saudi arabia the cause of problems in the middle east not israel

They both equally contribute.

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saudi arabia is the cradle of modern islamic terrorism
and USA's ally

Fuck that.

Saudi Arabia is a million times worse than Israel.

If you cannot understand that then you are FUCKING retarded.

Saudi Arabia is a fucking monarchy where shariah law goes. Every move they make is detrimental for the people in the region. Get a freaking clue.

A million times worse? Dude, shut up.

And Israel is a fascist apartheid police state run by crazies that think they're "the chosen people". Both support terrorism, both use us to fight their wars.

Fuck em all.

calm down bro....

I REALLY THINK THE USA IS THE PROBLEM IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND EVERY WHERE ELSE OBAMAS MILITARY SPREADS PEACE AND DEMONOCRACY

probably

but when you look at who has more to gain its the saudis

they rule their country with a brutality that is unrivaled yet its ignored by the western media because no one wants to upset that apple cart


if the israelis went cutting hands off and covering up women it would be in the news every single day

but the saudis do it every single day yet it never gets mentioned

the whole syria situation has come about because the saudis are worried about iran so they want a sunni government to help break the ties with iran and leave them isolated

especially since the saudis lost their only other friend in the region

sadam

and lets look at how that played out

the man who had links with both the saudis and the cia is blamed for an attack on the wtc on 9 11

does this force an invasion of saudi arabia

no
iraq gets invaded

why

because sadam had openly threatened the saudis

israel doesnt benefit no matter who comes into power

sunni shia

they all want the destruction of israel

but do they

this has been the message put out by imams from saudi arabia

the same imams who stir up the religious hatred that gets blamed on the terrorists

iran is a threat to both saudi arabia and israel

but nothing is mentioned of the saudi threat only the threat it poses to israel

iran and saudi arabia are fighting a war by proxy in syria

why do you think the US is backing the sunni rebels

its helping its ally the house of saud

israel isnt better off who ever wins

assad or the so called rebels

the saudis benefit with one less ally for iran

Saudi Arabia is a Whaibi state. The Wahibi sect of Isalm. Wahibi Vs. Shia and Suni is about the equivilent of Protestant Vs. Catholic. They get along at times but are fundimentaly at odds with each other to the point of bloodletting at times.

I was told that the British founded the Wahibi sect in the 1920's to keep the middle east fractured. I don't know how true that is, but the mid east is certainly fractured because of it.

Hear ye, Hear ye, Ignoranus did well to inform us with the use of trigger words about the evil "zionist", fascist and apartheid, "chosen people"(most government folk don't give a flying fuck about religion and use a religious image to keep the dumb religious masses calm).

Listen here you ignorant cunt.

I bet you drink or use some kind of drugs. Maybe you're gay or maybe you're an atheist or maybe you're a Christian.

All these wouldn't cause you trouble, even if you openly stated your beliefs in Israel.

However, do the same in Saudi Arabia and see what happens.

It's all Rothschild & Oppenheimers fault.

The inflow of Muslims setting up residence in London was / is sponsored by Saudi.
Saudi Arabia is also a psychotic hotbed.
It has the worlds largest number of psychotic people.
Islam was created by demons to spread psychosis.
This is its operating frequency to world demonic infestation.

exactly

if people actually sat back and looked at who really controls the middle east

its the saudis

they control the religion

they control the mosques

the saudi royal family is a dictatorship that rules with an iron fist

yet it is allied with the most powerful country in the world

the US

the royal family keep themselves out of the media spotlight
how or why would they do that

yet they control huge wealth

they have some of the worst poverty in the world in a country that should be one of the richest

Israel was also created by British Oil tycoons.

I guess they created Saudi and Israel to keep the region in perpetual war while they pump the black goop out of the ground.

Hey tard, maybe you should read the thread title before you run your damn mouth. This isn't about who is the better turd of a nation, it's about who causes the most problems in the middle east.

You're an idiot.

How can Israel cause more trouble for the region than Saudi Arabia when one treats its own people with respect while the other treats its own people like dogs? It is only logical for the one that treat its own like dogs to treat others as even less. Whether that be with actions or political posturing, or simply in the way they set up their country and mold their people.

Go read some more before you call someone a tard. It's obvious to historians that the Wahabi sect is the root cause of fucking terrorism as we know it. So if they know it and write about it, I'm guessing you can read it and learn from it.

Do you have some selected literature to show the class?

Do you deny that Israel has perpetrated acts of terrorism in the past to influence the US's ME foreign policy?

That sounds about right. The british did not want a return of a united Ottoman empire in the middle east. That's why they drew up countries and chose royal families from among bunch of goat herding peasants. They gave those families near absolute power, of course because nobody is ever going to give up absolute power to reunite the old empire.

It was all a big screw over of the middle east done by the Brits with help from the French. The perpetual war thing I think is relatively new. That's all done to pump up arms sales. Whenever the US gives Israel a squadron of f-16's paid for by the US taxpayer, Saudi has to buy another squadron with their oil money to maintain something resembling parity. Saudi and the US taxpayer get it right in the ass, and that's half the reason Israel exists and will continue to exist.

The day the arabs figure out how badly they're being played for suckers is going to be a bad day for US defense stocks.

Why can most Americans realize that Saudi Arabia is responsible for all terrorism conducted against the U S. They want to make the entire Middle East like Saudi Arabia and they want to spread their evil wahabi salafist extremism everywhere. Filthy dirty Arabs. Fukcken Saudi SANDRATS! Fuck your islamic BS

They don't care as long as the petrol dollars keep flowing. The Saudi leadership cannot see past their own noses.

the oppression in saudi arabia starts with its own people and spreads outwards

the royal family live in pure luxury

their women shop in harrods and on 5th avenue

they dont walk round with their faces covered

dining in the finest restaurants and drinking some of the worlds exclusive wines when alcohol is illegal in their country upon pain of death

women are not allowed to drive or else they will be beaten

this is all about control

consolidating their power

oppressing the people and keeping the countries around them in turmoil to cement their own positions

im not saying israel is blameless

they could sort out a lot of the problems in the middle east if they wanted to but the politicians in israel like in all democratic countries are owned by corporations who get rich from the profits of war so why bite the hands that feeds you

but the real problems for the troubles the real problems for the oppression the suppression is in my opinion saudi arabia

This topic is not about who influenced the US's foreign policy it's about who is more damaging to the region. If you knew anything about the people in that region you'd know that the Wahabi cunts are more dangerous for the region than Israel could ever be.

I don't deny that shit, just like I can't deny that Saudi Arabia is a fucking backward country that delivered the 9/11 terrorists and is still friends with America. Fuck man, Osama bin Laden was a Saudi Arabian for crying out loud.

Saudi Arabia is doing everything it can to weasel away power from the other OPEC nations in order to horde more wealth. It's like the fucking Vatican of the Middle East.

people need to open their eyes and see

who actually benefits from the instability

saudi arabia has never been invaded or attacked yet has enough arms and weaponry to wipe out half its neighbours

they are openly funding the syrian rebels

they were the ones behind the muslim brotherhood in egypt

the destabilse the countries


these countries install some muppet who makes rousing speeches against israel

more guns get sold

more arms get sold

more politicians get rich

while the corporations profit from it all

It all started with the British Empire poking around the globe.

think...!!!!!!!!

The "Bad Romance" between the USA and Saudi Arabia has it's interesting points. Ben Ladin hated the relationship but he wanted to make us believe it was because of Israel that he hated USA. He could not let his Arab brothers down by saying that he really hated the Saudi royal Arabs more than he hated the J.ews.

The Saudi royals should fear radical Islam. It will get around to jihad with them one day.

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