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Comprehensive Survival Food List & Storage Guide

 
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Comprehensive Survival Food List & Storage Guide
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Survival food storage practice doesn’t require Mormon membership, but the tradition, wrought from their first Utah winter, is worth emulating should disaster strike or technology fail, two survival books by Mat Stein. This guide, Part 2 of my survival series, relies on Stein’s books, and websites dedicated to survival preparedness.

At its most basic, food storage wisdom demands that you buy what you eat, and organize and label the boxes or bins with contents and date. Stocks should be rotated based on shelf-life longevity. Using Stein’s general guide, when properly packaged and stored, various foods last several months, years or decades, as follows:

10 years or longer: Honey, sugar, salt, soy sauce, apple cider vinegar, black pepper, Worcestershire sauce and wheat berries.

5-10 years: Most dried legumes and whole grains, dehydrated cheese, instant or vacuum-packed coffee, baking powder, powdered eggs and frozen butter.

Up to 5 years: Processed (partially hydrogenated) liquid vegetable oils, Crisco shortening, cornmeal and corn flour, and nonfat powdered milk.

2-3 years: Bullion cubes, cornstarch, white rice, powdered gelatin, white wheat flour, white flour pasta, tapioca, textured vegetable protein, hydrogenated peanut butter, catsup, canned salmon and sardines, most dried fruits, and most other canned foods except meats, some fish and fruits, as well as sprouting seeds (alfalfa, mung, soybean, wheat, etc.).

Up to 18 months: Canned meats and seafood (halibut, mackerel, tuna and shrimp), unshelled raw nuts, dry active yeast, bagged snack chips, cake mixes, dry pudding, herbal and black teas, bottled juices, most seasonings and extracts, jams and jellies, canned non-citrus fruits (blackberries, blueberries, cherries, pears, peaches, plums, etc.), cranberry sauce, pickles, canned rhubarb, and sauerkraut.

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Any suggestions is much appreciated..hf
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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When stored in a cool dry place, most items will last a lot longer than that. Please don't throw away all your food just because a bs website tells you to.

Of course if your an idiot who will eat something even if it looks and smells weird, then go by those suggestions.
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Learning to do your own canning can be cheaper than buying food already processed. Even people living in the city, without gardening space, can take advantage of sales.

This weekend's canning, based on grocery sales, will be chicken (for soups and casseroles) $.59 on sale, pork roast (for bbq sandwiches) $.99 on sale, apple butter, spiced apples, and lemon marmalade. Aldi's has avocado's for $.39 each, and I found information online how to freeze the pulp to be used in guacamole at a later time.
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thanks for the post-website

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bump for later review and to keep it in the limelight
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You would think crisco had a 100 year shelf life unopened ...
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In my opinion those expiration dates are ridiculous. White rice, if kept dry, will last for many, many years. The same goes for dried beans and dehydrated anything.

I recently sampled a can of spam that was five years past its expiration and it was perfectly good. An unsealed bag of Kelloggs fat-free granola was still crispy and delicious, also after FIVE years.

I agree with the poster above; Use your own senses and good common sense. Even foods that are stale can often be refreshed with a light toasting at a lower temperature. They can also be ground up and used as a coating or made into dog treats. (If you haven't eaten your hound already).
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The figures on that website are dead fucking wrong.

White rice doesn't last 2-3 years, if stored properly it can last 30 years or more.

That article sucks fucking donkey dick and licks balls.

Shitty info is no different than dis-information.

That dumb fuck author needs to STFU about food storage as she/he doesn't know jack fucking shit about the topic, obviously.

Why does such horseshit get pinned.

Fucking morans.
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I heard that a lot of the medicines last much longer than their pull date, but they put pull dates to make you buy it every year or so. Mind you, this is not true for ALL medicines, so a little research might be in order. However, I am leaving work in sixty seconds, so y'all will have to figure it out on your own.
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!st WATER, 2nd food, third shelter..basic
Fish for water if you can....
If you live near the west coast or where theres fog or lots of dew, build a large lite vertical frame, place small 6d nails about 1/8th apart across the top and bottom of frame, angle the bottom nails down, run fishing line up and down between the nails tight, place a peice of raingutter under frame and angle one end down and place bucket under that end. Water will condense on fishing line run down and drip from the bottom angled nail into the gutter then bucket....Old west coast indian trick...enjoy it...
Also. always be ready for rain...dig a hole line with plastic, two layers use dirt from hole to hold plastic in place around edge and leave a very large peice for a rain catch flap...if it rains fold out flap that will run rain water into hole,The flap has to be higher then hole so dig on hill, run flap uphill, after rain use flap to cover the hole to avoid evaporation and junk in water...black plastic sheet works best, use one large peice and fold back and forth to line hole and leave flap....100gal = 2' x 7 'x 1' deep hole. Thats not a big hole!! For every 1ft deeper add 100gal….

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FILTER ALL WATER for drinking and cooking!!!!!!!
have some bleach on hand, add 5 drops per gal
and get a pump up garden sprayer, black or paint black for solar heating...have a shower if you have the extra water and spray clean instead of TP...
Just remember....DONT EAT THE YELLOW SNOW!!!!...LOL
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Mormons buy ,store and rotate a lot of canned and processed boxed foods. They must rotate their food storage for ever. Then they continously have to eat that crap. Buy 20-30 year storage-foods (emergency type). Don't worry about rotating and just eat it when you have too. Today, Eat fresh. The Mormon food storage concept is Good...sorta, kinda.
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In my opinion those expiration dates are ridiculous. White rice, if kept dry, will last for many, many years. The same goes for dried beans and dehydrated anything.

I recently sampled a can of spam that was five years past its expiration and it was perfectly good. An unsealed bag of Kelloggs fat-free granola was still crispy and delicious, also after FIVE years.

I agree with the poster above; Use your own senses and good common sense. Even foods that are stale can often be refreshed with a light toasting at a lower temperature. They can also be ground up and used as a coating or made into dog treats. (If you haven't eaten your hound already).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374417


^^^ This

I have never heard of such short shelf lives for food! The Best Used Before dates stamped on the cans are longer than that! Dried grains and legumes last for decades, even longer. They have sprouted grains found in Inca and Egyptian burials, for heavens sake.

I have found that high acid foods like tomatoes or grapefruit juice will eat into the protective coating on the inside of the can if kept too long after the expiration date and will develop a metallic taste. So there is an issue of food quality, though I am sure that it won't poison you, and for sure would be better than starvation.

Legumes will last a long long time, but they dehydrate and have to be soaked before you cook them, or they are kind of crunchy, no matter how long you boil them. But, even legumes that are kind of crunchy when cooked can be mashed up well and put into breads, using a zucchini bread or applesauce bread like recipe. Substitute cooked, mashed legumes for the fruit or veggie in the recipe and add more sweetener and adjust liquids if necessary. It will give you a substantial, highly nutritious bread product.

A pressure cooker (pot) is a good buy, it cooks foods in far less time than regular boiling or roasting, and often does a good job of softening up things like crunchy beans or tough meat.

Regardless of what the Activist Post says, baking powder doesn't seem to last a long time, it looses it's "oomph", so you have to use a little more. If you store mixes like corn bread or biscuit mix they will not rise if you keep them too long after the expiration date, but you can add some baking powder when you mix them up. But they still last a long time if you keep them in a cool place and take into account that the leavening will go flat on you. You can use cream of tarter, acid+soda for leavening. You can catch wild yeast and make a sourdough starter for raised bread products too. Get some recipes and instructions off the web before the internet goes down to a solar flare or something.

The Mormons and the Seventh Day Adventists have good information on food storage and using natural ingredients.
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Learning to do your own canning can be cheaper than buying food already processed. Even people living in the city, without gardening space, can take advantage of sales.

This weekend's canning, based on grocery sales, will be chicken (for soups and casseroles) $.59 on sale, pork roast (for bbq sandwiches) $.99 on sale, apple butter, spiced apples, and lemon marmalade. Aldi's has avocado's for $.39 each, and I found information online how to freeze the pulp to be used in guacamole at a later time.
 Quoting: Daisy Clover


Or the farmer's market during the summer. A lot of people say their farmer's market is expensive so maybe I'm lucky. I can get a plastic shopping bag full of various veggies for around 10 bucks. And I mean packed to the brim and something's probably going to fall out.
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If you store any kind of spices, powders etc they do lose their oomph, but typically you're okay just using a little more.

Fresh garlic when braided lasts quite some time (cool dark place)

Put onions in a nylon stocking and tie a knot between each onion. As long as they don't touch they last for quite some time in a cool dark place.

Pressure canning can allow you to can pretty much anything. Presto makes a unit that uses actual weights instead of a gauge and I find that a lot easier and you don't really have to worry about things going wrong quite so easily. Friendly tip for pressure canning, as soon as you hit that processing point (for a dial canner if the dial is on the desired pounds or if the weighted topper is rattling) turn your heat down a notch. Not a lot.. just a notch. That way you keep a consistant heat without it going overboard.

This isn't a food item, but I make my own laundry detergent and one batch lasts us a good four months. That's even with two young boys who are little walking messes. It lasts just fine on the shelf, its easy to make (powder or gel) and has a variety of uses.
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You would think crisco had a 100 year shelf life unopened ...
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If it goes bad you can still keep it for an emergency candle. They're supposed to burn for quite a while. I haven't done it, I've just heard about it.
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I heard that a lot of the medicines last much longer than their pull date, but they put pull dates to make you buy it every year or so. Mind you, this is not true for ALL medicines, so a little research might be in order. However, I am leaving work in sixty seconds, so y'all will have to figure it out on your own.
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Didnt one of the companies that sells KI Potassium Iodide pills get caught a few years ago taking expired pills and putting them in a new bottle with new dates.Most these survival sites are nothing but over priced bunk.Can go to a regular store and stock what you need with much better taste etc for 1/10 th the money.Total rip off selling based on peoples fear.
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Prescriptions May Last for Decades After Expiration Date, Study Say


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Health expert Lee Cantrell, director of the San Diego division of the California Poison Control System and his colleagues, tested eight drugs that had expired 28 to 40 years ago. The drugs contained different active ingredients such as aspirin, codeine and hydrocodone.

Read more at [link to www.medicaldaily.com]

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clappa thanks for this
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We take our emergency preparedness food out every 6 months and put it in the kitchen cupboards so we can eat it. Then, we re-fill with new emergency food.

This way, we always have fresh food in storage and don't mind eating what we took out since it's only 6 mos. old. And yes, some of it takes imagination to make palatable, but that's the point. I know how to use it if and when an emergency comes.

So, we do our trade-off Labor Day week-end and Valentine's week. You could also do it spring forward/spring back.

I have thought about starting a family Labor Day cook-off so everyone gets in the habit of cooking with dried foods. Just haven't instigated it yet. But I think it's a good idea so if and when an emergency happens, everyone already has some skills.
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Just smell the food if you think it's too old. If it is rotten you will know. Canned foods can last as much as 100 years and still be ok to eat, but just have a loss of vitamins, and calories.
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so you need books and websites to tell you about food?

humans have always eaten in, even before they were human they ate it.




maybe there is also money in books and websites that tell you how to breathe...




and the list doesn't include water....
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Ready Depot has canned cheese and butter from New Zealand.
They claim the cheese has a 10-15 year shelf life, the butter-infinite.

Their Yoders canned bacon is claimed to be good for 10+ years.
I've eaten it after 6 years. It was better than I expected.

Their other canned meats have similar 10+ year shelf lifes.

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When stored in a cool dry place, most items will last a lot longer than that. Please don't throw away all your food just because a bs website tells you to.

Of course if your an idiot who will eat something even if it looks and smells weird, then go by those suggestions.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Starve to death or...

Cook the shit out of it and fucking eat.

I'm going with option 2. I'd have strength to help the non-idiot find a berry to help them last another 7 hours.

Pussies would never last in this kind of environment. The mind is delicate. If it's not roughed up and hardened your emotions will eat you away as fast as starvation and the elements.

Drinking water is the primary factor in survival if you don't live in a cold, snowy environment.

Three necessities (water, shelter, food)
In these orders respectively...

Desert = water, food, shelter
Jungle = food, shelter, water
Snow = shelter, food, water
Temperate = water, shelter, food


Get it right.
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Two weeks ago I used a 6-year old can of cheese
to mix with butter and elbow macaroni.
It was really good!
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These threads are always welcomed, because we know that shtf soon.
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Real maple syrup, like honey, last a long tIme.
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Thanks OP!
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so you need books and websites to tell you about food?

humans have always eaten in, even before they were human they ate it.




maybe there is also money in books and websites that tell you how to breathe...




and the list doesn't include water....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25453939


While its true that stocking food is common sense.. not everyone has a realistic idea of how much, how to, how long.





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