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YaKnow
(OP) User ID: 1557122 United States 09/20/2011 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two satellites crashed in 2009 leaving a dangerous cloud of debris. [link to www.space.com] [link to www.space.com] cut, Texas?s KBTX News 10 station ... Last week, the defunct Russian military satellite Cosmos 2251 slammed into the active U.S. communications satellite Iridium 33 as they flew about 490 miles (790 km) above Siberia. The collision destroyed both satellites, creating two large clouds of debris made up of hundreds of individual pieces, some of which may remain in orbit for up to 10,000 years, Russian mission experts have said..... ?The Federal Aviation Administration has reported to local law enforcement that these events are being caused by falling satellite debris,? the announcement stated. ?These pieces of debris have been causing sonic booms ? resulting in the vibrations being felt by some residents ? as well as flashes of light across the sky.? end cut.... Last Edited by YaKnow on 09/20/2011 07:21 PM |
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User ID: 1467739 United States 09/20/2011 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice, thnks Op Thread: An Ode To The Brain (and other things) ************************ "I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book."- Groucho Marx "Every artist dips his brush in his own soul, and paints his own nature into his pictures." ~Henry Ward Beecher "I try to be the person my dog thinks I am" ~Anonymous |
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User ID: 1558435 United States 09/20/2011 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Track it here: [link to www.n2yo.com] ..."There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."... "If your presence doesn't make an impact, then your absence won't make any difference!" |
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User ID: 1558435 United States 09/20/2011 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two satellites crashed in 2009 leaving a dangerous cloud of debris. Quoting: YaKnow [link to www.space.com] cut, Late Friday, similar sky sightings were also received by National Weather Service (NWS) centers in parts of Kentucky. Like Sunday?s reports, the descriptions of explosions in the sky and earthquake-like rumbles were attributed to the likely re-entry of debris from the satellite collision, NWS officials in Jackson, Kentucky said in a statement. ?The Federal Aviation Administration has reported to local law enforcement that these events are being caused by falling satellite debris,? the announcement stated. ?These pieces of debris have been causing sonic booms ? resulting in the vibrations being felt by some residents ? as well as flashes of light across the sky.? end cut.... That doesn't sound logical to me. Seems they're "reaching" to explain the rumbles and sounds. ..."There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."... "If your presence doesn't make an impact, then your absence won't make any difference!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1558138 United States 09/20/2011 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Highly dboughtfull as you no or should no most of our satalights are remote controlled and are able to menuver themselves away from debris, and we have had dozens of satellights crash to the earth in the passed and no one has ever died, you people are just fear mongers. trying t play on peoples imagination and you take away what little credibility already exist for sights like this. if you want me to beleive what you are saying show me real proof not just hear say. And for those who say that i dont know what im talking about because my grammar is not prefect look at the past Einstein had horrible grammer but did that make him wrong. |
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User ID: 1528757 United States 09/20/2011 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Naturally I drew register a little exaggerated, in order to create something new in the sense of a sublime literature that sings of despair only in order to oppress the reader, and make him desire the good as the remedy." "When I write down my thoughts, they do not escape me. This action makes me remember my strength which I forget at all times. I educate myself proportionately to my captured thought. I aim only to distinguish the contradiction between my mind and nothingness." “Ever wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?” |
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(OP) User ID: 1557122 United States 09/20/2011 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somehow my second link was closed here is a cut for the record, in case they close it all together, Texas?s KBTX News 10 station reported numerous sightings from residents who spotted the fireballs or heard rumbling sounds earlier on Sunday. The Waco Tribune-Herald newspaper cited reports from residents who described hearing an explosion-like sound that rattled windows and shook houses. In both reports, FAA officials attributed the sightings as stemming from re-entering debris from the satellite collision, though none of the debris appeared to fall all the way to the ground. Last week, the defunct Russian military satellite Cosmos 2251 slammed into the active U.S. communications satellite Iridium 33 as they flew about 490 miles (790 km) above Siberia. The collision destroyed both satellites, creating two large clouds of debris made up of hundreds of individual pieces, some of which may remain in orbit for up to 10,000 years, Russian mission experts have said. Officials at the U.S. Strategic Command, which oversees the U.S. Defense Department?s Space Surveillance Network that continuously tracks the more than 18,000 separate pieces of space debris in orbit today, said they did receive a report of the Texas sightings on Sunday. Last Edited by YaKnow on 09/20/2011 08:05 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1557279 United States 09/20/2011 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As in "power grid"? How could failing/falling satellites cause a failure of the power grid? The power grid is made up of poles/lines and transformers located on the ground. GPS and other satellites could be knocked out, but won't bother anyone who doesn't depend on such devises. Doom off. |
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Awakened In Christ
User ID: 1558602 United States 09/20/2011 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This article explains what can happen to our grid when a rogue satellite falls to Earth bumping into other communication devices. Quoting: YaKnow I am buying a pin on this one for preparedness by G.L.P. members. Never worry, just have flashlights and emergency supplies ready. You might want to bring the tomatoe plants in. Please bump this thread until after the fallout from the rouge satellite has has happened. The event described in the article below happened in 2009 when two satellites collided, it is detailed in my second reply. [link to www.unexplainable.net] In 2010 we saw one of the first potential threats of a satellite suddenly going rogue and almost disrupting another one in the form of the Galaxy 15 which suddenly became a satellite "zombie" and started moving to disrupt the communications of another that could have resulted in the latter transmitting corrupted data back to Earth and ended up with the attached networks going down. Luckily the satellite passed harmlessly by, and a study later concluded that the cause was a burst of solar activity. But the Pentagon reports that two satellites colliding in space could spread out and send thousands of tiny pieces of shrapnel throughout orbit drifting gradually to hit other satellites and cause problems that could be felt for years afterward. And in this case, not only cable television stations would be affected. GPS systems, phone lines, certain internet providers, weather prediction models, and perhaps even military satellites would be disrupted by the catastrophe. If this were the case, then the process wouldn't be the end of the world, but it might be the end of communication as we know it. At least for a time. Things that make you go hummmmm Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever, is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, If there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, let your mind dwell on these things. ~Philippians 4:8 ~Romans 8:31-32~ 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 287857 United States 09/20/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Affirmative with that in mind, many nuclear reactors will struggle to keep coolant adequate for the rods wanting to meltdown... Many of the grids are old...many are not as redundant as they should be-and there are those who seek massive damages from such an event-that would make them ecstatic Fill your lamps with 'oil' do not be caught empty. |
theSeachingJones
User ID: 1100447 United States 09/20/2011 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so....... is anyone predicting where the satellite is going to crash? anyone? (I have no idea where its going to crash)(~) We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people. I forgive myself, I Love myself, I'm sorry, Please forgive me, I forgive you, I love you, Thank you. God Bless You; I Bless You; Bless Yourself(~). Love is the answer ~ Peace be with You. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1558271 United States 09/20/2011 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so....... Quoting: theSeachingJones is anyone predicting where the satellite is going to crash? anyone? (I have no idea where its going to crash)(~) From the other thread,this from space.com The U.S. Strategic Command at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., and NASA are keeping a close eye on the falling UARS spacecraft, but have said that they will only be able to pinpoint the satellite's point of impact to within about 6,000 miles (10,000 km) about two hours before re-entry due to its unpredictable nature, U.S. Air Force Maj. Michael Duncan, deputy chief of the U.S. Strategic Command's space situational awareness division, told reporters on Sept. 9. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544743 United States 09/20/2011 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two satellites crashed in 2009 leaving a dangerous cloud of debris. Quoting: YaKnow [link to www.space.com] cut, Late Friday, similar sky sightings were also received by National Weather Service (NWS) centers in parts of Kentucky. Like Sunday?s reports, the descriptions of explosions in the sky and earthquake-like rumbles were attributed to the likely re-entry of debris from the satellite collision, NWS officials in Jackson, Kentucky said in a statement. ?The Federal Aviation Administration has reported to local law enforcement that these events are being caused by falling satellite debris,? the announcement stated. ?These pieces of debris have been causing sonic booms ? resulting in the vibrations being felt by some residents ? as well as flashes of light across the sky.? end cut.... That doesn't sound logical to me. Seems they're "reaching" to explain the rumbles and sounds. |
theSeachingJones
User ID: 1100447 United States 09/20/2011 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so....... Quoting: theSeachingJones is anyone predicting where the satellite is going to crash? anyone? (I have no idea where its going to crash)(~) From the other thread,this from space.com The U.S. Strategic Command at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., and NASA are keeping a close eye on the falling UARS spacecraft, but have said that they will only be able to pinpoint the satellite's point of impact to within about 6,000 miles (10,000 km) about two hours before re-entry due to its unpredictable nature, U.S. Air Force Maj. Michael Duncan, deputy chief of the U.S. Strategic Command's space situational awareness division, told reporters on Sept. 9. ty anyone else? any guesses? We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people. I forgive myself, I Love myself, I'm sorry, Please forgive me, I forgive you, I love you, Thank you. God Bless You; I Bless You; Bless Yourself(~). Love is the answer ~ Peace be with You. |
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YaKnow
(OP) User ID: 1557122 United States 09/20/2011 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all the Naysavers, We do not know yet what to expect but it has been the subject of debate for a while now and a grid knock out seems plausable. I do wonder why the media has not mentioned this possiblity with the news of this pending satellite falling and the abandonment of the International Space Station. This cascading event is called the Kessler Syndrome which describes the collision of two satellites resulting in orbital debris thus resulting in further satellite explosions and debris afecting other systems. This reminds me of the film I saw as a kid, the one of the atom bomb splitting reaction but in slow motion seperated by many days and differing space craft. Bing... bang... boom... 2009 bing..bang...boom 2011 It can take out the Net according to some sources. [link to www.mindbullets.net] |
Mr. Toppit
User ID: 1158998 United States 09/20/2011 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some people will believe pigs can fly LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536650 The only possibility is some poor person may get hit but they have more chance of winning the lottery 2 weeks in a row. The US military is using VLF weapons on the poor in Iraq. Meteorites falling cause VLF waves which people often hear as a crackling sound. Satellites falling probably have a stronger effect since the plasma trail is greater. VLF communication - a really interesting subject. |