Astrophysicists: Best case scenario is the end of Western civilization as we know it. | |
Astronut
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 02/16/2010 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence. Last Edited by Astromut on 02/16/2010 10:49 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 682255 United States 02/16/2010 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence. Quoting: AstronutDon't know how close this companion will come, or how close it needs to come, to cause calamity. Time will tell, I imagine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 892553 United States 02/16/2010 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, people are dropping out of society in droves. We are literally spending money like there is no tomorrow. Money is worth NOTHING unless you have millions. No one seems capable or concerned to fix our societal issues. They know there is no point. Welcome to the new dark ages. |
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(OP) User ID: 682255 United States 02/16/2010 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, people are dropping out of society in droves. We are literally spending money like there is no tomorrow. Money is worth NOTHING unless you have millions. No one seems capable or concerned to fix our societal issues. They know there is no point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 892553Welcome to the new dark ages. Unfortunately, I think you're largely correct. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 436473 United States 02/16/2010 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, who is he and why should we believe him? My cousin is a Phd astrophysicist who works for the US navy. Haven't spoken to him for awhile but If he had any pertinent information he could disclose - he would. Furthermore, if he even suspected troubles ahead he would have given us a heads up. Regardless, next time I speak to him I'll ask what he knows about this so-called neutron star - and anything else that we should be concerned about. |
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User ID: 869150 United States 02/16/2010 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence. Quoting: AstronutHoly shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it. Now, I'm really fucking scared regarding the existance of this supermassive object. Last Edited by NascentLife on 02/16/2010 11:35 PM |
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User ID: 869150 United States 02/16/2010 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My cousin is a Phd astrophysicist who works for the US navy. Haven't spoken to him for awhile but If he had any pertinent information he could disclose - he would. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436473Assuming your story is true, there is no possible way you could be certain that your cousin would give you such information if he knew it. I can think of at least five consequences, and a multitude of scenarios, which would prevent my cousins from divulging this type of information to me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 878917 United States 02/17/2010 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, unless they have developed super-robots, when TPTB get out of their DUMBs they are going to have fun learning what it's like to do their own labor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 871118Yeah, I've thought about that aspect of things too... Surely they are taking a cross-section of the population and not just those with deep enough pockets to purchase their way in! If not, it would certainly be a sight to behold... can you just imagine? lol Most of the women in "that league" would fall into a hissy fit if they had to actually do anything like real or dirty work. On another thought... who would sell their soul into outright slavery to these celebs, corp. heads and politicos and elites for the opportunity of a little higher chance of survival? You can't tell me that Anyone has the last word on what is actually going to happen, how to prepare adequately or where might be safe. AND... If it is an ELE and they do survive, there will be few resources and no replacement of any manufactured products without the whole infrastructure to produce them. How long do you think most of these folks will survive then? It's no wonder advanced civilization has never made it past one of these events... I just bet those in power have repeatedly attempted to hide the truth and maintain some sense of control rather than alerting the whole population while they all still had decades to prepare and time to do it right. Funny how that works... you have to give it all away to have it at all. **sigh** and another time around the wheel . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 893316 Oman 02/17/2010 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end of western civilization and population reduction of 30-50%? And the bad news is? Humanity is overcrowding this planet to such a degree that wars are being fought for no reason other than resources. Science seems to be 90% devoted to finding better ways to wage said wars. Should nature decide to do a bit of culling she'll as least be a bit fairer, she doesn't care what religion you are or how many weapons your country can afford to buy. Earth could do with a good old whitewash and restart. |
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User ID: 890698 United States 02/17/2010 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence. Quoting: Astronutyou again? why? you never post anything except for negative comments to px or ufo's. is that really all you come here to do? are you a fucking bot or just a shill? seriously, this shit heats me up. astronut is not real. his name is deceptive. i've been here for a while and frequently. i have never seen this guy post anything but 'smart guy' sounding 'facts' (according to him) that dispute anything px or ufo related. i guess he's just a guy that scours glp everyday looking for px or ufo threads just to put in his point that everyone is wrong, the universe is boring and everything is normal. he is not real. YOU are not your body, YOU are inside of your body. Your body is temporary, but YOU are forever. "All those prophets don't hear that Cosmic laughter." |
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User ID: 717743 United States 02/17/2010 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence. Quoting: AstronutYou are spot on. These two don't sound like real scientists. A neutron star even passing a light year to two light years by would have a demonstrable effect on the orbits of the outer planets. It was most likely the close approach of a minor star that lead to the rain of debris we see evident on the surface of the moon some 3.5 billion years ago when many of the craters on the moon were formed. A neutron star closer would play holy havoc. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 612617 Pakistan 02/17/2010 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, unless they have developed super-robots, when TPTB get out of their DUMBs they are going to have fun learning what it's like to do their own labor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878917Yeah, I've thought about that aspect of things too... Surely they are taking a cross-section of the population and not just those with deep enough pockets to purchase their way in! If not, it would certainly be a sight to behold... can you just imagine? lol Most of the women in "that league" would fall into a hissy fit if they had to actually do anything like real or dirty work. On another thought... who would sell their soul into outright slavery to these celebs, corp. heads and politicos and elites for the opportunity of a little higher chance of survival? You can't tell me that Anyone has the last word on what is actually going to happen, how to prepare adequately or where might be safe. AND... If it is an ELE and they do survive, there will be few resources and no replacement of any manufactured products without the whole infrastructure to produce them. How long do you think most of these folks will survive then? It's no wonder advanced civilization has never made it past one of these events... I just bet those in power have repeatedly attempted to hide the truth and maintain some sense of control rather than alerting the whole population while they all still had decades to prepare and time to do it right. Funny how that works... you have to give it all away to have it at all. **sigh** and another time around the wheel . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 810898 Greece 02/17/2010 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Astronut. The gravitational force exerted by such a companion-star to our Sun would cause unpredictable changes to the orbits of the planets of our solar system. If there was something very close to us, it would have created measurable perturbations already. I wouldn't trust the opinions of some unknown astrophysicists that have no means to do an acceptable research, but they rather speculate on the existence of this celestial body. In the same path, I could say that the Earth could be swallowed by a traveling small black hole (there is a word for celestial objects that are not in any kind of orbits but rather they pass through or between other solar systems). Believe in nothing and always give a thorough thought of what you hear from left and right. PS: as always, sorry for my crappy english! I hope that hanging around GLP is a good place to improve 'em. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 883716 United States 02/17/2010 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | may i be the first sure these things are possible, and will happen at some time, Large CME, or some sort of nearby star going nova and sending his energy hurdling, a rogue asteroid perhaps. the question not if but when. Our sun will eventually die out. But we will be long gone. Many many things can happen but Im calling BS for the mean time |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 851525 United States 02/17/2010 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm listening and so far I'm leery. Baruch is basing his informtion on two phd astrophysicists, yet doesnt provide names to back up this claim. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436473So, who is he and why should we believe him? My cousin is a Phd astrophysicist who works for the US navy. Haven't spoken to him for awhile but If he had any pertinent information he could disclose - he would. Furthermore, if he even suspected troubles ahead he would have given us a heads up. Regardless, next time I speak to him I'll ask what he knows about this so-called neutron star - and anything else that we should be concerned about. Your cousin knows. He's just not speaking. I was told by a low ranking navy seaman that they were informed years ago about major earth changes coming. His exact words were " get some kind of spirituality becasue the world will be in chaos". He spoke mostly of the extreme weather. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 893355 Belgium 02/17/2010 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, people are dropping out of society in droves. We are literally spending money like there is no tomorrow. Money is worth NOTHING unless you have millions. No one seems capable or concerned to fix our societal issues. They know there is no point. Quoting: SFXWelcome to the new dark ages. Unfortunately, I think you're largely correct. |
JoeNeubarth
User ID: 851017 United States 02/17/2010 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 682255 United States 02/20/2010 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself Quoting: JoeNeubarthIn your OPINION. All of this stuff is speculation, after all. Can't hurt to listen to al sources, formulate opinions, and prepare accordingly. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 682255 United States 04/16/2010 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself Quoting: JoeNeubarthBTW, the approaching nuetron star does not emit light, and therefore is not visible to the naked eye. It does emit radiation and has a substantial gravitational force. It's affecting the entire solar system. It turns out our sun is a variable star (not stable) and is in a binary system with the neutron star. |
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