Astrophysicists: Best case scenario is the end of Western civilization as we know it.

What perturbations? Who's reporting perturbations that need explaining? That should be the big news, not the hypothesis of what's behind it. Some cart before the horse going on there.


The electromagnetic "heating up" of the solar system, magnetosphere breakdown, purported change in Mercury, etc...

A brown dwarf I could buy, though I am wary of accepting the possibility at the moment... but a neutron star is just absurd.

Holy shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

Now, I'm really fucking scared regarding the existance of this supermassive object.

Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself


BTW, the approaching nuetron star does not emit light, and therefore is not visible to the naked eye. It does emit radiation and has a substantial gravitational force. It's affecting the entire solar system. It turns out our sun is a variable star (not stable) and is in a binary system with the neutron star.

It's a brown dwarf, emits hardly any light and reflects none.,

There are orbital perturbations on the outer planets.

No, there are not.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

Plus, the Entire solar system would be near equally effected

LOL, where's the proof of that? Do you have any idea of how wide the solar system is? The effects on Jupiter and Saturn alone would be wildly different right now because of how far apart they are from each other. The gravity the two would feel from a hypothetical massive object approaching the inner solar system would be quite different.

The gravitational effects are beginning.
- No more use of high rise cranes. The slightest change in gravity causes them to fall. Many cranes were inspected just prior to collapsing.

LMFAO! Oh, so it effects the planets all the same many AUs apart, but the height of a crane causes the gravity felt to change and causes it to fall. Absolute bullshit double-talk.

- Bridges are less stable, more collapses. Explains the cover up report of how bad US bridges really are.

Same as above. More bullshit.

- Increased Earthquakes Undeniable increases

Same as above. More bullshit. If tidal forces are causing earthquakes, they'd be affecting the different planets VERY differently. You can't have it both ways.

- Increased Volcanic activity Undeniable increases

Same as above. More bullshit. If tidal forces are causing earthquakes, they'd be affecting the different planets VERY differently. You can't have it both ways.

- Greater high/low tides beyond casual explaination. Oceans around the world have seen unexplainable increases in tide maximum/minimum. Up to 4' beyond normal

Same as above. More bullshit. If tidal forces are causing earthquakes, they'd be affecting the different planets VERY differently. You can't have it both ways. In fact, the fact that you just tried to have it both ways disproves your theory right there. You're done.

- Entire solar system heating up Due to the heat from the inbound star increasing the heat all planets receives

Where the hell is it optically then? If it's that luminous we would see it. I calculated the apparent magnitude above, it would be naked eye brightness even at 1 light year away.

- Increases in Sun bound comets from South the solar system. Recently about 6 very large objects hit the Sun in a couple of weeks. Very rare to have 3.

Kreutz group comets frequently hit the sun and are NOT rare. Thousands have been found since SOHO started observing. The ones that hit recently were not even close to "very large." I've spent a lot of time searching for comets with SOHO, those were not unusual at all.

- Incoming rocks, comets and meteors is now classified data This was big news a year or so ago

Bullshit! I'm an amateur astronomer and like all amateur astronomers I can announce whatever I find regardless of whether it's "incoming" or not. There is no cover up, the information is not classified, in fact you can see all current threats as soon as they're found; amateur help is enlisted in getting observations to improve the orbital calculations. The only thing that was classified were observations made by spy satellites observing earth that sometimes see fireballs that are already hitting earth, not shit that's still "incoming" after the observation is made. What you did is you took this headline at face value rather than reading what it really said:
"Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified"
[link to www.space.com]
If you read the story you find that the observations by spy sats of fireballs was classified, not "incoming space rocks."

- Seed vaults and other great underground structures being built in the shadows We all know the popular seed vault

How is this proof of a neutron star? It could just as easily be proof of rich people buying into the globullwarming scam. This is handwaving and does not necessitate "death from above."

- The oldest library owned by the Vatican was disassembled and disappeared. Vatican said it had a crack in the foundation and needed to close for repairs. The library hasn't closed in the longest time, hundreds of years. Now it is gone.

More handwaving to unrelated bullshit.

- Solar cycle expected to be very intense. This is known

Again, this in no way proves anything, it's just more useless handwaving. You might as well handwave to hurricane season forecasts.

- Governments world wide are moving critical systems inland. In example, the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, ect all moving to the hills

Are we done with the useless handwaving yet? You're boring me.

- Historical information. Nearly every ancient culture has written about a great event that can be easily seen as what we are talking about now.

You mean, easily be shoehorned into what you're talking about now. Confirmation bias. It's like the guy I was arguing with about wormwood. He thinks it's a brown dwarf, I and most other christians disagree, but you see what you want to see to fit your world view.

- The greatest astronomers in recorded history are the writters of 12/21/2012. The Mayans have a calendar and astronomical knowledge that is still superior to modern day technological accomplishments.

Bullshit. The mayans were off by more than a dozen years; the alignment they were aiming for in 2012, the year the sun supposedly aligns with the galactic core on winter solstice, occured most directly in 1998 and is now tapering off each year. 2012 is almost at the tail end of the alignment, which finishes in 2016. Close, but no cigar, and no match for modern techniques and technology.

And using a government official reports won't work since the governments already stated they wouldn't release such information if it were true in fear of social collapse.

Translation; "I'll reject all your sources and plug my ears because I don't want to challenge my beliefs."

Ummm. While a neutron star has about 1.5 solar masses, the typical SIZE is around 15 miles in diameter. That amounts to looking for a needle ina haystack. And NO, you wouldn't see this massively dense, yet small object as it emits most of it's light as X-rays.

Fascinating interview with Benjamin Baruch who interview two expert astrophysicists. They confirmed a companion neutron star to our sun that has an elliptical orbit of approximatlely 24,000 years. It's nearing the solar system and causing major problems between 2011 and 2017. (The earth's core heating up which is fragmenting the magnetosphere, the appearance of multiple north and south poles/shifting, windspeed bursts nearing mach 1, tsunamis, continental plates shifting, etc...)

12/21/2012 is only one day in the midst of what will take place over a 7-year period. All governments are aware and are preparing bunkers for the elites and TPTB.

Best case scenario: The end of Western civilization as we know it. Loss of life on the magnitude of 30 - 50% of the population.

Worst case scenario: (You don't want to know!)

Confidence level of the astrophysicists: 99.9%

IMHO, it's worth listening to:

[link to www.watchmanscry.com]

If you don't want to challenge your beliefs, you wouldn't be posting at GLP. Unless you have an agenda.

Your either the typical brainwashed sheep or a paid shill.

Your voluminous reply is obnoxious and full of hate

Astronut...

Reply to this... Explain why you as a human with limited eyesight from specific light rays would see a Neutron star by the naked eye or telescope for that matter when the definition is quite clear that Neutron Star's emit only X-Ray light and are only detectable by such method!

It would be greatly appreciated if you would do so!

A celestial body consisting of the superdense remains of a massive star that has collapsed with sufficient force to push all of its electrons into the nuclei that they orbit, thus leaving only neutrons, and having a powerful gravitational attraction from which only neutrinos and high-energy photons can escape, rendering the body detectable only by x-ray.

Ummm. While a neutron star has about 1.5 solar masses, the typical SIZE is around 15 miles in diameter. That amounts to looking for a needle ina haystack. And NO, you wouldn't see this massively dense, yet small object as it emits most of it's light as X-rays.

Size is irrelevant as all stars and most asteroids already appear as point light sources due to their size/distance ratios. Before you can say whether we would or wouldn't see it you need to look at the actual hard numbers. Size is irrelevant; it'll appear to be a point light source just like every other star. Absolute magnitude in visible light is the ONLY thing that matters. If you run the numbers you'll see that yeah it'd be dim by eye, but easily detectable by telescope.

Astronut...

Reply to this...

Explain why you as a human with limited eyesight from specific light rays would see a Neutron star by the naked eye or telescope for that matter when the definition is quite clear that Neutron Star's emit only X-Ray light and are only detectable by such method!

Not everyone has a Hubble in their backyard!

Don't get pissed just answer with a specific how to, if you can do so.

That way your method for doing so may be tested by any person with a NORMAL telescope. Simply by going outside and attempting to view one in a known location by your method.

Not everyone has a Hubble in their backyard!

See my calculations above. You wouldn't need a hubble in your backyard to see the very neutron star you mentioned if it were in fact in a 24,000 year orbit of the sun as claimed in this thread. In fact, you wouldn't need any telescope at all, just your eyes and a dark sky.

Don't get pissed just answer with a specific how to, if you can do so.

The "how" would be to look and hope one is there within thousands of astronomical units instead of thousands of light years.

That way your method for doing so may be tested by any person with a NORMAL telescope. Simply by going outside and attempting to view one in a known location by your method.
You want to see one far from earth? Well it being visible is usually contingent on it being close to the solar system. If it's within a light year or so, just do widefield imaging with a decent APO refractor down to magnitude 12 and look for anything with a high proper motion year to year.

*If you want to see one far from earth, just look to the center of the crab nebula for this star:
[link to www.astro.caltech.edu]
You can probably recognize it by the pattern of surrounding stars in this amateur image:
[link to www.astrosurf.com]
It's there, near the center.

Holy shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

Lets not forget people:


dere's gold in dem dere dooms!

The book/program "The Great Year" says that the Sun has a binary companion -- rubbish
The Great Year is a term used to describe the 25,000 year cycle of precession of the Earth's axis of rotation around the pole of its orbit. This term has been used for quite a long time, but doesn't in any way refer to WHY the precession occurs (when the term was invented, it was thought to be a 'natural' motion of the stars, which occurred in additional to their daily motion around the sky).
Precession occurs because of the gravitational effects of the Moon and Sun on our equatorial bulge. This is referred to as the 'lunisolar' theory, and is the ONLY accepted theory of precession.
However, there is an alternative theory, based on an 1894 book which was itself based on ancient Oriental philosophies of the motions of heavenly bodies, which suggests that precession is caused, at least in part, by the Sun orbiting around some unknown stellar companion, with an orbital period of 24,000 years. This is the theory that you must have heard discussed in the program. I was, frankly, quite surprised and disturbed to hear that this program was based on such nonsense. There are small discrepancies in the lunisolar theory calculations, which is quite common in any application of theory of any sort to the real world, but the idea that some unknown companion of the Sun can be in any way responsible for these discrepancies is absolute rubbish. If there were such a star, and it was close enough so that it could have a 24,000 year orbital period, it would produce many other, very noticeable effects on our Solar System, particularly on comets and the outer planets, and there is absolutely no way that this can be true; and in any event, those effects would NOT be related to precession, which involves the axis of rotation of the Earth, and not its orbital motion.
Frankly, this reminds me of some very similar rubbish, about 30 years ago, about a nonexistent star dubbed Nemesis, which supposedly had a 26-million year orbital period, and was responsible for periodic waves of comets being thrown into the Solar System, destroying everything in their path. At least in that case, it was possible to show that the theories involved were not only ridiculous, but also that the mathematics involved was completely faulty, without having to invest additional time in a fruitless search for the nonexistent object.

[link to cseligman.com]



Um, sorry but that "rubbish" is getting a new looking into...by NASA no less!
[link to www.astrobio.net]

Ah yes, NASA - a name you can trust LOL.


Jeez! Make up your mind will ya? Ya can't have it both ways. First you're debunking the idea of Nemesis and when I point out that the scientific community is actually looking into the possibility you decide to debunk NASA.
And I'm not saying NASA is to be totally trusted but they are obviously investing time and money into checking out "something" so you can't dismiss the notion of Nemesis or something else that we have yet to discover.
You should look into Sickscents threads here on GLP. Very intriguing stuff and isn't complete "rubbish" like this thread.

Holy shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

Now, I'm really fucking scared regarding the existance of this supermassive object.

+1

Total bullshit. There is no appearance of a star with that magnitude in the heavens. Maybe in a billion years, but not now. All you have to do is look up and see for yourself


BTW, the approaching nuetron star does not emit light, and therefore is not visible to the naked eye. It does emit radiation and has a substantial gravitational force. It's affecting the entire solar system. It turns out our sun is a variable star (not stable) and is in a binary system with the neutron star.

A neutron star? Those things are pretty damn massive, with a minimum mass greater than the sun itself! If one of those were anywhere near the inner solar system, we'd see some hella huge gravitational perturbations on the positions of the outer planets. Things would be seriously out of whack with their predicted locations, especially with lower mass bodies such as asteroids. I don't know who these jokers think they are, but their claim doesn't fit the observational evidence.

Is there an article to read instead of a broadcast?

Not that I know of. Sorry.

Holy shit! It took only 4 minutes for Astronut to "find" this thread and type up a response to it.

Now, I'm really fucking scared regarding the existance of this supermassive object.

+1




agreed, his shillery is a verification of truth.