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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212477 United States 07/05/2012 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason some things are hidden is because this is a test. The angels knew everything yet 1/3 of them rebelled. That had to have been extremely painful for God. So create a being who cannot see everything, and if that being is still loyal to you even with his handicap... how sweet. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15257500 Netherlands 07/05/2012 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason some things are hidden is because this is a test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 The angels knew everything yet 1/3 of them rebelled. That had to have been extremely painful for God. So create a being who cannot see everything, and if that being is still loyal to you even with his handicap... how sweet. Why would it be painful for God even though he knew "the betrayal" would happen when he created them? Or are you suggesting God is not omniscient? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212477 United States 07/05/2012 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason some things are hidden is because this is a test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 The angels knew everything yet 1/3 of them rebelled. That had to have been extremely painful for God. So create a being who cannot see everything, and if that being is still loyal to you even with his handicap... how sweet. Why would it be painful for God even though he knew "the betrayal" would happen when he created them? Or are you suggesting God is not omniscient? I'm sure it is possible for God to choose whether or not He wishes to view the future. Even if He chose to view the future He is likely able to put it out of His mind. We humans put unpleasant things out of our minds all the time that we don't want to think about. |
FCL
User ID: 1306187 United States 07/05/2012 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all life gradually drifts back to source-consciousness, why should knowledge of our reality and the universe be a "forbidden fruit?" Quoting: Astrologics Good Question ... The answer being ... the words have been MISREAD ... we are expected to "eat from the tree of knowledge" ... it is the seeking knowledge of good AND EVIL that gets us into trouble ! zombie dance instructor when rainbows fill the sky ... you WILL remember your heart You cannot harm me ... you cannot harm one who has dreamed a dream like mine Pleased to meet you ... Mr. Garibaldi Something's got to stop the flow ...( ink ) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15257500 Netherlands 07/05/2012 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason some things are hidden is because this is a test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 The angels knew everything yet 1/3 of them rebelled. That had to have been extremely painful for God. So create a being who cannot see everything, and if that being is still loyal to you even with his handicap... how sweet. Why would it be painful for God even though he knew "the betrayal" would happen when he created them? Or are you suggesting God is not omniscient? I'm sure it is possible for God to choose whether or not He wishes to view the future. Even if He chose to view the future He is likely able to put it out of His mind. We humans put unpleasant things out of our minds all the time that we don't want to think about. This is basically saying that God isn't omniscient. Which the Bible directly contradicts. Who says he is paying attention right now to humanity? How can he always send people to the "right" place after they die? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212477 United States 07/05/2012 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason some things are hidden is because this is a test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 The angels knew everything yet 1/3 of them rebelled. That had to have been extremely painful for God. So create a being who cannot see everything, and if that being is still loyal to you even with his handicap... how sweet. Why would it be painful for God even though he knew "the betrayal" would happen when he created them? Or are you suggesting God is not omniscient? I'm sure it is possible for God to choose whether or not He wishes to view the future. Even if He chose to view the future He is likely able to put it out of His mind. We humans put unpleasant things out of our minds all the time that we don't want to think about. This is basically saying that God isn't omniscient. Which the Bible directly contradicts. Who says he is paying attention right now to humanity? How can he always send people to the "right" place after they die? It is not 'basically saying that God isn't omniscient'. That is silly. |
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leveller User ID: 19165419 China 07/05/2012 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all life gradually drifts back to source-consciousness, why should knowledge of our reality and the universe be a "forbidden fruit?" Quoting: Astrologics [link to jesus8880.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19062409 United States 07/05/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean natural law as in the way things are. The laws of physics, matter, energy, evolution.. everything. no such thing....man thinks he knows what is what.but your lil science teachers get smacked around daily.1 day they claim to know for a fact about something,a year later they have to take it back and say opps that was a mistake,this here is the real truth.lmao |
Ardhanarishvara
User ID: 12662903 United Kingdom 07/05/2012 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the fruit wasn't forbidden there'd be no hidden magic to discover. :sun:Ardhanarishvara | You died, and death was complete freedom from suffering - bliss. But it very quickly got lonely and repetitive in bliss, so you decided to be born once more. You've been doing this forever. Whilst I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death my right to disagree with you. Some say "think outside the box". I say "what fucking box?!" xx:taosmilie: |
RDprofessor
User ID: 14210592 United States 07/05/2012 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The teachings and instructions of the Holy Bible, especially in its entirety which of course includes the New Testament, is indeed at odds with some, but not all, of the natural state of This World AFTER THE FALL OF MAN, not before. God's creation was turned over at the fall. Jesus Himself said "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would certainly strive that I should not be delivered to the jewish people: but now my kingdom is not from hence." The "natural" way of this world brings us all to death, misery, and iniquity, until the Second Coming. |
Brian Moser
User ID: 5430870 United States 07/05/2012 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15257500 Why would it be painful for God even though he knew "the betrayal" would happen when he created them? Or are you suggesting God is not omniscient? I'm sure it is possible for God to choose whether or not He wishes to view the future. Even if He chose to view the future He is likely able to put it out of His mind. We humans put unpleasant things out of our minds all the time that we don't want to think about. This is basically saying that God isn't omniscient. Which the Bible directly contradicts. Who says he is paying attention right now to humanity? How can he always send people to the "right" place after they die? It is not 'basically saying that God isn't omniscient'. That is silly. Anthropomorphizing God is "silly". While it's simpler to think of God as having personality and referring to the idea as "He" (or even "She", for that matter), it does contradict the definition of perfection. To say that God has personality is to say that "He" is subjective to emotions and makes choices based on mood. This would imply that God is capable of being irrational and therefor, makes mistakes. To me, "God" is a name that is synonymous with the idea of nature - infinite consistency. It is everything and ultimately, in control of all existence. All things in life occur "naturally". When people say that only God can judge, it's an indirect way of saying shit happens and all you can do is control your own actions. Being bitter towards others will destroy you quicker than you can destroy another. Anyway... RE: the OP's question - We need doubt to provoke thought. The enjoyment we get from watching a movie comes from not knowing how it will end. We can guess. We have assumptions. Yet, we don't know it and that keeps us thinking. "I know that I know nothing" - Socrates |
humanitech User ID: 19169927 United Kingdom 07/05/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all life gradually drifts back to source-consciousness, why should knowledge of our reality and the universe be a "forbidden fruit?" Quoting: Astrologics Friend if you take away our hierarchal, polarised and linear progression delusions..you will see and find...that we all are just random bipolar expression of bipolar energy and matter within an infinite bipolar recycling (process) universe. Hence the constant conditional reality of conflict between all potential interactions therein. It isn't complex really..but sadly doesn't suit the hierarchal ego's and aspirations of self delusional bipolar humans beings..who simply want to be like the gods and devils...they create and fear...thats all. |