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A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!

 
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A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
God is a creative force, And so are we. He told Adam, 'Increase and
multiply.' That's what the first organic cells did, Not merely changed shape but replicated themselves. God is a creative force. He made the whole universe out of Himself through cell division. That's why the devils are so full
of envy-the bad angels, I mean. They are not creative creatures; they have no bodies, no cells, they're spirit. And I suspect it wasn't envy so much as a form of suspicion that God was making a mistake in making another engine of creativity in Adam, so like Himself. I mean the angels probably felt the physical universe was bad enough, with all the replicating cells, but thinking, talking beings who could increase and multiply? They were probably outraged by the whole experiment. That was their sin.
The entire flaw in the Bible is the notion that God is perfect. It represents a failure of imagination on the part of the early scholars. It's responsible for every impossible theological question as to good and evil with which we've been wrestling through the centuries. God is good, however, wondrously good. Yes, God is love. But no creative force is perfect. That's clear.
So this makes a perfectly evil Devil make even less sense than a perfect God. Imagine, the Devil never learning anything during all this time, never changing his mind about being the Devil. It's an insult to our intellect, such an idea. Also, He's not purely unredeemable. He's merely part of God's plan. He's a spirit allowed to tempt and try humans. He disapproves of humans, of the entire experiment. See, that was the nature of the Devil's Fall, as I see it. The Devil didn't think the idea would work. But the key is understanding that God is matter! God is physical, God is the Lord of Cell Division, and the Devil abhors the excess of letting all this cell division run wild.

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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
Well, not exactly: But kudos for thinking outside the box! thumbs
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
Just a random thought lol
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
comments would be greatly appreciated would like to know others thoughts on this
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comments would be greatly appreciated would like to know others thoughts on this
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Evil isn't confined to just "spirit".....it also expresses in physical format as well!

But basically, evil is just that which hasn't learned yet, is all(still young/immature).....
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comments would be greatly appreciated would like to know others thoughts on this
 Quoting: Joshman420

Evil isn't confined to just "spirit".....it also expresses in physical format as well!

But basically, evil is just that which hasn't learned yet, is all(still young/immature).....
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


good point
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another thing that points to it all being just one big experiment is the tale of job in the bible Satan is there in heaven, with God. God says, where have you been? And
Satan says, roaming around the earth! It's a regular conversation. And they begin arguing about Job. Satan believes Job's goodness is founded entirely upon his good fortune. And God agrees to let Satan torment Job. This is the most nearly true picture of the situation which we possess. God doesn't know everything. The Devil is a good friend of his. And the whole thing is an experiment. And this Satan is a far cry from
being the Devil as we know him now, worldwide.
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
another thing that points to it all being just one big experiment is the tale of job in the bible Satan is there in heaven, with God. God says, where have you been? And
Satan says, roaming around the earth! It's a regular conversation. And they begin arguing about Job. Satan believes Job's goodness is founded entirely upon his good fortune. And God agrees to let Satan torment Job. This is the most nearly true picture of the situation which we possess. God doesn't know everything. The Devil is a good friend of his. And the whole thing is an experiment. And this Satan is a far cry from
being the Devil as we know him now, worldwide.
 Quoting: Joshman420

The problem is: Most of what you base your observations on, are from biblical references..........and unfortunately, THAT book has been SO tampered with, that it's really hard to get at the Truth, from there! :(

But, at least we can conjecture from it........:)

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OP don't listen to that weird "Obey" person. Thanks for sharing your thoughts they are quite intelligent and thought provoking!!
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Nice thread. Good ideas, the Truth is whatever your heart may tell you!! For none of us truly know until the end. I like your though provoking insight.

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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
OP don't listen to that weird "Obey" person. Thanks for sharing your thoughts they are quite intelligent and thought provoking!!
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LOL.......yeah, don't listen to me! You might want more......lol ;)
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
Nice thread. Good ideas, the Truth is whatever your heart may tell you!! For none of us truly know until the end. I like your though provoking insight.

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Thanks it was just something I thought about while driving cause I have not much else to do
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
no creative force is perfect. That's clear.
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Your notion of God is funny there.
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
no creative force is perfect. That's clear.
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Your notion of God is funny there.
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Isn't it true?
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Re: A thought of god and the devil....................PLZ READ!
First we must remove the preconceived notion of God and Satan.


Realize then that Satan is merely a facet of man's duality.

We are all god's. As we are nothing more than the divided essence of a divine singularity. Our concept of Satan is derived from our unique human capacity for polarity; coupled with our primal instinct for a perspective that is less altruistic.
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