Secrecy in Freemasonry

Yeah, and so do Catholics.

And God bless you too.

Sure I can see it, but to me a secret is a secret and an oath is what I hope the person I have a secret with will keep and not break. Hence, they are once and the same or else there would be no secrets. Surely you understand this?

In the 7th age, we will have a world where merit and morality will guide decision making. Unfortunately, it looks like we have a lot of work to do and I suggest we work together trying to affect this change, rather than attack the very groups who can assist us in these matters.

I work with neither, as I have said.

Now this is the last I am going to say it.

Make one more association with me and the Freemasons, and you will no longer be posting in my threads.

Understood?

I STAND ALONE.



Last Edited by IAMIAM on 02/15/2013 09:01 PM

I am not trying to start a shit storm with you but please really do read the first paragraph you posted again. It might be hard to understand but go back to what I originally posted. Just because nobody talks about it does not mean its unknown or secret. The secret is only a secret to the unknown. Everybody knows if they seek it. The whole "secret" is the "secret" which is not a secret at all.

I know it really all appears as BS from time to time but just the simplicity of it is what is so compelling.

And you have to come to a point and realize when does a Mason become a Brother? A Mason is a Mason and a Brother is a Brother.

Every degree, and what is done in those degrees, are kept a secret for those in lower degrees. There is nothing sinister in this, it is simply to make the experiences of the higher degrees and rituals more powerful and deep than they would been if already knowing it all. Just as watching a movie is more rewarding if you dont know the full plot and everything that will happen beforehand. Or like an archaeological expedition, where you are digging into deep treasures in a new location never explored before, having amazement towards what you will find, and great wonder. I consider it to be like that archaeological metaphor myself, since it is a similar type of feeling and rewarding sensation when you discover the treasures.

There are also many more than 33 degrees. 33 degrees are only part of one branch of Freemasonry which is the Scottish Rite. I am part of that as well as others, which I find more interesting and having up to 99 degrees.

To my knowledge there are currently no higher than 99 degrees in any rites these days, although it is possible in some osbscure and very hidden underground masonic systems I am not aware of.

Well, that actually is my point, that the majority do not know the aims because it is kept secret.

The proof to me that the illuminati do exist and do manipulate world events, is exactly the reasonableness of your excuses for the continuance of the old system.

The gods of reason and nature..

God's law is so different from that, and even if now it seems that most have swallowed the lies disguised as intelligent thinking, the truth will come out, and this old system will go.

An oath is far more than a hope that someone will keep a secret (the oaths freemasons take have been posted twice on this thread already).
They are binding contracts that ensure no matter what the order is, it will be obeyed, over and above any other loyalty, no matter whether the outcome is understood or not, and what makes it potentially evil is that the masons believe the end justifies the means.

Blind allegiance, and the majority do not know they are working towards a total control of the world.

Some illuminati history:

"Members were acquainted only with their immediate superiors, and only a few trusted members knew that Weishaupt was the founder and supreme head of the order. All the members were obliged to give themselves a training in accordance with the aims of the society, and to make themselves useful, while the order, on its part, pledged itself to further their interests by the most effectual means.
They were especially recommended to systematically observe persons and events, to acquire knowledge, and to pursue scientific research in so far as it might serve the purposes of the order.
Concerning all persons with whom they had intercourse they were to gather information, and on all matters which could possibly affect either themselves or the order they were to hand in sealed reports; these were opened by superiors unknown to the writers, and were, in substance, referred to the general. The purpose of this and other regulations was to enable the order to attain its object by securing for it a controlling influence in all directions, and especially by pressing culture and enlightenment into its service.
All illuministic and official organs, the press, schools, seminaries, cathedral chapters (hence, too, all appointments to sees, pulpits, and chairs) were to be brought as far as possible under the influence of the organization, and princes themselves were to be surrounded by a legion of enlightened men, in order not only to disarm their opposition, but also to compel their energetic co-operation. A complete transformation would thus be effected; public opinion would be controlled; "priests and princes" would find their hands tied; the marplots who ventured to interfere would repent their temerity; and the order would become an object of dread to all its enemies."


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What I have come to realize is that when you start keeping secrets, you tend to work for yourself, and against humanity.

No good organisation keeps secrets unless they are doing something nefarious.

"When we set out to deceive, oh what a tumbled web we weave."

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... See the similarities between your posted image and the one below, Gnasty Warrior?

IF this is true, then consider this...

Husbands keep secrets from wives.

Parents keep secrets from their children.

Churches keep secrets from their flock.

The flock keeps secrets from their Churches.

The Governments keep secrets from their people,

and the people keep secrets from their government.

God keeps secrets from Man,

and Man foolishly tries to hide it all from God.


And all the secrets hidden in dark places,

like a cancer, grows and subdues all that is Life.