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Astrophysicists: Best case scenario is the end of Western civilization as we know it.

 
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If it's true, but I believe our problems are related to the solar system transit in the equatorial plane of the milky way as we approach it things are shaking more and more.

LOL, actually we're getting away from the supposed "alignment" more and more every year - the peak was in 1998. The alignment has occured every year throughout our planet's history, in fact, just not necessarily on the day of winter solstice, and that's what the mayans were trying to get at. There's nothing actually magical about solstice, however.
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You have removed the important bit of my post, and I dont agree with you in the reply, we are not out of the equatorial plane just instruments have measured we are not inside the milky way disc at all so how could we have already passed it?
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You have removed the important bit of my post, and I dont agree with you in the reply, we are not out of the equatorial plane just instruments have measured we are not inside the milky way disc at all so how could we have already passed it?
 Quoting: GONG

I think you're confusing our physical location, which is out of the plane of the galactic disc and has been for a while now, and an alignment of the sun and galactic core's apparent position on the day of winter solstice, created by precession rather than our true position within the galaxy.
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why don't you just let them rant and have their fun.

I enjoy debunking their bullshit.

and I'll be damned if I'm going to let it stand unchallenged.


I'm glad you're here to debunk it! I've only just found this website and I'm enjoying sifting through the B.S.

If you weren't here I may have just believed it!
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+1

The man is saving lives.
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Is there an article to read instead of a broadcast?
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Of course not...think about it. Supposedly this is a "companion neutron star" with an orbit of 24,000 years. This of course would imply that EVERY 24,000 years it would have the same effect and the human race...and the planet...is still here.

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I'm listening and so far I'm leery. Baruch is basing his informtion on two phd astrophysicists, yet doesnt provide names to back up this claim.

So, who is he and why should we believe him?

My cousin is a Phd astrophysicist who works for the US navy. Haven't spoken to him for awhile but If he had any pertinent information he could disclose - he would. Furthermore, if he even suspected troubles ahead he would have given us a heads up. Regardless, next time I speak to him I'll ask what he knows about this so-called neutron star - and anything else that we should be concerned about.
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Key word is could. He can't what if you tell people? He gets in trouble.

I've heard second hand from a guy with similar credentials that it is happening, and this was 10 years ago. The guy was retired and really old. He also said that TPTB don't even know if they will survive. What underground bunker is safe from new mountain ranges forming?

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Yes, we know the astrophysicists want funding but let me tell them that making up stories is not going to acheive that and let me add:

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91 out of 3759

y is this pinned
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Translation; "I'll reject all your sources and plug my ears because I don't want to challenge my beliefs."
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Amazing how perfectly this describes you.

You're so proud and protective of your little telescope and your nightly stargazing that you refuse to believe anyone could have information that you don't - and doesn't fit your 'theories' about the universe.

You're a petty, little, close-minded old man, no better than the 'flat-earthers' of the 15th century.

If you're not a paid debunker (which would elevate your status tremendously), they you're just sad and pathetic.

The earth couldn't possibly be round, could it?

Is 'Bullshit' your favorite word?

Or is "get off my lawn, you kids!" your favorite phrase?
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underground bunkers will NOT save them...



end times are here.


thank you Papa...


thank you
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Translation; "I'll reject all your sources and plug my ears because I don't want to challenge my beliefs."


Amazing how perfectly this describes you.

You're so proud and protective of your little telescope and your nightly stargazing that you refuse to believe anyone could have information that you don't - and doesn't fit your 'theories' about the universe.

You're a petty, little, close-minded old man, no better than the 'flat-earthers' of the 15th century.

If you're not a paid debunker (which would elevate your status tremendously), they you're just sad and pathetic.

The earth couldn't possibly be round, could it?

Is 'Bullshit' your favorite word?

Or is "get off my lawn, you kids!" your favorite phrase?
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So, if this thing happens every 24,000 years why are we still here? Where is the huge anomaly in the fossil record recording this mass extinction?

You are gullible to believe any old shit like this that gets posted here at least once a week.
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Amazing how perfectly this describes you.
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Oh really? Show me the evidence of a neutron star approaching our solar system and I'll believe it. You're not giving me evidence, you're giving me horseshit.
You're so proud and protective of your little telescope and your nightly stargazing that you refuse to believe anyone could have information that you don't - and doesn't fit your 'theories' about the universe.
 Quoting: AC

You're pissing on my back and telling me its raining. You can't make such outlandish claims as this and expect people like me to accept it or even leave in unchallenged. What you're claiming here would have directly observable impacts on the positions of the planets. I'm sorry you have such a huge problem with observational evidence, but it's a fact that observations are in direct contradiction of this claim. Period.
You're a petty, little, close-minded old man, no better than the 'flat-earthers' of the 15th century.
 Quoting: AC

Unlike the "flat-earthers," I seek and accept evidence that would support or disprove a theory. The evidence disproves this outlandish theory. The 'flat-earthers' here are the people like you who refuse to accept observations in favor of ridiculous and unsupported claims.
If you're not a paid debunker (which would elevate your status tremendously), they you're just sad and pathetic.
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If I'm "sad and pathetic" to you I'm probably doing something right.

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I'm listening and so far I'm leery. Baruch is basing his informtion on two phd astrophysicists, yet doesnt provide names to back up this claim.

So, who is he and why should we believe him?

My cousin is a Phd astrophysicist who works for the US navy. Haven't spoken to him for awhile but If he had any pertinent information he could disclose - he would. Furthermore, if he even suspected troubles ahead he would have given us a heads up. Regardless, next time I speak to him I'll ask what he knows about this so-called neutron star - and anything else that we should be concerned about.
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I'm afraid he would not tell you anything friend.Because they would shoot him in the back of the head.
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You have removed the important bit of my post, and I dont agree with you in the reply, we are not out of the equatorial plane just instruments have measured we are not inside the milky way disc at all so how could we have already passed it?

I think you're confusing our physical location, which is out of the plane of the galactic disc and has been for a while now, and an alignment of the sun and galactic core's apparent position on the day of winter solstice, created by precession rather than our true position within the galaxy.
 Quoting: Astronut



Maybe I have explained myself not correctly but by alignment I was talking about physical alignment in the galactic disk. I have just listened yesterday to a nasa viseo where they were just talking about this fact that we are directed trough it bunching in and out of this disc cyclically and therefore my post.
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Fascinating interview with Benjamin Baruch who interview two expert astrophysicists. They confirmed a companion neutron star to our sun that has an elliptical orbit of approximatlely 24,000 years. It's nearing the solar system and causing major problems between 2011 and 2017. (The earth's core heating up which is fragmenting the magnetosphere, the appearance of multiple north and south poles/shifting, windspeed bursts nearing mach 1, tsunamis, continental plates shifting, etc...)

12/21/2012 is only one day in the midst of what will take place over a 7-year period. All governments are aware and are preparing bunkers for the elites and TPTB.

Best case scenario: The end of Western civilization as we know it. Loss of life on the magnitude of 30 - 50% of the population.

Worst case scenario: (You don't want to know!)

Confidence level of the astrophysicists: 99.9%

IMHO, it's worth listening to:

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Over a 7 year period!?!
As in 7 years of tribulation? shocked


Hmmm.. Where did I hear that before? scratching
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You're pissing on my back and telling me its raining. You can't make such outlandish claims as this and expect people like me to accept it or even leave in unchallenged. What you're claiming here would have directly observable impacts on the positions of the planets. I'm sorry you have such a huge problem with observational evidence, but it's a fact that observations are in direct contradiction of this claim. Period.
 Quoting: Astronut


*gives a standing ovation* You tell'em.

I'm all for science fiction becoming science fact, but without the facts, it's just fiction.
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I am certainly no expert.. but if they are invisible, why can I find pictures of them?
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Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself


BTW, the approaching nuetron star does not emit light, and therefore is not visible to the naked eye. It does emit radiation and has a substantial gravitational force. It's affecting the entire solar system. It turns out our sun is a variable star (not stable) and is in a binary system with the neutron star.

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Hmm... thought it was a brown dwarf. Suddenly it's a neutron star.

It is my understanding - and you can correct me if I'm wrong -- that brown dwarfs become neutron stars become black holes, and that this takes probably trillions of years.

So... I ain't buyin' it. Evidence towards brown dwarf is greater, and I highly doubt there's a brown dwarf and a neutron star incoming towards our solar system.

Something's happening, but I don't buy that it's a neutron star.
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So, if this thing happens every 24,000 years why are we still here? Where is the huge anomaly in the fossil record recording this mass extinction?

You are gullible to believe any old shit like this that gets posted here at least once a week.
 Quoting: Defjam Zero


A: If there were evidence of mass extinction occurring on such a cycle, you can be sure it would be protected by the scientific cabal that controls information and perception.

Maybe I WILL just go and check Cremo's book to see what he has to say about it.

B: I never said I believed any of it. Go back to my original response to ASStroNuts. I said "let THEM have THEIR fun."

This is an entertainment site - and for those of you like ASStroNUTS that don't get it - it's just sad and pathetic to watch you make fools of yourselves.
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You're pissing on my back and telling me its raining. You can't make such outlandish claims as this and expect people like me to accept it or even leave in unchallenged. What you're claiming here would have directly observable impacts on the positions of the planets. I'm sorry you have such a huge problem with observational evidence, but it's a fact that observations are in direct contradiction of this claim. Period.


*gives a standing ovation* You tell'em.

I'm all for science fiction becoming science fact, but without the facts, it's just fiction.
 Quoting: Khim


You're as stupid as ASStroNUTS. I wasn't making any claims.

Learn how to read. Maybe you wouldn't have immigration problems if you knew how to read better.
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*gives a standing ovation* You tell'em.

I'm all for science fiction becoming science fact, but without the facts, it's just fiction.
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Not necessarily "fiction," but rather hypothesis. As I've stated, time will tell if this is anywhere near accurate. I just thought it was a fascinating account and worthy of independent thought.
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[link to stalking] is a crime/i/750pxneutronstarcrossse.jpg/
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is a link to image shack now considered stalking?
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You're pissing on my back and telling me its raining. You can't make such outlandish claims as this and expect people like me to accept it or even leave in unchallenged. What you're claiming here would have directly observable impacts on the positions of the planets. I'm sorry you have such a huge problem with observational evidence, but it's a fact that observations are in direct contradiction of this claim. Period.


*gives a standing ovation* You tell'em.

I'm all for science fiction becoming science fact, but without the facts, it's just fiction.
 Quoting: Khim


+1
BIG Badaboom!

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Damn, the shills came out of the woodwork for this one. People on here, i've never seen post before
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Benjamin Baruch used to be a regular on Steve Quayle's show. That should tell you enough right there.
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Say no more.... I won't give this thread a second thought....
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Damn, the shills came out of the woodwork for this one. People on here, i've never seen post before
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Unfortunately, they aren't shills. They're humorless assholes from Badass-tronomy. They come out of the wordwork in gangs when anybody posts something that is 'Their' territory.

The hit every forum like this...
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Bring on the doom.
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and its all about the confidence..
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Benjamin Baruch used to be a regular on Steve Quayle's show. That should tell you enough right there.
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here we go .. more 'Attack The Messenger' disinfo.

honestly, some of us on glp *DO* understand the Disinformation Techniques quite well, and atm is one of the oldest in the books.

try again?
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This guy scared the absolute shit out of me. Another fucking religious guy. Any truth to what says?
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geesh .. you've discredited him right off the bat so not matter WHAT he says he's wrong.

for those with eyes to see, and ears to hear and a brain to understand .. john moore is an ex military intelligence analyst, ex homicide detective, and has been studying p-x for nearly a decade. his sources inside the military - from whom he gets frequent 'feeds' - are extensive.

and yea - you should be scared.
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You're pissing on my back and telling me its raining. You can't make such outlandish claims as this and expect people like me to accept it or even leave in unchallenged. What you're claiming here would have directly observable impacts on the positions of the planets. I'm sorry you have such a huge problem with observational evidence, but it's a fact that observations are in direct contradiction of this claim. Period.

 Quoting: Leeloominai



I assume you're referring to me. Again, I'm not making the claim. I'm simply forwarding on interesting information. Discard it and move on, if that's your proclivity.

By the way, the "observations" you cite are subject to change, are they not? I believe much of this is yet to occur.





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