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Astrophysicists: Best case scenario is the end of Western civilization as we know it.

 
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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:


WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?
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A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.


you again? why? you never post anything except for negative comments to px or ufo's. is that really all you come here to do? are you a fucking bot or just a shill? seriously, this shit heats me up.

astronut is not real.

his name is deceptive. i've been here for a while and frequently. i have never seen this guy post anything but 'smart guy' sounding 'facts' (according to him) that dispute anything px or ufo related.

i guess he's just a guy that scours glp everyday looking for px or ufo threads just to put in his point that everyone is wrong, the universe is boring and everything is normal.

he is not real.
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He supposedly works in Big Pharma. Probably looking for an answer to the little winky he was born with. It does look as though he quit pounding a six pack of redbull before posting though.
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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:


WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?
 Quoting: Dragonslayer2001 810654

Question for astronut...in one year with more earthquakes and volcanoes and coastal events will you please kill yourself? Total shillnut.
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A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.
 Quoting: Astronut


Blah blah blah. I know more than these astrophysicist jokers.

dumbass
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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:


WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?
 Quoting: Dragonslayer2001 810654


How come those massive changes don't include unpredicted movements of the planets?

After all, the planets are still following their predicted paths from more than a century ago. See transit and occultation tables.

Right now, a supposed chaos-causing intruder has about as much positive evidence a the dragon in my garage.

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Astronut +100

All else, frankly, with no proof whatsoever of such an outlandish claim (neutron star???!!! are you joking?!) can just consider this a waste of reading time.

VERY small brown dwarf to make up for mass calculations?? A huge, huge maybe... but until verified, which could be done by anyone with even half-way decent equipment and nothing else to do for a year every single night... I call-

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He supposedly works in Big Pharma.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815185

More like small pharma.
It does look as though he quit pounding a six pack of redbull before posting though.
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Darn, must be loosing my touch.
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Blah blah blah. I know more than these astrophysicist jokers.
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I don't even believe there are real astrophysicist jokers behind this claim; names are never given, let alone anything verifiable. I can claim to be a PhD of whatever I want, but how are you going to check with my school unless I give you a name?
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I don't even believe there are real astrophysicist jokers behind this claim;
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and - let me guess - i bet you also believe your ancestors are baboons?
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Question for astronut...in one year with more earthquakes and volcanoes and coastal events will you please kill yourself? Total shillnut.
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Kill myself? Wow, I thought the debunkers were supposed to be the "evil hate mongers." No, I'm not going to kill myself. You should be happy nonetheless; since I live in a coastal area I'll be one of the first to die if you're right about an approaching neutron star. Prepare for disappointment though, as there's no sign of you being right. All the earthquakes in the world are meaningless with regard to this claim unless and until the planets start appearing in the wrong places in the sky.
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I don't even believe there are real astrophysicist jokers behind this claim;
and - let me guess - i bet you also believe your ancestors are baboons?
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WTF does darwinism have to do with this claim being complete bullshit? Talk about a red herring, you've got a real whopper right there. And for you to have the arrogance to assume you know what I believe about darwinism... Frankly it's none of your damn business, it's not something I discuss publicly as it might jeopardize my current academic pursuits.
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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:
WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?
 Quoting: Dragonslayer2001 810654

Well the planets are all right where they're supposed to be, so I can tell you some of the things that aren't causing it. Why don't you tell us what is causing it since you obviously think you know?
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Bump for Astronut for decreasing the level of doomtard in GLP.
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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:
WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?

Well the planets are all right where they're supposed to be, so I can tell you some of the things that aren't causing it. Why don't you tell us what is causing it since you obviously think you know?
 Quoting: Astronut


If the audio account is accurate, the approach of the "little brother" star is the cause of the perturbations. If it's real, I don't know how far out it is, or how close to the solar system it will approach, but it is purportedly affecting the sun as well. The gradual breakdown of the magnetosphere is one side effect.

When it comes to potential things of this celestial magnitude, I like to think I'm just smart enough to adhere to a wait-and-see philosophy rather than poo-poo other hypotheses.
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If the audio account is accurate, the approach of the "little brother" star is the cause of the perturbations.
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What perturbations? Who's reporting perturbations that need explaining? That should be the big news, not the hypothesis of what's behind it. Some cart before the horse going on there.
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Is there an article to read instead of a broadcast?
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+1,000,000
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What perturbations? Who's reporting perturbations that need explaining? That should be the big news, not the hypothesis of what's behind it. Some cart before the horse going on there.
 Quoting: Astronut


The electromagnetic "heating up" of the solar system, magnetosphere breakdown, purported change in Mercury, etc...
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There MUST be perturbations or NASA wouldn't be in a frenzy.
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I don't get why there is so much hate for my man, Astro !

He makes a stunning argument against.... well... no opposing argument!

Where is the freaking evidence? I won't rule-out that there are things that TPTB wouldn't want us to know...

but the arm chair astronomer crowd is too big to NOT notice effects like those mentioned by the no-name "astrophysicists"...

The only caveats I will throw-out here concerning major doomage for societies are these:

Santorini
Thera
Crete
Pompeii
Alexandria

(and all the other 'unknown' civilizations which are no more.

However, they didn't have Astronut or his diligent friends with telescopes... (and about 400 years of astronomy & physics)

Don't toss the observant skeptic out with the speculative BS !!
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Most of you are missing the point.
You are not going to wake up one morning and see a
giant in the sky that has never been there before.
You are going to experience, continuing and
exponential destabilization of earth.
Flooding.
Fires.
Earthquakes.
Volcanic eruption.
Later will be very high winds,
100 ft tidal waves, loss of the grid
world wide over an 18 hour timeframe,
displacement of land masses by moving
seas and oceans, rising land masses
out of oceanic depths, and then a
restabilization period, into opposite
spin.

Underground bunkers will not be survivable.

We are a negatively charged environment.
We could be positively charged after this.

After reading responses though, I can sure
see why so many will die.

Keep on having those wars though.
That will fix everything.
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A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.
 Quoting: Astronut

Drunken planets...
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All you have to do to understand what is happening
(for lay people like Astronut) is
locate true north, then locate magnetic north,
then check the location of those two points in
1950.

Then compare the rate of separation between
these two point in 1950 and in the year 2000.

You might have to dig up some books at campus
libraries though, because information on google
is being scrubbed almost as fast as it can be
posted.
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astronut is not real.
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His words however are real. I can read them.

Do you have a comment on those, or are you just trying to distract from them?
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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:
WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?

Well the planets are all right where they're supposed to be, so I can tell you some of the things that aren't causing it. Why don't you tell us what is causing it since you obviously think you know?


If the audio account is accurate, the approach of the "little brother" star is the cause of the perturbations. If it's real, I don't know how far out it is, or how close to the solar system it will approach, but it is purportedly affecting the sun as well. The gradual breakdown of the magnetosphere is one side effect.

When it comes to potential things of this celestial magnitude, I like to think I'm just smart enough to adhere to a wait-and-see philosophy rather than poo-poo other hypotheses.
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Do you understand what this chart means?

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It might help your argument.
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Nemesis nearing our Solar system and causing major problems between 2010 and 2017.



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A QUESTION FOR ASTRONAUT:


WHAT IS CAUSING THE MASSIVE CHANGES IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS?
 Quoting: Dragonslayer2001 810654


the sun you fuck nut.
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every 24,000 years this second star visitor infects massive amounts of people who become fervently exuberant causing temporal lobes to evolve and the real seratonin to flow. TPTB give up their bloodlust for material things and revel in the free energy of double the sunlight available to all and TPTB begin to repent for their sins by offering everyone free chocolate, cruises on their big boat, and some nice buttons. The dual sunsets bring happy people to seashores in pirate knickers with picnic baskets full of marmalade....everyone quits their money-dope-crack-hate addictions and begin living the utopian ideal...ie....i'm not sure if sex with mermaids is animal sex but i just gotta know what that fish taco feels like.....the dead rise but the oceans don't....weeeee.... bring on the third star toooooooo...weeee, jesus and buddha will beat you up if you don't smell my tatoo
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Look I am not denying the possibility of the sun having a dead companion star... evidence tends to lean towards this given observations of other stars in the galaxy.

However, a neutron star? People who really don't understand physics, especially in the area of the mass-gravity relationship could easily believe this. But a neutron star is so damned massive that it is just shy of becoming a blackhole, if one were approaching the solar system there would be a shitload more evidence of its effect on the solar system. No, if a neutron star was approaching, even if a few light years out, amatuer astronomers (such as astronut) would see far more evidence of it and it wouldn't stay quiet.

A brown dwarf I could buy, though I am wary of accepting the possibility at the moment... but a neutron star is just absurd.
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I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.


Blah blah blah. I know more than these astrophysicist jokers.

dumbass
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I doubt the astrophysicists in question were actually astrophysicists, let alone real.

I'm no astrophysicist and even I know such an object would be blatantly obvious to everyone if it was that close, both directly and indirectly through it's effects.

What's going on in the solar system is nothing at all compared to what would happen if such a thing came near.
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