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bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1280132 Grenada 02/28/2011 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Return of Quetzalcoatl July 11, 1991 - As the countdown to the total solar ecilpse began, people turned their camcorders toward the heavens. Something in the sky that day caught the attention of numerous amateur camcorder operators. A bright silvery object, silently hovering near the pyramids of Teotihuacan and the Temple of Quetzalcoatl, was filmed by at least 17 different people in different parts of Mexico City. Sent to computer labs designed to analyze video film, there was no doubt - the silver chariot of the gods was filmed and caught on videotape. Since, hundreds of documented sightings have been caught on film. Quetzalcoatl had promised to return during the solar ecilpse ushering in the Tiger Sun of Quetzalcoatl... He did! The repercussions of this echoed to the farthest reaches of the earth. The reign of the false Quetzalcoatl, the Babylonain Vatican, the instrument of spiritual suppression and human suffering, is on borrowed time. Humanity is now to be given a choice and an exercise in free will - Stay with the false status quo and be destroyed in the apocalypse of Armageddon, or to come together as a unified civilization, with respect for each other and for the biosphere, and to interact with our galactic community. Video of the return of Quetzalcoatl: [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] The UFO Vigilantes: [link to www.youtube.com] Soon after, a gift of the Dreamspell would be given to humanity. After the Harmonic Convergence success, the gift of the Dreamspell was given by the Galactic Master Pacal Votan to his messenger Jose Arguelles. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/02/2011 01:20 PM |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1280132 Grenada 02/28/2011 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dreamspell The Dreamspell is a gift given from Pacal Votan to free humanity from the false 12:60 third dimensional Timing frequency. It is a return to the sacred 260 day Tzolkin and the 13:20 Timing frequency, imbued with the knowledge of Thoth/Quetzalcoatl and the Galactic Mayan Masters. In 1993 CE, we entered the last 19+ year katun, of the last 144,000 day baktun (approximately 394 solar years), of the last 5125 Great Cycle of the larger 25,625 year cycle, which all end on December 21st, 2012 (October 28th, 2011 due to recent research). Since the Time Shift in 1992, the Earth and her inhabitants have begun to evolve toward the full fourth dimensional experience by 2012. The Earth will evolve into her fourth dimensional Light body, with or without the human species. It is now time to make the choice... Armageddon or the Dreamspell? Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/01/2011 12:31 PM |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1280132 Grenada 02/28/2011 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to recent research, the actual "end" date is October 28th 2011. December 21st 2012 was a misconception. [link to www.calleman.com] The Mayan prophecies that were found in the recovered Codices were NEVER about the destruction of the Earth, nor the end of the world; but the collapse of an old system (dark age), to usher in a new one (golden age). These certain Mayan calendars are NOT cyclical and do NOT track planets or alignments. These certain Mayan calendars are Fractal and are based on Fractal Time which track the Evolution of Consciousness. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/02/2011 01:20 PM |
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User ID: 1271686 United States 02/28/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to recent research, the actual "end" date is October 28th 2011. December 21st 2012 was a misconception. Quoting: bornofmayaThe Mayan prophecies that were found in the recovered Codices were never about the destruction of the Earth, nor the end of the world; but the collapse of an old system (dark age), to usher in a new one (golden age). October 28th <-agreed! |
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bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1280132 Grenada 02/28/2011 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fascinating. Something about this thread resonates of truth. Please continue, OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280175More about Quetzalcoatl: Thoth\Quetzalcoatl could be found helping mankind evolve by teaching the earth-based sciences, pyramid building, astronomy, calendar sciences, the arts, and herbal remedies and healing, to different tribes around the world. He could first be found at Stonehenge, then in the Andes, India, Teotihuacan, Palenque, Tikal, Cahokia, and at Chaco Canyon. Wherever the winged serpent god went, great civilizations sprung forth. True teachings were taught - humankind evolved. When Quetzalcoatl was driven out of the land of Mexico by the war god Huitzilopochtli, who later demanded war and human sacrifice, Quetzalcoatl promised to return. If Quetzalcoatl returned on the day of 1 Reed, of the Year 1 Reed, it would signal the fact that mankind had evolved and a new era of peace upon earth was at hand. If the false Quetzalcoatl returned, it would signal that the war gods had prevailed and a period of nine 52 year "hell cycles" would begin. The false Quetzalcoatl of the Babylonian Vatican stepped upon Mexican soil on 1 Reed of the year 1 Reed in the form of Hernando Cortes. It was predestined that Quetzalcoatl couldn't return until the time of the sixth sun - This was the Tiger Sun, the Sun of Quetzalcoatl, the total eclipse of July 11th, 1991. This last katun would be a time of great change, both in human consciousness and in physical Earth Changes. It is a time when our Earth Mother returns to her garden state and humanity becomes a member of the Galactic community - if we don't bring Armageddon upon ourselves beforehand. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/01/2011 06:35 AM |
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BigBuddhaCheese
User ID: 1122286 Netherlands 03/01/2011 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well OP, the sooner the better. If you have more info to share with us, please do. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" |
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(OP) User ID: 1282213 Grenada 03/02/2011 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Para los que hablan español: Profecías Mayas 1: El libro sagrado Maya del Chilam Balam, dice: ...“En el trece (13) Ahau al final del último katum, el itzá será arrollado y rodará Tanka, habrá un tiempo en el estarán sumidos en la oscuridad y luego vendrán trayendo la señal futura los hombres del sol; Despertará la tierra por el norte y por el poniente, el itzá despertará”. 12/21/12 = 4 Ahau 10/28/11 = 13 Ahau Para ese día la humanidad deberá escoger entre desaparecer como especie pensante que amenaza con destruir el planeta o evolucionar hacia la integración armónica con todo el universo, comprendiendo que todo está vivo y consciente, que somos parte de ese todo y que podemos existir en una nueva era de luz. 2: La segunda profecía anunció que siete años después del comienzo del último Katum, es decir en 1999, comenzaría una época de oscuridad que nos enfrentaría a todos con nuestra propia conducta. Dijeron que las palabras de sus sacerdotes serían escuchadas por todos nosotros como una guía para despertar, ellos llaman a esta época como el tiempo que la humanidad entrara al gran salón de los espejos, una época de cambios para enfrentar al hombre consigo mismo, para hacer que entre al gran salón de los espejos y se mire, que mire y analice su comportamiento con él mismo, con los demás, con la naturaleza y con el planeta en donde vive. Una época para que toda la humanidad por decisión consciente de cada uno de nosotros decida cambiar, eliminar el miedo y la falta de respeto de todas nuestras relaciones. Las Siete Profecías Mayas: [link to www.elarcangel.com] Descubre tu Kin Maya segun el Sincronario Maya (13 Lunas, Dreamspell): [link to www.elarcangel.com] Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/03/2011 07:09 AM |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seven Mayan Prophesies The First Prophecy Tells us about the "time without time" in it it's said that starting in 1999, the human being has to choose to make a change of attitude and conscience; to open its mind to integrate everything that exists. This will be a period of 20 years (a cycle that according to the Mayans started in 1991/1992 and will end in 2011/2012, a key date for the indefinite transformation), in which humanity will enter a process of great learning and change. They also pronounced that seven years later will start a period of darkness in which will face every individual will be faced with his own behavior. Humanity will enter the great room of mirrors; materialism will be left behind and will give way to liberation from suffering. The Second Prophecy States that the answer to everything is within every individual, that its behavior determines its future. It confirms that beginning with the solar eclipse of the Aug. 11, 1999, the behavior of all humanity will change rapidly. They assure that starting after this eclipse, men would easily lose control of their emotions or will acknowledge their inner peace. It also indicates that the energy that is received from the center of the galaxy is causing an increase in the vibration of the planet and brain waves, altering their behavior, their way of thinking and feeling. This prophecy mentions two paths: one of comprehension and tolerance and another of fear and destruction. The path to follow will be chosen individually. The Third Prophecy States that there will be a change in temperature, producing climactic, geological, and social changes in a magnitude without patterns and at an astonishing speed. One of them will be generated by man in its lack of conscience to care for and protect natural resources of the planet and the other generated by the sun, which will increase its activity due to the increase of vibrations. The Fourth Prophecy Points out that the anti-ecological conduct of man and the greater activity by the sun will cause a melting of ice in the poles. It will allow the Earth to clean itself and green itself again, producing changes in the physical composition of the continents of the planet. The Mayans left registers in the Desdre codices that every 117 spins of Venus the sun suffers new alterations, and huge spots or solar wind eruptions appear. The Fifth Prophecy Says that all systems based on fear, on which this civilization is based, will suffer simultaneously with the planet and man will make a transformation to give way to a new harmonic reality. The systems will fail and man will face himself and in this a need to reorganize society and continue down the path of evolution that will bring him to understand creation. Only one common spiritual road for all humanity that will end all limits established among the many ways to look at God will emerge. The Sixth Prophecy Points out that in the next years a comet will appear whose trajectory will endanger the existence of man. This culture considered comets as agents of change that came to put into movement the existing equilibrium, allowing the evolution of the collective conscience. For the Mayans God is the presence of life, has all shapes and has infinite presence. The Seventh Prophecy In this prophecy it's said that from the year 1999 and until 2011/2012, the light emitted from the center of the galaxy synchronizes all living beings and allows them to voluntarily access an internal transformation that produces new realities. The Mayans mention that every individual has an opportunity to change and break its limitations, with it creating a new way of communicating through thought. It's predicted that limits will disappear, a new era of transparency and light will begin, the lie will end forever. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/03/2011 07:27 AM |
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Nacht im Walde
User ID: 1282434 Germany 03/03/2011 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because then there is this other part which would fit in nicely: The only archeological evidence found so far that has any reference to what will actually happen in 2011/2012 is Monument 6 from Tortuguero. The current reading of this ancient inscription by professional Mayanists is that we will then “witness the display of Bolon Yokte Ku in his full costume and regalia.” [link to www.calleman.com] It doesn`t take a lot if interpretation to realize that Bolon Yokte Ku would return as another "UFO" on that date, similar as in 1991 in Mexico. Would this irrefutable evidence of the "ET-presence" start a new age of peace and lead to the final stage of universal consciousness? We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are. - Anais Nin |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bornofmaya do you know if "Quetzalcoatl" is actually the god "Bolon Yokte Ku" or are they related? Quoting: Nacht im Waldebecause then there is this other part which would fit in nicely: The only archeological evidence found so far that has any reference to what will actually happen in 2011/2012 is Monument 6 from Tortuguero. The current reading of this ancient inscription by professional Mayanists is that we will then “witness the display of Bolon Yokte Ku in his full costume and regalia.” [link to www.calleman.com] It doesn`t take a lot if interpretation to realize that Bolon Yokte Ku would return as another "UFO" on that date, similar as in 1991 in Mexico. Would this irrefutable evidence of the "ET-presence" start a new age of peace and lead to the final stage of universal consciousness? I would imagine that Bolon Yokte Ku is either related (by hierarchy or family) to Quetzalcoatl/Kukulcan somehow, or it could be the name for the hierarchy/family of gods. It could also be related to Hunab Ku, where his Light will shine upon us once again to bring about an era of peace. I agree that "ET" contact would tie in perfectly to catalyze the Universal Consciousness timeline, the end of the 9 levels of the Underworld, and guide us into the 13 levels of Heaven. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/03/2011 09:38 AM |
KeepingItReal
User ID: 1038225 Canada 03/03/2011 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Complete and utter bullshit. End date of Mayan Calendar is 4 ahau 3 kankin. This can be seen in the Dresden Codex and on many monuments throughout the Yucatan peninsula. Kankin is a 20 day period on the solar calendar. Kankin means "old" or "yellow sun" in Yucatec Mayan. It occurs April 10 - 29. The day 4 ahau can only happen on day 3 of the solar month of kankin in years named 2 etznab. The last time the year was 2 etznab was July 24th - July 23 1988. There won't be another year named 2 etznab until 2040. The end of the cycle was celebrated on April 12, 1988. There is no doom related to it. It was just a new cycle, like a new year or a new century on our calendar. Calleman and so many others are full of shit. They usurp Mayan knowledge, twist something simple and beautiful for their own purposes, and the 2012ers and chicken littles eat it up with wallets wide open. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Complete and utter bullshit. Quoting: KeepingItRealEnd date of Mayan Calendar is 4 ahau 3 kankin. This can be seen in the Dresden Codex and on many monuments throughout the Yucatan peninsula. Kankin is a 20 day period on the solar calendar. Kankin means "old" or "yellow sun" in Yucatec Mayan. It occurs April 10 - 29. The day 4 ahau can only happen on day 3 of the solar month of kankin in years named 2 etznab. The last time the year was 2 etznab was July 24th - July 23 1988. There won't be another year named 2 etznab until 2040. The end of the cycle was celebrated on April 12, 1988. There is no doom related to it. It was just a new cycle, like a new year or a new century on our calendar. Calleman and so many others are full of shit. They usurp Mayan knowledge, twist something simple and beautiful for their own purposes, and the 2012ers and chicken littles eat it up with wallets wide open. And where is your proof about all of that? You seem (yet again) like a troll on a debunking agenda. Your theory is just another theory in an ocean of theories. This is simply another theory, so let it be. It could wrong, but so could the theory that you claim is true. Just please don't come around like a know-it-all with the absolute truth. |
KeepingItReal
User ID: 1038225 Canada 03/03/2011 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Complete and utter bullshit. Quoting: KeepingItRealEnd date of Mayan Calendar is 4 ahau 3 kankin. This can be seen in the Dresden Codex and on many monuments throughout the Yucatan peninsula. Kankin is a 20 day period on the solar calendar. Kankin means "old" or "yellow sun" in Yucatec Mayan. It occurs April 10 - 29. The day 4 ahau can only happen on day 3 of the solar month of kankin in years named 2 etznab. The last time the year was 2 etznab was July 24th - July 23 1988. There won't be another year named 2 etznab until 2040. The end of the cycle was celebrated on April 12, 1988. There is no doom related to it. It was just a new cycle, like a new year or a new century on our calendar. Calleman and so many others are full of shit. They usurp Mayan knowledge, twist something simple and beautiful for their own purposes, and the 2012ers and chicken littles eat it up with wallets wide open. And where is your proof about all of that? You seem (yet again) like a troll on a debunking agenda. Your theory is just another theory in an ocean of theories. This is simply another theory, so let it be. It could wrong, but so could the theory that you claim is true. Just please don't come around like a know-it-all with the absolute truth. No, mine isn't a theory. Mine is truth. You can work it out for yourself. All of the clues needed to test what I say are contained in my post. I know the celebration happened on April 12 1988 because I was there. My father in law was a respected healer and time keeper in a community I will not name in the Yucatan peninsula. My ex wife is Mayan, she speaks 2 dialects. My children are half Mayan. All speak Yucatecan Maya, Spanish and English. I know the culture because I lived it, I know the monuments, I know the stories, and I have actually held the "prophecies" in my hands. I am half Mexican and half Canadian native. You don't have to believe that, because all I am is an anonymous person on the net. But I am giving you all of the information you need to confirm my information yourself, and I am not selling you anything. On the other hand, your information is pure speculation, and unverifiable. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
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KeepingItReal
User ID: 1038225 Canada 03/03/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another clue to pinpoint the year. Hernan Cortes was successful mainly because the Aztecs (not the Mayans) believed their god Quetzalcoatl would return in a year called Ce Acatl, which corresponds to the Mayan year One Ben. The Aztec solar new year begins on February 18th. The Mayan solar new year occurs on July 24th, coinciding with the second transit of the sun over the local zenith and the beginning of the rainy season. Hernan Cortes arrived in April of the year Ce Acatl for the Aztecs, and at the end of 13 Lamat for the Mayans. The year, 1518. The year 2 etznab is one year later than 1 ben, which means that the year 1519 - 1520 was 2 etznab. The solar year cycle is 52 years long. No day can have the same Tzolkin, Ha'ab (solar calendar month date) and year name more than once every 52 years. Do the math and you will see I am right. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, mine isn't a theory. Mine is truth. You can work it out for yourself. All of the clues needed to test what I say are contained in my post. I know the celebration happened on April 12 1988 because I was there. My father in law was a respected healer and time keeper in a community I will not name in the Yucatan peninsula. My ex wife is Mayan, she speaks 2 dialects. My children are half Mayan. All speak Yucatecan Maya, Spanish and English. I know the culture because I lived it, I know the monuments, I know the stories, and I have actually held the "prophecies" in my hands. I am half Mexican and half Canadian native. You don't have to believe that, because all I am is an anonymous person on the net. But I am giving you all of the information you need to confirm my information yourself, and I am not selling you anything. On the other hand, your information is pure speculation, and unverifiable. Quoting: KeepingItRealIt is YOUR truth, but not the ABSOLUTE truth. If what you claim really did happen, then obviously you would think it is the true reality for having experienced it. But that does not provide any concrete proof that the cycle actually ended on April 12 1988. Unless you can provide actual proof (and not some supposed ceremony) that the cycle ended on that date, it will be just another personal interpretation on your side. I am also half Mexican, but so what. I lived in Quintana Roo for 7 years, but who cares, it doesn't add to my credibility. There are Elders/Timekeepers who say that the calendar ends on 13 Ahau, and you say it ends on 4 Ahau. Who is right? We cannot be sure, but you cannot claim to know the absolute truth because of your supposed story. Your information is also pure speculation and unverifiable. |
KeepingItReal
User ID: 1038225 Canada 03/03/2011 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quetzalcoatl/Kukulkan is not a Mayan god. He was imported to the region by Toltec invaders around 1100 ad. He was not embraced by everyone. Many Mayans pretended to worship him and continued to observe their own religion privately. Calleman mixes references from Mayan cultures in the Yucatan and Guatemala and others from Central Mexico and serves up a soup of incoherent blathering that does none of those cultures justice. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another clue to pinpoint the year. Hernan Cortes was successful mainly because the Aztecs (not the Mayans) believed their god Quetzalcoatl would return in a year called Ce Acatl, which corresponds to the Mayan year One Ben. The Aztec solar new year begins on February 18th. The Mayan solar new year occurs on July 24th, coinciding with the second transit of the sun over the local zenith and the beginning of the rainy season. Hernan Cortes arrived in April of the year Ce Acatl for the Aztecs, and at the end of 13 Lamat for the Mayans. The year, 1518. Quoting: KeepingItRealThe year 2 etznab is one year later than 1 ben, which means that the year 1519 - 1520 was 2 etznab. The solar year cycle is 52 years long. No day can have the same Tzolkin, Ha'ab (solar calendar month date) and year name more than once every 52 years. Do the math and you will see I am right. How can you be so sure the dates are right in the first place? You can't. EDIT: Unless you can time travel maybe. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/03/2011 10:41 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1279115 United States 03/03/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: KeepingItReal No, mine isn't a theory. Mine is truth. You can work it out for yourself. All of the clues needed to test what I say are contained in my post. I know the celebration happened on April 12 1988 because I was there. My father in law was a respected healer and time keeper in a community I will not name in the Yucatan peninsula. My ex wife is Mayan, she speaks 2 dialects. My children are half Mayan. All speak Yucatecan Maya, Spanish and English. I know the culture because I lived it, I know the monuments, I know the stories, and I have actually held the "prophecies" in my hands. I am half Mexican and half Canadian native. You don't have to believe that, because all I am is an anonymous person on the net. But I am giving you all of the information you need to confirm my information yourself, and I am not selling you anything. On the other hand, your information is pure speculation, and unverifiable. That's interesting also. So your sayin you believe nothing's going to go down? Cause I'm still thinking that way, sometimes not sure though. Know what I mean? |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quetzalcoatl/Kukulkan is not a Mayan god. He was imported to the region by Toltec invaders around 1100 ad. He was not embraced by everyone. Many Mayans pretended to worship him and continued to observe their own religion privately. Calleman mixes references from Mayan cultures in the Yucatan and Guatemala and others from Central Mexico and serves up a soup of incoherent blathering that does none of those cultures justice. Quoting: KeepingItRealThere are different times of the Mayans you do know that? You always refer to the Post Classical Mayans. |
KeepingItReal
User ID: 1038225 Canada 03/03/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, mine isn't a theory. Mine is truth. You can work it out for yourself. All of the clues needed to test what I say are contained in my post. I know the celebration happened on April 12 1988 because I was there. My father in law was a respected healer and time keeper in a community I will not name in the Yucatan peninsula. My ex wife is Mayan, she speaks 2 dialects. My children are half Mayan. All speak Yucatecan Maya, Spanish and English. I know the culture because I lived it, I know the monuments, I know the stories, and I have actually held the "prophecies" in my hands. I am half Mexican and half Canadian native. You don't have to believe that, because all I am is an anonymous person on the net. But I am giving you all of the information you need to confirm my information yourself, and I am not selling you anything. On the other hand, your information is pure speculation, and unverifiable. Quoting: KeepingItRealIt is YOUR truth, but not the ABSOLUTE truth. If what you claim really did happen, then obviously you would think it is the true reality for having experienced it. But that does not provide any concrete proof that the cycle actually ended on April 12 1988. Unless you can provide actual proof (and not some supposed ceremony) that the cycle ended on that date, it will be just another personal interpretation on your side. I am also half Mexican, but so what. I lived in Quintana Roo for 7 years, but who cares, it doesn't add to my credibility. There are Elders/Timekeepers who say that the calendar ends on 13 Ahau, and you say it ends on 4 Ahau. Who is right? We cannot be sure, but you cannot claim to know the absolute truth because of your supposed story. Your information is also pure speculation and unverifiable. In the inscriptions, the last cycle of 5200 vague years (tun) begins on 4 ahau 8 cumkhu. Count the days yourself and you will see that it leads you to 4 ahau 3 kankin. It is also clearly written in the tables of the Dresden Codex, by the Mayan scribes. Anyone who thinks it ends on a day called 13 Ahau doesn't understand how Katuns work and obviously can't read the glyphs. I don't expect anyone to believe me on the merits of my past which I could be making up (I'm not, but it is healthy to disbelieve). I am giving you all the elements you need to test what I say for yourself. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the inscriptions, the last cycle of 5200 vague years (tun) begins on 4 ahau 8 cumkhu. Count the days yourself and you will see that it leads you to 4 ahau 3 kankin. It is also clearly written in the tables of the Dresden Codex, by the Mayan scribes. Anyone who thinks it ends on a day called 13 Ahau doesn't understand how Katuns work and obviously can't read the glyphs. I don't expect anyone to believe me on the merits of my past which I could be making up (I'm not, but it is healthy to disbelieve). I am giving you all the elements you need to test what I say for yourself. Quoting: KeepingItRealYou are supposing it begins on 4 Ahau 8 Cumkhu. Maybe the calendar was created at that time, but maybe the actual cycle started before. If you don't question what you believe to know, you will never progress. Last Edited by bornofmaya on 03/03/2011 10:45 AM |
KeepingItReal
User ID: 1038225 Canada 03/03/2011 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quetzalcoatl/Kukulkan is not a Mayan god. He was imported to the region by Toltec invaders around 1100 ad. He was not embraced by everyone. Many Mayans pretended to worship him and continued to observe their own religion privately. Calleman mixes references from Mayan cultures in the Yucatan and Guatemala and others from Central Mexico and serves up a soup of incoherent blathering that does none of those cultures justice. Quoting: KeepingItRealThere are different times of the Mayans you do know that? You always refer to the Post Classical Mayans. ROFLMAO. Always? No. I am only referring to the arrival of Kukulkan to the Yucatan. He didn't exist in earlier periods. He was imported, just like Jesus Christ. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
bornofmaya
(OP) User ID: 1283192 Grenada 03/03/2011 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ROFLMAO. Always? No. I am only referring to the arrival of Kukulkan to the Yucatan. He didn't exist in earlier periods. He was imported, just like Jesus Christ. Quoting: KeepingItRealHow do you know he didn't exist in earlier periods? Did you live during those times? |