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Sandy Hook: were fake police used?

 
HooleyDooley
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Sandy Hook: were fake police used?
I am hoping, with the help of others here, to put forward a fully reference compilation of evidence that fake police were used on the day of the "Great Sandy Hook Stage Show".

I don't have time today to fully reference all the points I am going to make, so if someone else has the references handy perhaps they could post them and I will add them to this opening post. If I post something from memory and it is proven wrong or I can't reference it then I will remove it.

If someone else adds evidence in the thread I will add it to this post.

1) Police, and dispatch, did not use alpha phonetics in the audio about the black Honda, below is a quote from a source which cannot be linked to on this site:

"During the course of the running of the black Honda, this ALPHA PHONETIC police and dispatch protocol was totally out the window and not used at all. I listened to that audio last night in utter disbelief. Between the alleged officers running the plate through dispatch, and the dispatcher herself, the data was read to and fro like any normal citizen would read data on a radio. They did not use the ALPHA PHONETIC protocol that is ingrained in both the officer and the dispatcher."

[link to audio required]

2) Police mishandle long weapon in back of black Honda, they appear to have no concerns about contaminating evidence which would be contrary to real police training.

[link to www.youtube.com]

(didn't Vance say he was going to examine those weapons even to the point of finding out where the individual parts were manufactured? [ref required] yet they are not worried about wiping fingerprints etc)

3) Policeman clearing shed at the start of this video is holding gun with one hand and even appears to be holding the gun horizontal "gangsta" style. Police are extensively trained in how to hold and use a firearm, they do not use whatever method they want:

[link to www.youtube.com]

4) Policeman is running out into open during evacuation, you don't run in an evacuation and if he thinks there is a second shooter he should be ducking and taking cover behind the cars, you can't outrun a bullet.

[link to lightbox.time.com]

Running out into the open like that would go against all his police training, so I'm giving him a police FAIL.




Any more? I wills spend some more time on this later.

Last Edited by HooleyDooley on 02/16/2013 08:48 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: were fake police used?
I am hoping, with the help of others here, to put forward a fully reference compilation of evidence that fake police were used on the day of the "Great Sandy Hook Stage Show".

I don't have time today to fully reference all the points I am going to make, so if someone else has the references handy perhaps they could post them and I will add them to this opening post. If I post something from memory and it is proven wrong or I can't reference it then I will remove it.

If someone else adds evidence in the thread I will add it to this post.

1) Police, and dispatch, did not use alpha phonetics in the audio about the black Honda, below is a quote from a source which cannot be linked to on this site:

"During the course of the running of the black Honda, this ALPHA PHONETIC police and dispatch protocol was totally out the window and not used at all. I listened to that audio last night in utter disbelief. Between the alleged officers running the plate through dispatch, and the dispatcher herself, the data was read to and fro like any normal citizen would read data on a radio. They did not use the ALPHA PHONETIC protocol that is ingrained in both the officer and the dispatcher."

[link to audio required]

2) Police mishandle long weapon in back of black Honda, they appear to have no concerns about contaminating evidence which would be contrary to real police training.

[link to www.youtube.com]

(didn't Vance say he was going to examine those weapons even to the point of finding out where the individual parts were manufactured? [ref required] yet they are not worried about wiping fingerprints etc)

3) Policeman clearing shed at the start of this video is holding gun with one hand and even appears to be holding the gun horizontal "gangsta" style. Police are extensively trained in how to hold and use a firearm, they do not use whatever method they want:

[link to www.youtube.com]




Any more? I wills spend some more time on this later.
 Quoting: HooleyDooley


very interesting.
the point 2 and 3 were already suspected.
but the radio recording (point 1.) i dont think.
but it exists no complete transcript.
nobody want to do the job?
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yeah...i liked the down to where every part was manufactured lol
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Our state police are really unintelligent .. I wish Vance was fake, he is an ass .. he is real, ..I sued the State police a few years ago and had to deal with him ..
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I think an Australian PR firm is being used to spread absurd disinformation
To discredit legitimate inconsistencies with the official narrative.
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i'll echo that connecticut state police are a bunch of idiots. unfortunately, paul vance is a real cop :p
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I think an Australian PR firm is being used to spread absurd disinformation
To discredit legitimate inconsistencies with the official narrative.
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Interesting. Name of the firm?

Let me guess... "Jews Down Under inc"? ;-)
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these are some good points..


they may be just incompetent at their jobs, let's not forget that option. but sadly they put up a good show and the nation is already deriding the "looney nutter sandy hook conspiracy theorists" just like they have done to "9/11 truthers" and "obammy birthers"


too bad all of these things are 100% conspiracies and definitely leading up to a final agenda of control.

people are so ignorant these days.
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Our state police are really unintelligent .. I wish Vance was fake, he is an ass .. he is real, ..I sued the State police a few years ago and had to deal with him ..
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I ran across one of those suits; Konow was one of the defendants as I recall (the Collin Konow who was lost in the woods 12/14).
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I think an Australian PR firm is being used to spread absurd disinformation
To discredit legitimate inconsistencies with the official narrative.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11298011


Funny...I've run into some Aussies, too, in this.

John Long-Fong Hsu is an exec with QBE the Americas; QBE is Australia's largest international insurer/reinsurer.

QBE's gross written premium was US$18.3 billion in 2011.
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Should have added that, significantly, QBE is one of the top 20 insurers worldwide.
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As recently as March 2012, a class action lawsuit moved forward against Wells Fargo and QBE. In his decision, Judge Scola agreed with plaintiffs, that Wells Fargo and QBE had "colluded in a scheme to artificially inflate the premiums charged to homeowners.”

QBE makes almost no (if any) public statements on these matters; it would be completely consistent with their tight-lipped business culture to hire people to "scrub" the internet of negative QBE news (it's harder to find than for other companies, or so it seems to be so far), as well as have people hired to "guide public opinion" as we say in China.
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2) Police mishandle long weapon in back of black Honda, they appear to have no concerns about contaminating evidence which would be contrary to real police training.

[link to www.youtube.com]






 Quoting: HooleyDooley


That video is fake. They wait till sundown to check his trunk?
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Connecticut State Agencies (CT)

State Police Radio Codes

56 - Assault With Weapon

Code A - Emergency
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If my memory is correct, first time I saw vid of policeman handling gun from trunk, I was shocked to notice he wasn't wearing gloves. Every subsequent time I see the video, focus is very blurred and you can't see the hands clearly anymore.
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Re: Sandy Hook: were fake police used?
I just added:

4) Policeman is running out into open during evacuation, you don't run in an evacuation and if he thinks there is a second shooter he should be ducking and taking cover behind the cars, you can't outrun a bullet.

[link to lightbox.time.com]

Running out into the open like that would go against all his police training, so I'm giving him a police FAIL.



I was going to add this photo showing the policewoman wearing the wrong shoes:

[link to lightbox.time.com]

But considering how many cops turned up out of uniform it could be claimed she was just an off duty officer who responded. (There is something wrong with the amount of (off duty?) cops out of full uniform at sandy hook)

There is also a photo or vid of a cop holding a gun not by it's handle, it looks like he just picked up a toy gun and is walking with it, I can't find it so if someone else could post it that'd be good.





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