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Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????

 
DOOM WATCHER
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Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
Can some explain to me what Timewave Zero and what Novelty theory is beyond what is explained in Wikipedia??

Would really like to know and since it is a term used around here quite a lot I was hoping that one of you would be able to give a detailed explanation.

Thank you!!
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02/24/2010 11:01 PM
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Well ... Terence McKenna developed a computer model of time ... said that nature loves novelty ... novelty happens at specific times in history ... his computer model pinpoints all the times in history when some type of abrupt change happened ... and based on the model it can predict what is going to happen in time. I believe it is based on the I Ching. It all points to 2012, when he says this "Attractor" is pulling us toward itself ...

Also time twists in tighter and tighter spirals. We revisit historic events and as time spirals the time between events shortens ... and we are nearing the tightest point of the spiral of this timeframe ...

From what I remember he came up with 2012 independently from the Mayan calendar or any other thing that has pointed to that year. These things were not so out in the open at the time he came up with his model.
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BTW sorry ... I didn't check Wikipedia so hope I didn't repeat what has been said.
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"ROME FALLS 9 TIMES PER HOUR"

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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
Well ... Terence McKenna developed a computer model of time ... said that nature loves novelty ... novelty happens at specific times in history ... his computer model pinpoints all the times in history when some type of abrupt change happened ... and based on the model it can predict what is going to happen in time. I believe it is based on the I Ching. It all points to 2012, when he says this "Attractor" is pulling us toward itself ...

Also time twists in tighter and tighter spirals. We revisit historic events and as time spirals the time between events shortens ... and we are nearing the tightest point of the spiral of this timeframe ...

From what I remember he came up with 2012 independently from the Mayan calendar or any other thing that has pointed to that year. These things were not so out in the open at the time he came up with his model.
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Does any one have the cycle for this year to show? banana2
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Does any one have the cycle for this year to show? banana2
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Thread: HOLY GUACAMOLE BATMAN! - TIMEWAVE ZERO 2010 CONFIRMATION
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I understand that when the timewave's novelty factor rises and falls, it usually corresponds with significant events

And the timewave is a repeating fractal that goes faster and faster as it approaches the zero point

But I have not seen a good explanation of what novelty (in the context of timewave) actually is.

What is NOVELTY?!
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it only makes sense on acid
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NOVELTY means progress, inventions, new kind of events that never happened before, and novelty will become infinite by winter 2012. So that change will be the only thing existing to experience.

important dates for 2010 are February 25- March 4 , March 20-21, April 1, April 15, 16, June 5, July 2, July 11, July 26, July 31, October 6-7, November 14 and December 18.

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That link does not work.
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ok, so what do the peaks and valleys on the graphs mean?

From what i can gather, the peaks are periods of higher novelty (ie, big changes/events) and the low spots are what exactly -- less changes, more sameness???

If thats the case, then as the wave approaches 2012 there will be fewer big events and less novelty until existence ends in a singularity of entropy? Or is it the other way around? If it is the other way around, does that mean that the upward trend in the graph for a portion of this year going into the summer means that less big events will happen?

I guess i want to know what is good on the graph and what is bad, and what exactly "good" is defined as, and what exactly "bad" is defined as. What happens when the graph reaches zero???
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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
ok, so what do the peaks and valleys on the graphs mean?

From what i can gather, the peaks are periods of higher novelty (ie, big changes/events) and the low spots are what exactly -- less changes, more sameness???

If thats the case, then as the wave approaches 2012 there will be fewer big events and less novelty until existence ends in a singularity of entropy? Or is it the other way around? If it is the other way around, does that mean that the upward trend in the graph for a portion of this year going into the summer means that less big events will happen?

I guess i want to know what is good on the graph and what is bad, and what exactly "good" is defined as, and what exactly "bad" is defined as. What happens when the graph reaches zero???
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Did you watch any of the links provided?

TM explains it best when he uses WW II.
Huge dip while all the fighting was going on.
Dips are changes, differences, novelty, good or bad.

Then after WW II we had more than enough fighting. We wanted a simple life of white picket fences, sports, and mowing the lawn.
The graph went up.
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Link to actual calculator

[link to timewave2012.com]

Listen to the man himself tell you about his theory.





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An upward movement from the graph means less novelty like during war. A Downward movement means sliding into novelty, i.e. the 60's

[link to timewave2012.com]
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How were the novelties generated on the graph?

Were the world events input into a graph generator?
Or was the graph created first and the world events fit accordingly?
- if this is the case, what equation was used to generate the graph?



I was initially lead to believe the graph was generated from the I Ching King Wen sequence, or inspired by it

As there is 64 * hexagrams, they used a 64*6 equation and it correlated to a lunar cycle.

Then this resulted in numerical sequences pertaining to many astronomical anomolies (cycle of sunspots, cycle of zodiacal ages etc.) which all correlate to a fractal sequence regarding the 6*64 function.

so if my understanding is correct,
where do these astronomical fractal sequences, fit into the graph?

I have only seen the world events correlating to the graph, and not the astronomical number sequences correlating to the graph.

Does anyone have a copy of the graph, with both the astronomcal events correlating, as well as the world events?


thankyou
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How were the novelties generated on the graph?

Were the world events input into a graph generator?
Or was the graph created first and the world events fit accordingly?
- if this is the case, what equation was used to generate the graph?



I was initially lead to believe the graph was generated from the I Ching King Wen sequence, or inspired by it

As there is 64 * hexagrams, they used a 64*6 equation and it correlated to a lunar cycle.

Then this resulted in numerical sequences pertaining to many astronomical anomolies (cycle of sunspots, cycle of zodiacal ages etc.) which all correlate to a fractal sequence regarding the 6*64 function.

so if my understanding is correct,
where do these astronomical fractal sequences, fit into the graph?

I have only seen the world events correlating to the graph, and not the astronomical number sequences correlating to the graph.

Does anyone have a copy of the graph, with both the astronomcal events correlating, as well as the world events?


thankyou
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19216389


I too am looking for a copy of the timewave zero java software, I had it, reformated last week and lost it. No where on the next except one which charges.
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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
the old dos-program by Meyer can still be found with a simple google search...
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it only makes sense on acid
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Fuck off!!
Mckenna was a genius, you are just a moran.
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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
Terrence was a hippie bum. Look at the dude for god sakes! How can you take this guy seriously! He doesn't even know how to shave his own face! Dude did drugs and thought he learned some secret knowledge LOL

This man PURPOSELY ended his timewave zero graph on December 21, 2012 to match the end of the Mayan Calendar LOL! Some "amazing" calculations if you ask me. whatever
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
On top of my last post, you can change the end date on the graph to almost any date and the graph will hit zero LMAO!
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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This man PURPOSELY ended his timewave zero graph on December 21, 2012 to match the end of the Mayan Calendar LOL!
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yes. but that was the only way the theory actually worked out. so it's a question like chicken and egg... but since causality is an illusion, according to the i ching, this is all a moot point.

On top of my last post, you can change the end date on the graph to almost any date and the graph will hit zero LMAO!
 Quoting: MayanGod

no. you can set the end-date manually, and when you do that it naturally sets to zero, because that is the singularity of novelty.
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This man PURPOSELY ended his timewave zero graph on December 21, 2012 to match the end of the Mayan Calendar LOL!
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yes. but that was the only way the theory actually worked out. so it's a question like chicken and egg... but since causality is an illusion, according to the i ching, this is all a moot point.

On top of my last post, you can change the end date on the graph to almost any date and the graph will hit zero LMAO!
 Quoting: MayanGod

no. you can set the end-date manually, and when you do that it naturally sets to zero, because that is the singularity of novelty.
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Yes, when you set the end-date manually, and when you do that it naturally sets to zero, because that is the singularity of novelty is correct. BUT.......it changes the graph. It changes the slopes. When you do change it manually, the graph hits zero many times. It doesn't hit zero just at the end. Which makes his whole software a bunch of bs.
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
Yes, when you set the end-date manually, and when you do that it naturally sets to zero, because that is the singularity of novelty is correct. BUT.......it changes the graph. It changes the slopes. When you do change it manually, the graph hits zero many times. It doesn't hit zero just at the end. Which makes his whole software a bunch of bs.
 Quoting: MayanGod

no. it just shifts the timescale. wrap your head around the math.
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Re: Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory -- WHAT IS IT?????
NOVELTY means progress, inventions, new kind of events that never happened before, and novelty will become infinite by winter 2012. So that change will be the only thing existing to experience.

important dates for 2010 are February 25- March 4 , March 20-21, April 1, April 15, 16, June 5, July 2, July 11, July 26, July 31, October 6-7, November 14 and December 18.
 Quoting: joiner ex-from future


I understand that 'novelty' in the context of Timewave Zero and Novelty Theory simple means something that is out of the ordinary ie. the rare it is the more novelty it has. This can be positive and negative in terms of the results and effects on us all. Its also not about things that "never happened before" - just things that occur less frequently than the hypothetical normal.
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Novelty can be viewed as increased interconnections within a system...





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