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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75364664 United States 07/21/2021 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you just finding this topic, understand that this thread is a deep rabbit hole, and that there is no "payoff" to be found. At best, it was an irresponsible teaching experiment with roots in eugenics. At worst...well, that's the part none of us have ever been able to answer. Read the thread, absorb the information, but don't let it make you crazy. Ancient history now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12306812 United States 07/21/2021 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the welcome!! I can remember just knowing how to read at 3 years old I had read a whole set of encyclopedias my father had bought at an auction.No one taught me how to read I just knew how and was talking about the pachyderms at the circus and floored my parents as to how I knew that word. Quoting: Thetruth1973 Do you find you still learn practically by osmosis? The ability to learn is very dependent on G Factor and not IQ. The speed of the learning is also qualitative and quantitative which makes measuring intelligence to a value very difficult. A basic outline 50+ Educable, can learn to care for oneself, employable in routinized jobs but require supervision. 70+ Limited trainability. Have difficulty with everyday demands like using a phone book, reading bus or train schedules, banking, etc. 80+ Can perform explicit routinized hands-on tasks without supervision as long as there are no moments of choice and it is always clear what has to be done. Assembler, food service. Some people assume you need an IQ of 85 to understand the "Golden Rule" 90+ Able to learn a trade in a hands-on manner and perform tasks involving decisions. Craftsman, sales, police officer, clerk. An IQ of 100 is generally necessary to learn from written materials. 110+ can learn in "college" format. Manager, teacher, accountant. 120+ Capable of gathering and inferring own information. Master degrees. 130+ May just be able to write a legible piece of text like an article or modest novel. Minor literary figures. Ph.D. in the "soft" sciences. 140+ Capable of rational communication and scientific work. Once armed with this knowledge, compare this chart to IQ by country. [link to worldpopulationreview.com (secure)] Important average IQ measures near the US... Japan: 105 USA: 98 Mexico: 87 Guatemala 79 And then Africa Nigeria: 87 Equatorial Guinea: 59 Be afraid, because the expectation is civilization collapses if the average IQ is under 90. It's the West propping up the rest of the world which is responsible for the level of civilization we see today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72235004 United States 07/23/2021 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One more Very curious what other MGM/GATE/Etc students think of current events. I have some theories, that are *mostly* supported by the limited available evidence. I'll spill them if there's any interest. I do think we're all about to be in a world of serious s*** here shortly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80494981 United States 07/23/2021 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still here, eh? Nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80494981 Well, I got a lot of certificates and training in many fields, degree in IT, latest cert in nano, but never made money. Its not what ya know, its who ya know. But, Im helping people with health issues now, and animal rescue. Still learning. I wish all the best. Its not easy living in society when one is different, thats for sure. For example, I have no interest in the movie "ass," and do not go to cosco or carls jr. "Ow, my balls" is not funny to me either. Guess I will stay home and brighten this corner, lol. Right there with you. I don't understand most things that people find so hilarious. I will never understand the appeal of Will Ferrell. And I don't have the certs, but am still considered a specialist in a wide number of fields (and also made no money). I get the work, I just don't charge what I should. I assume you are autodidactic? Way too autodidactic! Hope you are happy in your life, no matter the income. Everything that goes in the mind gets used in some small way during ones lifetime it is said, so grateful for ability to share with others and sometimes help self as well. Interesting place we live. |
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User ID: 73678169 United States 08/02/2021 03:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Were you ever removed, many times, from your regular class for "testing"? Quoting: Jane Grey 862970 Were you shown a series of high speed images on a television, not once, but many times? Was the school psychologist selectively interested in you? I was in GATE. I don't remember most of GATE. It wasn't in California. It was in the South. I moved around a bit and always ended up in GATE. I did speech therapy. The high speed images on a tv strikes a chord. But I only get the impression of a memory. Like sitting in a small room with no windows. There is one of those folding tables with the faux wood finish. The tv is that ugly beige color and bulky but didn't look like a normal tv like I had at home. I don't remember what was on the screen. I do remember being shown videos from Nazi Germany experiments when I was in middle school. It was traumatic and very graphic. ShieldedMaiden |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80129990 United States 08/02/2021 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you all think your local school board transferred your GATE/TAG metrics to the state superintendents who then later transferred your metrics and background information to the department of ed and/or mil research or universities? To that end...do you think you are still under observation? I was thinking that...maybe the TAG/GATE kids were exposed to something via vaccination and parents were unaware they consented to biomedical research long term studies. I am fairly certain some percentage of gifted children were targeted for gangstalking as adults but no clue as to why unless they are the real Indigo Children. |
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User ID: 73678169 United States 08/03/2021 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you all think your local school board transferred your GATE/TAG metrics to the state superintendents who then later transferred your metrics and background information to the department of ed and/or mil research or universities? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80129990 To that end...do you think you are still under observation? I was thinking that...maybe the TAG/GATE kids were exposed to something via vaccination and parents were unaware they consented to biomedical research long term studies. I am fairly certain some percentage of gifted children were targeted for gangstalking as adults but no clue as to why unless they are the real Indigo Children. I know I was watched for a long time. Some of it had to do with my Grandpa who was high up in the DOE. Some of it I'm not really sure. I was repeatedly offered jobs in the government. I worked for the government private sector. Spooks or sneaky squirrels trend to run in families. My reasoning for this is because they would rather go with known people rather than unknowns. If you've been watched all your life, then they know you. I think if I wanted to go back I would be welcomed with open arms. I am not sure I could handle it though. My previous job left me very paranoid (understandably so). ShieldedMaiden |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80694035 United States 08/08/2021 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you all think your local school board transferred your GATE/TAG metrics to the state superintendents who then later transferred your metrics and background information to the department of ed and/or mil research or universities? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80129990 To that end...do you think you are still under observation? I was thinking that...maybe the TAG/GATE kids were exposed to something via vaccination and parents were unaware they consented to biomedical research long term studies. I am fairly certain some percentage of gifted children were targeted for gangstalking as adults but no clue as to why unless they are the real Indigo Children. FWIW... I requested my school docs some time ago. They would only turn over 1 piece of paper mentioning my participation in the program which was correspondence between my teacher and Johns Hopkins University when I was in 7th grade. Said no other records existed. I asked if there was a way to contact my teacher and they stated that she had retired years ago and had no contact info because she wasn't faculty - ie she was not an employee of the school district. Interesting, no? Exactly who was she working for? Why were they interested in me? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80538159 United States 08/08/2021 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was living in Englewood FL. I have an extremely weird memory and cannot make sense of it. My friend for whatever reason had a pass where we were able to leave class, and we would go into a faculty break room. She had been there several times before she took me. We ate food and goofed off? I remember eating those hostess cupcakes, but I do remember hiding in a cabinet for some reason, I do not remember any adults. But I do feel we got caught and got in trouble or told not to come back. I just find it strange as adult looking back as to why we had a pass and a secret room at an elementary school. I don't have any memories of abuse but maybe my friend was being abused or groomed.?? Anyway I wonder if parents realize thier children were being taken out of class,or given passes to leave. And more Importantly is this still being done today. |
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User ID: 80114572 United States 08/28/2021 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a fascinating thread. I believe I was one of the first year's crop of kiddos. I remember they taught us how to speed read, which was a big thing in 1971. It worked too well. I cannot read slowly. Ever. Sometimes I want to read every word and savor it, but it's like fighting with my brain. Speed reading is great for fact gathering, but it sucks for literary enjoyment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80527188 United States 08/29/2021 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Bourla CEO of [P]fizer Bourla/alruob Al Roub = god in arabic the individual responsible for more slave tagging than anyone ever known has a name that is the literal INVERSION of god. Jeff Bezos yacht - Flying Fox [P]teropus (suborder Yinpterochiroptera) is a genus of megabats which are among the largest bats in the world. They are commonly known as fruit bats or flying foxes [P] [P]sephizo, the count [link to biblehub.com (secure)] [P]haroah farmer of men, knows the count. 'the count' depicted as a vampire on 'seasame' street... kjv rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80687188 United States 09/02/2021 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you all think your local school board transferred your GATE/TAG metrics to the state superintendents who then later transferred your metrics and background information to the department of ed and/or mil research or universities? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80129990 To that end...do you think you are still under observation? I was thinking that...maybe the TAG/GATE kids were exposed to something via vaccination and parents were unaware they consented to biomedical research long term studies. I am fairly certain some percentage of gifted children were targeted for gangstalking as adults but no clue as to why unless they are the real Indigo Children. Should be obvious to us everyone in modern society's under tech "observation." Vaxxes were given to all kids not just us. Program was direct with DC, nothing to do with local or state boards. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80312081 United States 09/07/2021 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No but thinking back I had some surreal ideas as a child. In the second grade I wrote that I wanted to discover the secrets behind the universe. Still not sure why I wrote that or would even have that thought at that age |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80843910 United States 09/07/2021 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was living in Englewood FL. I have an extremely weird memory and cannot make sense of it. My friend for whatever reason had a pass where we were able to leave class, and we would go into a faculty break room. She had been there several times before she took me. We ate food and goofed off? I remember eating those hostess cupcakes, but I do remember hiding in a cabinet for some reason, I do not remember any adults. But I do feel we got caught and got in trouble or told not to come back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80538159 I just find it strange as adult looking back as to why we had a pass and a secret room at an elementary school. I don't have any memories of abuse but maybe my friend was being abused or groomed.?? Anyway I wonder if parents realize thier children were being taken out of class,or given passes to leave. And more Importantly is this still being done today. I remember wandering in an empty wing of my Junior High. I would just leave class and go there by myself. I feel like the rest of the memory is blocked though. That school was so old and creepy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80843910 United States 09/07/2021 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was living in Englewood FL. I have an extremely weird memory and cannot make sense of it. My friend for whatever reason had a pass where we were able to leave class, and we would go into a faculty break room. She had been there several times before she took me. We ate food and goofed off? I remember eating those hostess cupcakes, but I do remember hiding in a cabinet for some reason, I do not remember any adults. But I do feel we got caught and got in trouble or told not to come back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80538159 I just find it strange as adult looking back as to why we had a pass and a secret room at an elementary school. I don't have any memories of abuse but maybe my friend was being abused or groomed.?? Anyway I wonder if parents realize thier children were being taken out of class,or given passes to leave. And more Importantly is this still being done today. I remember wandering in an empty wing of my Junior High. I would just leave class and go there by myself. I feel like the rest of the memory is blocked though. That school was so old and creepy. This was in New England... |