journeying in these realms, because some of what you might discover could be highly upsetting.

I'm almost positive I was evaluated for these programs as a child when I lived in the Chicagoland area. We moved around a lot due to my Dad's job so nothing stuck. No talk of programs at other locations - as a matter of fact I think I was even academically behind coming out of a "test" class.

About these programs though - Unfortunately my parents passed long ago so there is no one to ask. I absolutely do recall being tested with Zener Cards - I think my entire 1st and 2nd grade "open classroom" was an experimental test program being run by the University of Chicago. I can recall my Dad being upset about the "experimental classroom" - and my academic performance and early potential was never matched again going forward.

I know there was a lot of excitement about some early abilities of mine - but I can tell you I lost what ever potential I might have had, its almost as if it was shut down. When I was in the military they put a device on vehicles that drove on the flight line so they could not go over a certain speed limit - that device was known as a "Governor" - I have felt at times over the years as if a Governor was installed in me. I can literally "feel" the wall - when I hit it. I am aware of my limitations.

It'll take time probably months if you do it sanely to read, digest, and cope with this thread completely.

If you're still friends with anyone who was in the program talk with them and they'll remember things you forgot.

As unethical our society is, we should be grateful we weren't part of the smartphone generations who were all programmed remotely.

Where you ever put on any pharmaceuticals?
I was made to take something for a period of time after we left that area and the "experimental classroom" - this was the mid 1970s - and I felt a kind of stigmatization about it. I knew these pills had something to do with "my mind" and that was just not cool in the 1970s.

One of my friends thinks they put me on ritalin, but I don't recall any hyperactivity issues - and this was literally decades before ADHD blossomed into a lot of big pharma dollars and all the kids on pills to sit still. I am also female and there is less tendency to medicate girls.

There is so much more to this to go into. I am a Veteran. I went through some pretty intensive evaluations a couple of years ago and they concluded I have a brain injury. But here is the deal, to my knowledge there is no exposure or incident to account for this. However I just can't stop thinking about those pills I had to take that were part of that whole thing with the "program of experimental education" - so who knows - ???

I think that is the theme off and on through this thread, not remembering or nobody to really ask - lot of hypothesis - maybe in some cases they were shutting things down in some of us. I wish my mom were alive still so I could ask her about this, that has been my main thought about this thread.

I really can't cope with reading the whole thing - I've certainly read large chunks - I think the ramifications of the darker possibilities are just too much.

I'm about halfway through now. There's certainly a lot to take in, but some gems in there too. I only remember a couple of classmates, and I'm not sure I would contact them if I could, honestly. Personal reasons.

Never, or at least not that I can recall. I do remember the fluoride cups that I've run across people mentioning. But never anything "official".

Depending on windage and velocity, etc.

Well they told you it was Fluoride. Just like they told the poster a page or so back they were scraping their cheeks for a teen age smoking study.

Hopefully others will recall this (copied from an unmentionable site) :


"Hi all,

This memory came back to me recently and I started wondering what the heck it was they gave us. I was in middle school in the 70's, 76 to 80 and one day they pulled us down to the auditorium in groups and gave us shots with these airgun type hypodermic "needles". I don't remember the exact year.

Does anyone else remember this happening to them?

I am really curious as to what it was. Was it a flu vaccine?

Since I started having health problems a couple of years later, I wonder if it was connected.

If anyone had these or was involved in the "program" I would love to know what your thoughts are.

Thank you."

Another reply:

"Yes...I do remember getting shots in school but I could not tell you what they were for. I would have started Kindergarten in probably '76.

I wonder what it could have been..I'll have to call my mom and see if she might remember"

And original op again:



"It started out with IBS in high school, now it is depression, fibromyalgia and constant migraines.

It just kept increasing over the years...my whole body just hurts all the time"


Gen X was dosed!!!

Yeah, it's getting pretty dark the further I read through it. Not so much the content of the posts, as the behavior of some of the posters. I've been surfing the internet for a long damn time now (since AOL), and I know a distraction campaign when I see one. The few bits of actual, useful information coming through doesn't paint the nicest picture of what these programs were all about.

Something too this I think.

I know there is! I ran screaming around the room to keep them from getting me! They had to catch me and hold me down. My mom claims she knows nothing of it. It was a strange mechanical needle.
I was healthy and energetic before they got me. After that I was sick all the time. My brain wasn't functioning properly but nobody listened. Then I got osteomilitis in my ankle... Couldnt walk, just fell to the ground. Finally got some rest and a tutor for a month in the hospital. Never trusted school again.

Last Edited by FunnyStrange on 09/21/2019 01:01 AM

Bit ironic that most of GLP and the internet in general have become one big distraction (noise) campaign. The signal ratio's much higher in this thread than anywhere else on GLP.

I definitely have no memories of anything like that, but from what I gather, there were various stages and iterations of this program. I have a weird scar on my right upper arm. When I was younger, it was bulky, like a stab wound would make (as opposed to a scalpel). It's practically faded from existence now, but it showed up some time around the same time I was in GATE.

Not sure I'm going to keep up with this thread much longer this time around. Some of the pertinent information I am running across is disturbing, to say the least. I need to process that with some of the imagery that's bubbling to the surface.

For some reason I am seeing an image of a unicorn over and over, something I have no real interest in or draw towards. But it feels like the unicorn image matters, heavily.

If I glean any actual, useful information, I'll come back and share it. I've been an on-again, off-again GLPer since 2008. Sometimes registered, often an AC, and always here for the mysteries, not the politics. This thread is a welcome return to posting for me, but I think it's time I bowed back out of the picture for a little while and deal with some of the skeletons that are now smashing their way through my mental closet doors.

To others who have been through the programs, I'll just share with you the most important thing this thread has shown me in the 200 pages I've managed to get through - it is that we are not alone, and we are not (completely) crazy.

Me too
Oxnard California

Me too
Oxnard California

Me too
Oxnard California

I am sorry you went through all that - its sounds horrible.

Can you expand on this?