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"Rural Idiocy"

 
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"Rural idiocy is a phrase coined by Karl Marx to describe the attitude of 19th century peasants that included hidebound conservatism, parochialism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, ignorance, distrust, economic risk aversion and the inability to cooperate with others in collective endeavors. He was convinced that such attitudes prevented peasants from acting as a revolutionary class.

The modern usage describes a related phenomenon. Contemporary rural idiocy appears in small towns whose residents' encounters with the outside world are largely mediated by television or radio..."
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Actually, the most intelligent person I've ever met was a rural farmer whose father was one of the inspirations for Uncle Jesse on the Dukes of Hazzard.
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Hey Marx, at least the peasant ideologies didn't lead to the deaths of 100s of millions of people.
Peasants: 1
Karl marxs: -100,000,000 (or more)
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Modern version of this would be "Urban Idiocy", and I believe it afflicts many.
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oh man what if yeah what do you do when you are old.

ehm im not sure but it would be better then this or im crazy.
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"Rural idiocy is a phrase coined by Karl Marx to describe the attitude of 19th century peasants that included hidebound conservatism, parochialism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, ignorance, distrust, economic risk aversion and the inability to cooperate with others in collective endeavors. He was convinced that such attitudes prevented peasants from acting as a revolutionary class.

The modern usage describes a related phenomenon. Contemporary rural idiocy appears in small towns whose residents' encounters with the outside world are largely mediated by television or radio..."
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SOunds like where I live. everyones talking bout stuff they aint got a clue about.....and you better damn well not disagree with them
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gee,what phrase would marX "coin" for the inhabitants and denizens of dEtroit ? new_O-leans ? chicago ? nyc ?lA ? etc etc ???????

you think they have something over country folK ?
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04/14/2011 10:40 PM
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After having lived in a rural area and the city, I find things like ethnocentrism, distrust and lack of cooperation to be more skewed toward the city. There was much more anonymity, callousness toward others and clannishness. Also, contrary to media caricatures, I didn't encounter anti-Semitic slurs until I moved to the city.
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I was raised in a rural area...two hours to an airport or a mall. People were educated enough, very caring of each other, and tended to be honest. If there was a bad apple in town, everyone knew who it was and watched him like a hawk. But, what I found was that in a rural area, youth are raised without specific role models of success that the suburban kids take for granted. There aren't any company CEOs, engineers, surgeons (although there are family doctors who might take out tonsils and the like), pilots, government agency managers, etc. So these rural areas tend to be great places to raise kids, but you eventually have to get them out of there to see the world. People who live in such a safe bubble their entire lives are hesitant to venture out to travel and often are uncomfortable when they do have to leave their little corner of the world.
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both city and small towns have problems.

Being fucking stupid, ignorant, backward, closed off, and suffering greatly from the "big fish in a little pond syndrome" is what small towns endure......although they are too fucking stupid to know it.
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It's funny that you guys are comparing this quote to actual rural people living in modern times. Forget the Rural part of the word, it is moot in this day and age. Yes there are people who live rurally but technology brings them into our world. Focus more on the word idiocy and attach the symptoms he associates with it to the majority of the population.
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Hey Marx, at least the peasant ideologies didn't lead to the deaths of 100s of millions of people.
Peasants: 1
Karl marxs: -100,000,000 (or more)
 Quoting: 1FutureMarine1


Yay for the peasants who will eat while thos capitalist pigs rot ... okay maybe not with that much gusto.. but hey .. yay for the pesants who feed us when the agri business runs out of fuel to farm on their grand scales and rape the earth into a state of destitution.
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Hey Marx, at least the peasant ideologies didn't lead to the deaths of 100s of millions of people.
Peasants: 1
Karl marxs: -100,000,000 (or more)
 Quoting: 1FutureMarine1


^ This ^

The only thing that needs to be discussed about the proponents of Marxism are what the early warning signs are, and what weapons to use to dispatch them before the symptoms progress.
Don't run. You'll just die tired.
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I was raised in a rural area...two hours to an airport or a mall. People were educated enough, very caring of each other, and tended to be honest. If there was a bad apple in town, everyone knew who it was and watched him like a hawk. But, what I found was that in a rural area, youth are raised without specific role models of success that the suburban kids take for granted. There aren't any company CEOs, engineers, surgeons (although there are family doctors who might take out tonsils and the like), pilots, government agency managers, etc. So these rural areas tend to be great places to raise kids, but you eventually have to get them out of there to see the world. People who live in such a safe bubble their entire lives are hesitant to venture out to travel and often are uncomfortable when they do have to leave their little corner of the world.
 Quoting: Faith


"I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Agriculture is our wisest pursuit, because it will in the end contribute most to real wealth, good morals, and happiness."
- Letter from Thomas Jefferson to George Washington (1787)

"There seem to be but three ways for a nation to acquire wealth. The first is by war, as the Romans did, in plundering their conquered neighbors. This is robbery. The second by commerce, which is generally cheating. The third by agriculture, the only honest way, wherein man receives a real increase of the seed thrown into the ground, in a kind of continual miracle, wrought by the hand of God in his favor, as a reward for his innocent life and his virtuous industry."
- Franklin, Benjamin
Don't run. You'll just die tired.
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I was raised in a rural area...two hours to an airport or a mall. People were educated enough, very caring of each other, and tended to be honest. If there was a bad apple in town, everyone knew who it was and watched him like a hawk. But, what I found was that in a rural area, youth are raised without specific role models of success that the suburban kids take for granted. There aren't any company CEOs, engineers, surgeons (although there are family doctors who might take out tonsils and the like), pilots, government agency managers, etc. So these rural areas tend to be great places to raise kids, but you eventually have to get them out of there to see the world. People who live in such a safe bubble their entire lives are hesitant to venture out to travel and often are uncomfortable when they do have to leave their little corner of the world.
 Quoting: Faith


"I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Agriculture is our wisest pursuit, because it will in the end contribute most to real wealth, good morals, and happiness."
- Letter from Thomas Jefferson to George Washington (1787)

"There seem to be but three ways for a nation to acquire wealth. The first is by war, as the Romans did, in plundering their conquered neighbors. This is robbery. The second by commerce, which is generally cheating. The third by agriculture, the only honest way, wherein man receives a real increase of the seed thrown into the ground, in a kind of continual miracle, wrought by the hand of God in his favor, as a reward for his innocent life and his virtuous industry."
- Franklin, Benjamin
 Quoting: Comedian



beautiful, imagine what he might think of nuclear spinach.
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How is commerce cheating? If I build a cabinet from scratch and sell it to someone for a fair price we have both profited.
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How is commerce cheating? If I build a cabinet from scratch and sell it to someone for a fair price we have both profited.
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I believe he is referring to what we call today as "corporatism."
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"I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Agriculture is our wisest pursuit, because it will in the end contribute most to real wealth, good morals, and happiness."
- Letter from Thomas Jefferson to George Washington (1787)

"There seem to be but three ways for a nation to acquire wealth. The first is by war, as the Romans did, in plundering their conquered neighbors. This is robbery. The second by commerce, which is generally cheating. The third by agriculture, the only honest way, wherein man receives a real increase of the seed thrown into the ground, in a kind of continual miracle, wrought by the hand of God in his favor, as a reward for his innocent life and his virtuous industry."
- Franklin, Benjamin

 Quoting: Comedian


Nice quotes, I like that Benjamin Franklin one.
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How is commerce cheating? If I build a cabinet from scratch and sell it to someone for a fair price we have both profited.
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I believe he is referring to what we call today as "corporatism."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969156


Correct, or at the time a synonym was "merchantilism", which was basically how to go right up to the edge of fraud without being tarred and feathered.
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I don't believe Marx was saying that about every rural person everywhere for all time, that is of course taken out of context where he says that the powers that be use religion, propaganda and economics to keep the rural folks in their state of xenophobia and ignorance.
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Tried to find a witty Pol Pot quote to counter yours since were using histories monsters to prove points..

..Couldn't find a relevant one about executing the urbanites and expelling them to the countryside.
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Hey Marx, at least the peasant ideologies didn't lead to the deaths of 100s of millions of people.
Peasants: 1
Karl marxs: -100,000,000 (or more)
 Quoting: 1FutureMarine1


^ This ^

The only thing that needs to be discussed about the proponents of Marxism are what the early warning signs are, and what weapons to use to dispatch them before the symptoms progress.
 Quoting: Comedian


that is why i landed on my hip when i was drunk once ? jeez what a weak pain in the ass.
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The only idiots I have met in the rural area where I live are the liberals who have moved here because of white flight from the city.

Damn libtards have managed to build McMansions next to 70 year old cabins and take over local politics. They have raised taxes by over 1,000% or more. Sudenly townships that did nothing but fix the roads and plow snow have property inspectors.

The idiots are in urban areas and when they move to the country they bring the destruction with them.
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are they going to build mechs again with there carefully picked genes ?

that takes allot of ore.
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Modern version of this would be "Urban Idiocy", and I believe it afflicts many.
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NOW that is a definition I can live with.

Yea we live in the country, yea we have (shhhh) guns. Yea we are a peticular kind of people that are hard to gather trust from.

There is a logical reasoning to our way of life though. We despise authority and cherish our freedoms. OUR FREEDOMS are our ally, and we value the freedom to hunt, to fish, to protect our families. We do NOT need that big semi to deliver our food or to bring us the things we need to survive. We can survive without intervention from the rest of the world and to be honest I prefer NOT to interact with those who do NOT share the same idealologies as we have. We will listen and nod our heads but that doesn't mean we agree with you in the city.

OUR freedoms to eat organically grown food from our own gardens. OUR FREEDOM is what made this country, the rest of you are just along for the ride
Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy]



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The only idiots I have met in the rural area where I live are the liberals who have moved here because of white flight from the city.

Damn libtards have managed to build McMansions next to 70 year old cabins and take over local politics. They have raised taxes by over 1,000% or more. Sudenly townships that did nothing but fix the roads and plow snow have property inspectors.

The idiots are in urban areas and when they move to the country they bring the destruction with them.
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clappa
Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy]



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"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama
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"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama
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Rural idiocy is a phrase coined by Karl Marx to describe the attitude of 19th century peasants that included hidebound conservatism, parochialism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, ignorance, distrust, economic risk aversion and the inability to cooperate with others in collective endeavors. He was convinced that such attitudes prevented peasants from acting as a revolutionary class.

Pretty apparent on whom our "president" admires and emulates.
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I was raised in a rural area...two hours to an airport or a mall. People were educated enough, very caring of each other, and tended to be honest. If there was a bad apple in town, everyone knew who it was and watched him like a hawk. But, what I found was that in a rural area, youth are raised without specific role models of success that the suburban kids take for granted. There aren't any company CEOs, engineers, surgeons (although there are family doctors who might take out tonsils and the like), pilots, government agency managers, etc. So these rural areas tend to be great places to raise kids, but you eventually have to get them out of there to see the world. People who live in such a safe bubble their entire lives are hesitant to venture out to travel and often are uncomfortable when they do have to leave their little corner of the world.
 Quoting: Faith


A safe bubble and a great place to raise kids is something that people need to get out of so that they might encounter bad apples without knowing if they are bad apples and so they can meet "government agency managers"?

Are you okay?

I will take vary caring and honest over smooth cosmopolitans who spend every waking second staring at some hand held electronic device.

City people are some of the most narrow minded and parochial people I have ever encountered. They tend to be perpetually bored, always seeking something new, rarely involved in stable relationships, self centered, obsessed with wealth or the trappings of wealth, social climbers, and false to the point of psychopathology. And that's the stable ones.





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