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CHILDREN with DISABILITIES are God's PUNISHMENT to women......read what this douchebag VA lawmaker says!!!!

 
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abductIn a way its true but not fully....


What people do not understand ...Is SIN alters DNA..the more you go with unconfessed sin the more you damage your DNA.

Which goes back to the bible in DEUT 28 where it talks about generational curses.

DNA damage can go to the 3 & 4 generations and this is scientifically proven
through genetics. However what Science will not admit is how the mutation happens. Which is right in the bible under blessings and curses....


Many Christians say we are free from the curse...Ahhh yes that is true..However that is only if we seek forgiveness and no where in the bible does it say we are free from the CONSEQUENCES of the curses other then when we die we go to heaven.


The key to fixing the curses is to pray for forgiveness for your family, your ancestors back to four generations. EVEN if they are dead. cones the sin, ask for the forgiveness etc...

if you ever wonder why we just keep cycling through generation after generation its because every one will soon realize that the last generation will be the one that will come to this knowledge and purify the genetics...
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The central thing christians need to return to is to reject lying and guile.
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Virginia lawmaker: Children with disabilities are God’s punishment to women who previously had abortions.wtf



Virginia State Delegate Bob Marshall (R) spoke at a press conference against state funding for Planned Parenthood. He blasted the organization for supporting a women’s right to choose, saying that God punishes women who have had abortions by giving them disabled children:


“The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” said Marshall, a Republican.

“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”


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There are no words for douchebags like this!!
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“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”

No, not dedicated - more like SACRIFICED - LITERALLY!!
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Virginia lawmaker: Children with disabilities are God’s punishment to women who previously had abortions.wtf



Virginia State Delegate Bob Marshall (R) spoke at a press conference against state funding for Planned Parenthood. He blasted the organization for supporting a women’s right to choose, saying that God punishes women who have had abortions by giving them disabled children:


“The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” said Marshall, a Republican.

“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”


Full story here...

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There are no words for douchebags like this!!
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“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”

No, not dedicated - more like SACRIFICED - LITERALLY!!
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first BORN
not first CONCEIVED

are you sure you read that one right ?
Computer sais no ...

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He would not last long in the Canadian parliament, the mp's themselves would tear him apart for a comment like that, especially Fletcher, who is disabled.
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^ this is the problem, not enough people with disabilities in gubbmint and the law.
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how does someone like that even get elected?
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Just another example of people only voting for the letter R, in this case, or D beside the name instead of the character of the person.

I'm really beginning to wonder why law making should be a full-time job.
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His mother must have had an abortion cuz he was born with a mental disability.


What a POS......
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OK This guy need to say that to my face. I would be in prison..BUT...this douchebag wouldn't walk away.

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In a way I get what he means. Most of the things ancients said about the world and how it works are coming true so yeah....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


The christians see it as a punishment and no doubt there is a reaction for having an abortion . We can close our eyes and wish really really hard for this not to be so .....but that dont work really .

Obviously for taking life there is a reaction , but to be so stupid as to say its kids with disabilities as a punishment to them , is a little out there .

So does it say in the bible if you abort a child then you will give birth to a child with disabilities .???
Whats his quote on this ?
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In a way I get what he means. Most of the things ancients said about the world and how it works are coming true so yeah....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


The christians see it as a punishment and no doubt there is a reaction for having an abortion .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


its not "punishment" enough for a woman to have an abortion in the first place?
what if it was the child of her rapist ?
what if doctors told you the child was so much disabled that it would not survive past 2 ? (yeah, that happens ...)
what if it was the product of incest ?

I'm not talking about any other reasn , personally
someone already made a thread about that

Thread: .. do you believe in abortion .. do you believe in punishing your child with physical punishment ..

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Sure you're a Christan , try harder . Real Christians do not support the murder of life .
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Real christians don't lie. Have you ever lied?
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Yes they do and yes I do . Lame argument .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492692


No this is what fake christians have deceived themselves about, God hates all liars, satan is the father of lies, when you lie, you honour satan.
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thou who casts the first stone ... happened to just look over that one didn't you ?
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I'm a christian and I'm pro-choice. A lot of anti-abortionists are simply women haters who conceal their agenda behind a phony faith. He's not only a woman hater but a disability hater too. Almost as dumb as some of these Imams who make dopey statements about women.
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big one up ac !
If you had an account I'd have thrown some green at you !

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OMG, My first born is mentally handicapped and I never had an abortion, and I know women how have had 2 abortions before they were married then years later started a family and their kids are fine.
What an asshole, I take it he doesnt have children with handicaps.
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if he had he would not have made that comment
if he will in the future ...karma is a BITCH ! LOL !
 Quoting: Doomwaffles

It sure is. He's an absolute fuckwit.
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Screw him. I have 2 autistic brothers. And another one who is bi-polar.
He can go stright to hell (pardon my language....and my pun).
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In a way I get what he means. Most of the things ancients said about the world and how it works are coming true so yeah....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


The christians see it as a punishment and no doubt there is a reaction for having an abortion .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


its not "punishment" enough for a woman to have an abortion in the first place?
what if it was the child of her rapist ?
what if doctors told you the child was so much disabled that it would not survive past 2 ? (yeah, that happens ...)
what if it was the product of incest ?

I'm not talking about any other reasn , personally
someone already made a thread about that

Thread: .. do you believe in abortion .. do you believe in punishing your child with physical punishment ..
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


We should let a soul take birth , no matter the circumstances , because that soul needs to also live out its karmic reactions for good and bad from previous lives . If you cut short the chance for that soul to take the body it has been designated too then you only force that soul to keep trying untill a body is allowed to birth .

The same karma will apply for that soul except you made it prolong its attempts . You were harshly cruel to that souls new body by inflicting pain to likk it inside a safe haven .
You are torturing that soul inside the womb . Just allow the flow of the Tao or flow of life to progress unhindered and maybe you yourself will recieve many blessings for serving that soul destiny and doing all you can to help it progress to a higher birth next time .

Would you not want the same for yourself in that situation ??
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In a way I get what he means. Most of the things ancients said about the world and how it works are coming true so yeah....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


The christians see it as a punishment and no doubt there is a reaction for having an abortion .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


its not "punishment" enough for a woman to have an abortion in the first place?
what if it was the child of her rapist ?
what if doctors told you the child was so much disabled that it would not survive past 2 ? (yeah, that happens ...)
what if it was the product of incest ?

I'm not talking about any other reasn , personally
someone already made a thread about that

Thread: .. do you believe in abortion .. do you believe in punishing your child with physical punishment ..
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


We should let a soul take birth , no matter the circumstances , because that soul needs to also live out its karmic reactions for good and bad from previous lives . If you cut short the chance for that soul to take the body it has been designated too then you only force that soul to keep trying untill a body is allowed to birth .

The same karma will apply for that soul except you made it prolong its attempts . You were harshly cruel to that souls new body by inflicting pain to likk it inside a safe haven .
You are torturing that soul inside the womb . Just allow the flow of the Tao or flow of life to progress unhindered and maybe you yourself will recieve many blessings for serving that soul destiny and doing all you can to help it progress to a higher birth next time .

Would you not want the same for yourself in that situation ??
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lol
your whole reply just makes me think you completely miscomprehend the word " birth " and/or "born" , how about we start from there , seems to be hard enough as it is without getting into the more philosophical issues ....

*sarcasm off*
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I'd be interested to know in general (not necessary in relation to this theory) how many kids with disabilities were firstborn children? A lot of the ones I know were, including my son, but I don't do the abortion thing. There are plenty of reasons why (or sometimes not) a child is born with problems.
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The christians see it as a punishment and no doubt there is a reaction for having an abortion .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


its not "punishment" enough for a woman to have an abortion in the first place?
what if it was the child of her rapist ?
what if doctors told you the child was so much disabled that it would not survive past 2 ? (yeah, that happens ...)
what if it was the product of incest ?

I'm not talking about any other reasn , personally
someone already made a thread about that

Thread: .. do you believe in abortion .. do you believe in punishing your child with physical punishment ..
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


We should let a soul take birth , no matter the circumstances , because that soul needs to also live out its karmic reactions for good and bad from previous lives . If you cut short the chance for that soul to take the body it has been designated too then you only force that soul to keep trying untill a body is allowed to birth .

The same karma will apply for that soul except you made it prolong its attempts . You were harshly cruel to that souls new body by inflicting pain to likk it inside a safe haven .
You are torturing that soul inside the womb . Just allow the flow of the Tao or flow of life to progress unhindered and maybe you yourself will recieve many blessings for serving that soul destiny and doing all you can to help it progress to a higher birth next time .

Would you not want the same for yourself in that situation ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


lol
your whole reply just makes me think you completely miscomprehend the word " birth " and/or "born" , how about we start from there , seems to be hard enough as it is without getting into the more philosophical issues ....

*sarcasm off*
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


so instead of taking it to philosophical spheres
let me answer your question by another one ...
what do you think about birth control ?
a very effective pre emptive remedy for abortion after all !

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The christians see it as a punishment and no doubt there is a reaction for having an abortion .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


its not "punishment" enough for a woman to have an abortion in the first place?
what if it was the child of her rapist ?
what if doctors told you the child was so much disabled that it would not survive past 2 ? (yeah, that happens ...)
what if it was the product of incest ?

I'm not talking about any other reasn , personally
someone already made a thread about that

Thread: .. do you believe in abortion .. do you believe in punishing your child with physical punishment ..
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


We should let a soul take birth , no matter the circumstances , because that soul needs to also live out its karmic reactions for good and bad from previous lives . If you cut short the chance for that soul to take the body it has been designated too then you only force that soul to keep trying untill a body is allowed to birth .

The same karma will apply for that soul except you made it prolong its attempts . You were harshly cruel to that souls new body by inflicting pain to likk it inside a safe haven .
You are torturing that soul inside the womb . Just allow the flow of the Tao or flow of life to progress unhindered and maybe you yourself will recieve many blessings for serving that soul destiny and doing all you can to help it progress to a higher birth next time .

Would you not want the same for yourself in that situation ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


lol
your whole reply just makes me think you completely miscomprehend the word " birth " and/or "born" , how about we start from there , seems to be hard enough as it is without getting into the more philosophical issues ....

*sarcasm off*
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


I think it is you who does not understand that if people would stop meddling with nature , those children would be born !!! Is that too hard for you to understand ?
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I'd be interested to know in general (not necessary in relation to this theory) how many kids with disabilities were firstborn children? A lot of the ones I know were, including my son, but I don't do the abortion thing. There are plenty of reasons why (or sometimes not) a child is born with problems.
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what would it prove ?
if you do that study you'll have to do other ones finding why those women had abortions in the first place
I named my three reasons where I can totally understand , even tho I have a fourth I have nt yet named
- child of her rapist
- product of incest
- was told by doctors in hospital that child was severely disabled and would suffer most part it was alive
my own addon
- the woman felt mentally and psychologically unfit to carry through the pregnancy and had a drug problem ...trust me, you yourself would not want to be born in that position ....
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its not "punishment" enough for a woman to have an abortion in the first place?
what if it was the child of her rapist ?
what if doctors told you the child was so much disabled that it would not survive past 2 ? (yeah, that happens ...)
what if it was the product of incest ?

I'm not talking about any other reasn , personally
someone already made a thread about that

Thread: .. do you believe in abortion .. do you believe in punishing your child with physical punishment ..
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


We should let a soul take birth , no matter the circumstances , because that soul needs to also live out its karmic reactions for good and bad from previous lives . If you cut short the chance for that soul to take the body it has been designated too then you only force that soul to keep trying untill a body is allowed to birth .

The same karma will apply for that soul except you made it prolong its attempts . You were harshly cruel to that souls new body by inflicting pain to likk it inside a safe haven .
You are torturing that soul inside the womb . Just allow the flow of the Tao or flow of life to progress unhindered and maybe you yourself will recieve many blessings for serving that soul destiny and doing all you can to help it progress to a higher birth next time .

Would you not want the same for yourself in that situation ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462


lol
your whole reply just makes me think you completely miscomprehend the word " birth " and/or "born" , how about we start from there , seems to be hard enough as it is without getting into the more philosophical issues ....

*sarcasm off*
 Quoting: Doomwaffles


I think it is you who does not understand that if people would stop meddling with nature , those children would be born !!! Is that too hard for you to understand ?
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nope , i can understand where you come from
I just don't agree .... free speach is a bitch ....
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And we understand where you come from and you dont like free speech either .

Wow ! so what do you like about life . Nothing I would imagine as you glorify death rather than celebrate a life , no matter what the circumstances of the birth is .
You want everything to be some *ideal * of your definition ?

We all want to rule the world by our very natures , but there are already Karmic laws in place . The Universe is not a random one .
All we can do is try and be compassionate to all souls , not matter what their bodies are to you who judge them as not fit to exist .
Try a little tenderness
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and for the record...God does not punish!!
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Except for burning forever in eternal hellfire... but that doesn't count, right?
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and for the record...God does not punish!!
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Except for burning forever in eternal hellfire... but that doesn't count, right?
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Wrong dude.

Get a clue!
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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I bump and give this 5 stars just so people can see how much and idiot this Guy is.

Trolls keep your ignorant comments to yourselves.

God does not punish people.
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another opinion. YOU do not know 100%
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Actually I do know 100%. He knows why we do things and is the most understanding and loving parent you could ever have. Why would He ever feel the need to punish us?
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

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Sure you're a Christan , try harder . Real Christians do not support the murder of life .
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Real christians don't lie. Have you ever lied?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9015985


Yes they do and yes I do . Lame argument .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492692


No this is what fake christians have deceived themselves about, God hates all liars, satan is the father of lies, when you lie, you honour satan.
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Dude, you should really seek professional help. You have some MAJOR ISSUES you need to deal with!!

God does NOT hate, not even satan.
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.
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Riiiiiiiight... but what does God DO exactly?
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He allows your dumass to exist!
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

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Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!Read the book ,he is one of the biggest mass murderers known to man.I don't need to site any passsages or quote from the book..but everyone who had read it knows this.You need to wake up.
God doesn't punish huh..he obviously punished you by not giving you a brain.Man this site never ceases to amaze does it.
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You're supposed to know the difference!

Were you born this stupid or do you have to work at it?
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.





GLP