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Astrophysicists: Best case scenario is the end of Western civilization as we know it.

 
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Well, unless they have developed super-robots, when TPTB get out of their DUMBs they are going to have fun learning what it's like to do their own labor.
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They made sure to take enough dumb labourers with them so they'll be fine.
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A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.


Holy shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

Now, I'm really fucking scared regarding the existance of this supermassive object.


But of course. He's paid to debunk such findings.
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Screw you, I'm not paid to do anything of the sort.

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I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.
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i see why you call yourself astroNUT.
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Don'T you love idiots who have no clue what they are talking about? The twin star would HAVE to be a brown dwarf... Else, we'd see it nice and clear....

And as for your DOOMSDAY again... Humanity will survive, it always has. Tards like you sitting in front of a computer screen all day won't.

Core heating up?!? LOL what a moron, it's molten iron idiot, how can it heat up more, DOH!

Oh and the deep underground bunkers, ROFL, you think they won't be the first to be destroyed?!?

The basses on the moon as well as the colony on Mars will insure survival of the species... Alternative 3, ever heard of it?
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Benjamin Baruch used to be a regular on Steve Quayle's show. That should tell you enough right there.
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Don'T you love idiots who have no clue what they are talking about? The twin star would HAVE to be a brown dwarf... Else, we'd see it nice and clear....

And as for your DOOMSDAY again... Humanity will survive, it always has. Tards like you sitting in front of a computer screen all day won't.

Core heating up?!? LOL what a moron, it's molten iron idiot, how can it heat up more, DOH!

Oh and the deep underground bunkers, ROFL, you think they won't be the first to be destroyed?!?

The basses on the moon as well as the colony on Mars will insure survival of the species... Alternative 3, ever heard of it?
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From what I'm gathering, all of the underground stuff is just imitating squirrel behavior. It isn't practical to take all of this stuff off planet so they are burying as much as possible so they will have a chance of having access to it when they decide it's safe to come back.
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It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.
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typical for most responses to posts on glp. they dont bother to even read/listen to what they comment on and literally dont know what they're talking about.
You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in.
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A****NUT .... Bet you still ride a bicycle, let go of the handlebars and YELL, " LooK at ME ! "

Why not ask mamma, politely, if you can move BACK into her basement ?

MIGHT just let you, fool !
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A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.


Holy shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

Now, I'm really fucking scared regarding the existance of this supermassive object.
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Actually he has a point.. If such an object existed and was close enough to be considered a companion star, and especially close enough as the interview stuff suggests, we'd be seeing the effects of it's pull by now, in a quite obvious and dramatic way.

That's just the way it is.. no amount of wishing will change that heh
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It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

typical for most responses to posts on glp. they dont bother to even read/listen to what they comment on and literally dont know what they're talking about.
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You don't know what you're talking about, I do. Even though these stars are dim, they'd have massive gravitational effects and even putting that aside for a moment, they'd still be observable from a light year away. Take the neutron star in the crab nebula, for instance. At about 6,300 light years away it's only magnitude 16.5 as seen from earth. That means its absolute magnitude is about 5.07. If it were 1 light year from earth it would appear in the sky at a stunning magntide -2.5! Now granted the M1 neutron star is unusually bright; the typical neutron star has an absolute magnitude of 14 ("The neutron star" Physics Letters A, Volume 26, Issue 12, Pages 646-647) and at 1 light year a neutron star of absolute magnitude 14 would shine at an apparent magnitude of 6.4 - still within naked eye visibility! So which naked eye star is our "neutron star" and where are its gravitational effects?

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whenever the debunkers show up, you're on to something. If there's nothing to it, Asstronuts, why don't you just let them rant and have their fun. Methinks the only reason you argue so hard is because of your fear.
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whenever the debunkers show up, you're on to something. If there's nothing to it, Asstronuts, why don't you just let them rant and have their fun. Methinks the only reason you argue so hard is because of your fear.
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I enjoy debunking their bullshit. I'm not the one living in fear of something that doesn't exist, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let it stand unchallenged. Rather than applying a piss poor excuse for logic in stating that my presence here proves it no matter what I say, how about arguing with the substance of what I'm saying? Oh wait, you can't, because you have no substance to offer!

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sounds alarming
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Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself


BTW, the approaching nuetron star does not emit light, and therefore is not visible to the naked eye. It does emit radiation and has a substantial gravitational force. It's affecting the entire solar system. It turns out our sun is a variable star (not stable) and is in a binary system with the neutron star.

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Everyone knew our sun is a variable! It has a cycle that lasts 11 years! Every star with a 'starcycle' that has a 'minimum' and a 'maximum' is a variable star! Dumb-ass.
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whenever the debunkers show up, you're on to something. If there's nothing to it, Asstronuts, why don't you just let them rant and have their fun. Methinks the only reason you argue so hard is because of your fear.

I enjoy debunking their bullshit. I'm not the one living in fear of something that doesn't exist, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let it stand unchallenged. Rather than applying a piss poor excuse for logic in stating that my presence here proves it no matter what I say, how about arguing with the substance of what I'm saying? Oh wait, you can't, because you have no substance to offer!
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Tackle the post by AC #901059 and let's see where this really goes.

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Well, unless they have developed super-robots, when TPTB get out of their DUMBs they are going to have fun learning what it's like to do their own labor.


I don't believe they will be coming out. I believe they've built their own burial tombs. The earth will shake and crush them forever. I believe this will be God's merciful way of finally ridding the earth of the evil ruling elite.

At least this is what I'm hoping for...

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They will never come out and if they did can you imagine the human savages on he surface that have a new society without government they'd get pay back coming to them.
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Actually he has a point..
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correct.
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everything rides this planet as a passenger, we have no control over it, never will, God is in control. If you believe in the bible and believe Revelations is going to bring about the 'end' of the world as we know it and God is going to remake heaven and earth, I can believe that the creator would use something like this to bring about the end.

I often wondered what would scare human beings enough to run into the mountains and beg them to come down upon them, that fear would be so great that people would lose their minds.
All the cups and bowels that angels will pour out on the earth in punishment and warning to look to God to save your soul before your too late.

All adds up to me.
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Benjamin Baruch used to be a regular on Steve Quayle's show. That should tell you enough right there.
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Who the fuck is Steve Quayle?
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The ability for humans to latch on to whatever idea happens to float their way and tickle their fancy, without any kind of proof or anything remotely close to evidence, will never cease to amaze me.

Have you tried waking up?
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whenever the debunkers show up, you're on to something. If there's nothing to it, Asstronuts, why don't you just let them rant and have their fun. Methinks the only reason you argue so hard is because of your fear.

I enjoy debunking their bullshit. I'm not the one living in fear of something that doesn't exist, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let it stand unchallenged. Rather than applying a piss poor excuse for logic in stating that my presence here proves it no matter what I say, how about arguing with the substance of what I'm saying? Oh wait, you can't, because you have no substance to offer!
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I appreciate your input.

Could you do me a favor with something completely unrelated please?

This guy scared the absolute shit out of me. Another fucking religious guy. Any truth to what says? I am assuming you have watched this.

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why don't you just let them rant and have their fun.

I enjoy debunking their bullshit.

and I'll be damned if I'm going to let it stand unchallenged.
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I'm glad you're here to debunk it! I've only just found this website and I'm enjoying sifting through the B.S.

If you weren't here I may have just believed it!
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A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.
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It may come close just enough to cause some of mentioned problems and not more or less it's not like it will enter the solar system I dont think so. If it's true, but I believe our problems are related to the solar system transit in the equatorial plane of the milky way as we approach it things are shaking more and more.
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There are orbital perturbations on the outer planets.
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No, there are not.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
Plus, the Entire solar system would be near equally effected
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LOL, where's the proof of that? Do you have any idea of how wide the solar system is? The effects on Jupiter and Saturn alone would be wildly different right now because of how far apart they are from each other. The gravity the two would feel from a hypothetical massive object approaching the inner solar system would be quite different.
The gravitational effects are beginning.
- No more use of high rise cranes. The slightest change in gravity causes them to fall. Many cranes were inspected just prior to collapsing.
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LMFAO! Oh, so it effects the planets all the same many AUs apart, but the height of a crane causes the gravity felt to change and causes it to fall. Absolute bullshit double-talk.
- Bridges are less stable, more collapses. Explains the cover up report of how bad US bridges really are.
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Same as above. More bullshit.
- Increased Earthquakes Undeniable increases
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Same as above. More bullshit. If tidal forces are causing earthquakes, they'd be affecting the different planets VERY differently. You can't have it both ways.
- Increased Volcanic activity Undeniable increases
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Same as above. More bullshit. If tidal forces are causing earthquakes, they'd be affecting the different planets VERY differently. You can't have it both ways.
- Greater high/low tides beyond casual explaination. Oceans around the world have seen unexplainable increases in tide maximum/minimum. Up to 4' beyond normal
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Same as above. More bullshit. If tidal forces are causing earthquakes, they'd be affecting the different planets VERY differently. You can't have it both ways. In fact, the fact that you just tried to have it both ways disproves your theory right there. You're done.
- Entire solar system heating up Due to the heat from the inbound star increasing the heat all planets receives
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Where the hell is it optically then? If it's that luminous we would see it. I calculated the apparent magnitude above, it would be naked eye brightness even at 1 light year away.

- Increases in Sun bound comets from South the solar system. Recently about 6 very large objects hit the Sun in a couple of weeks. Very rare to have 3.
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Kreutz group comets frequently hit the sun and are NOT rare. Thousands have been found since SOHO started observing. The ones that hit recently were not even close to "very large." I've spent a lot of time searching for comets with SOHO, those were not unusual at all.
- Incoming rocks, comets and meteors is now classified data This was big news a year or so ago
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Bullshit! I'm an amateur astronomer and like all amateur astronomers I can announce whatever I find regardless of whether it's "incoming" or not. There is no cover up, the information is not classified, in fact you can see all current threats as soon as they're found; amateur help is enlisted in getting observations to improve the orbital calculations. The only thing that was classified were observations made by spy satellites observing earth that sometimes see fireballs that are already hitting earth, not shit that's still "incoming" after the observation is made. What you did is you took this headline at face value rather than reading what it really said:
"Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified"
[link to www.space.com]
If you read the story you find that the observations by spy sats of fireballs was classified, not "incoming space rocks."
- Seed vaults and other great underground structures being built in the shadows We all know the popular seed vault
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How is this proof of a neutron star? It could just as easily be proof of rich people buying into the globullwarming scam. This is handwaving and does not necessitate "death from above."
- The oldest library owned by the Vatican was disassembled and disappeared. Vatican said it had a crack in the foundation and needed to close for repairs. The library hasn't closed in the longest time, hundreds of years. Now it is gone.
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More handwaving to unrelated bullshit.
- Solar cycle expected to be very intense. This is known
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Again, this in no way proves anything, it's just more useless handwaving. You might as well handwave to hurricane season forecasts.
- Governments world wide are moving critical systems inland. In example, the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, ect all moving to the hills
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Are we done with the useless handwaving yet? You're boring me.
- Historical information. Nearly every ancient culture has written about a great event that can be easily seen as what we are talking about now.
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You mean, easily be shoehorned into what you're talking about now. Confirmation bias. It's like the guy I was arguing with about wormwood. He thinks it's a brown dwarf, I and most other christians disagree, but you see what you want to see to fit your world view.
- The greatest astronomers in recorded history are the writters of 12/21/2012. The Mayans have a calendar and astronomical knowledge that is still superior to modern day technological accomplishments.
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Bullshit. The mayans were off by more than a dozen years; the alignment they were aiming for in 2012, the year the sun supposedly aligns with the galactic core on winter solstice, occured most directly in 1998 and is now tapering off each year. 2012 is almost at the tail end of the alignment, which finishes in 2016. Close, but no cigar, and no match for modern techniques and technology.
And using a government official reports won't work since the governments already stated they wouldn't release such information if it were true in fear of social collapse.
 Quoting: AC

Translation; "I'll reject all your sources and plug my ears because I don't want to challenge my beliefs."

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WARNING: after I clicked the link to the interview, my internet connection was mysteriously disabled for a time until I ran some emergency first aid to the router.
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Don'T you love idiots who have no clue what they are talking about? The twin star would HAVE to be a brown dwarf... Else, we'd see it nice and clear....

And as for your DOOMSDAY again... Humanity will survive, it always has. Tards like you sitting in front of a computer screen all day won't.

Core heating up?!? LOL what a moron, it's molten iron idiot, how can it heat up more, DOH!

Oh and the deep underground bunkers, ROFL, you think they won't be the first to be destroyed?!?

The basses on the moon as well as the colony on Mars will insure survival of the species... Alternative 3, ever heard of it?
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Every single one you guys is an idiot.

The earth is hollow if there was anything remotely liquid the plates of our planet would be in movement constantly.

There would be nothing else than quakes and volcanic eruptions in fact there would be a surfaceat all it would sink in the magma morons.

Our tectonic plates are being held by the inner star in our planetwhich is holding the pieces together.

The crust is only 800 km thick below that nothing nada rien niet except the inner star in the center.

No wonder they call you sheep...
i would have called you people donkeys but hey ya all knew that don't cha.
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If it's true, but I believe our problems are related to the solar system transit in the equatorial plane of the milky way as we approach it things are shaking more and more.
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LOL, actually we're getting away from the supposed "alignment" more and more every year - the peak was in 1998. The alignment has occured every year throughout our planet's history, in fact, just not necessarily on the day of winter solstice, and that's what the mayans were trying to get at. There's nothing actually magical about solstice, however.
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It may come close just enough to cause some of mentioned problems and not more or less it's not like it will enter the solar system I dont think so. If it's true, but I believe our problems are related to the solar system transit in the equatorial plane of the milky way as we approach it things are shaking more and more.
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Who can say? I'm no scientist, but I thought the information as presented in the audio clip was fascinating, if not entirely accurate.

Is this neutron star perturbation scenario plausible? Perhaps. The next few years will certainly tell.
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It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

typical for most responses to posts on glp. they dont bother to even read/listen to what they comment on and literally dont know what they're talking about.
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Haha, this is laughable. I'd rather take astros view than some joker on a radio show that doesn't mention his sources and is full of factually incorrect info. Astro actually knows what he's talking about. You, or the guy in the recording doesn't. And yes, I did listen to it this morning when it was posted in a different thread.

Keep wishing for that doom Satanist. Isn't that what some of the muslims in the middle east wish for to bring on the antichrist? Personally I am not religious but I notice on here a lot of people wish for doom which can be closley compared to wishing for the Antichrist, or being a Satanist! If you are a christian and wish for this then god will surely punish you!

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