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Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.

 
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Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.
Thanks to Tali for pointing this out.

Here's the licensing use, redistribution policy from the AP. They're saying to you re-post for free with their ad's. I'm very confused by the doublespeak.

Reuters doesn't have that disclaimer. They're saying you can re-post their content but, not for profit.

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Last Edited by It's hot here on 07/27/2010 05:47 PM
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07/27/2010 05:43 PM
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Re: Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.
So it all ends up boiling down to money again?
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Re: Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.
So does this mean there can be no sharing of information without a cost?

Sharing information is what sites like GLP thrive on.
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Pretty much....but I have NEVER seen

"© Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed."

at the bottom of a news article....ever! Are they going to do this with actual newspapers (the ones made out of paper) too?

WTF????
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07/27/2010 05:46 PM
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Re: Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.
Guess we'll have to scan our news in from now on and post...
Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette
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So it all ends up boiling down to money again?
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Yes and no, if you go to their site, click the copyright info, you can post their content for free, but with ads.

I understand intellectual property rights but it's not like we're stealing content and posting as our own. Jesus, if you post something w/o a link the shit hits the fan by the posters.
It really is!

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Ignorance and obscurantism have never produced anything other than flocks of slaves for tyranny...
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Re: Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.
So it all ends up boiling down to money again?

Yes and no, if you go to their site, click the copyright info, you can post their content for free, but with ads.

I understand intellectual property rights but it's not like we're stealing content and posting as our own. Jesus, if you post something w/o a link the shit hits the fan by the posters.
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Good lord...
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And that boils down to money. Through ads.
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And that boils down to money. Through ads.
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True. Nothing in life is free, except air. But I wonder what they're going to do if you don't post their content directly through their site, with ads? That is quite possibly the line they're trying to draw in the sand.

Albeit a very very stupid thin line.
It really is!

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Is there a law in the US where if you change ANY product 20% it bypasses the copyright/patent?????

So why dont people paraphrase??

OK that takes some semblence of intelligence, time and a certain amount of effort, which rules out 95% of GLP posters.

Plus they will actually have to read it.
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And that boils down to money. Through ads.

True. Nothing in life is free, except air. But I wonder what they're going to do if you don't post their content directly through their site, with ads? That is quite possibly the line they're trying to draw in the sand.

Albeit a very very stupid thin line.
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Well at the very least we could give them a little more credit over Reuters after their sheister BS tactics. They at least gave a copywrite warning.
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Is there a law in the US where if you change ANY product 20% it bypasses the copyright/patent?????

So why dont people paraphrase??

OK that takes some semblence of intelligence, time and a certain amount of effort, which rules out 95% of GLP posters.

Plus they will actually have to read it.
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TRUE DAT!
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Re: Just found this on the AP Site...Trin, Delete this Thread if it'll get you in trouble.
Is there a law in the US where if you change ANY product 20% it bypasses the copyright/patent?????

So why dont people paraphrase??

OK that takes some semblence of intelligence, time and a certain amount of effort, which rules out 95% of GLP posters.

Plus they will actually have to read it.
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Hey, that hurts.
It really is!

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So...how do we get around this? Maybe we could just say...so and so told me that he heard this at blank website...then everyone knows where to go. No Ads!?
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So...how do we get around this? Maybe we could just say...so and so told me that he heard this at blank website...then everyone knows where to go. No Ads!?
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Well, paraphrasing the article just enough may not work. I think Trin's got it right with the 50% rule and as long as you post the original article link, it shows good faith pushing traffic back to the originator.

Just my opinion though, I'm really a doctor by trade. LOL
It really is!

I never drink water, fish fuck in it.
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So...how do we get around this? Maybe we could just say...so and so told me that he heard this at blank website...then everyone knows where to go. No Ads!?

Well, paraphrasing the article just enough may not work. I think Trin's got it right with the 50% rule and as long as you post the original article link, it shows good faith pushing traffic back to the originator.

Just my opinion though, I'm really a doctor by trade. LOL
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What i meant was everyone could go to the indicated website and then go back to the original poster's post to discuss etc...
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So...how do we get around this? Maybe we could just say...so and so told me that he heard this at blank website...then everyone knows where to go. No Ads!?

Well, paraphrasing the article just enough may not work. I think Trin's got it right with the 50% rule and as long as you post the original article link, it shows good faith pushing traffic back to the originator.

Just my opinion though, I'm really a doctor by trade. LOL



What i meant was everyone could go to the indicated website and then go back to the original poster's post to discuss etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1049593

What they're wanting to do is take whatever article wanting to post, must be posted through their copyright site, embedding it with their ads.

I'll leave this up to Trin and just do what he's suggesting us to do.

They're getting pissed though as if they would just report news without their own spin, they'd actually get more viewership. It's a really weird dichotomy.
It really is!

I never drink water, fish fuck in it.
W.C. Fields

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Emiliano Zapata





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