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| Matt C
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| Matt C
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| Channelingmyself
User ID: 4136 United States03/01/2013 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is would I want my children to worship me? Answer, no. I want them to think for themselves and not depend on me to tell them what they should learn on their own. No matter what I will still love them. |
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User ID: 29317919 United States03/01/2013 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My personal spiritual quest has taken me to all ends of theology, mythology and philosophy that I had to really think about what the question I was really asking was? Quoting: Matt C For me, and I think many others, the question has always been "Does God exist?" Well, that's a fine question to which men have debated countless millenia over. I had to break down what I was really looking for into a more answerable(?) question. So, I asked "Would a benevolent God really want their creation to worship them?" In no faculty of thought, can I possibly reason to believe a benevolent God would want its creations to worship them. I would want those creations to grow, thrive, prosper and progress to the point of equality. To see those creations as peers. So, whether a divine entity exists or not, I have found irrelevant because I would not worship it either way. I acknowledge it. I accept it. I strive to be its peer. Nothing more. He's not the kind you have to wind up on a Sunday. 1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p |
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User ID: 26875870 United States03/01/2013 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My personal spiritual quest has taken me to all ends of theology, mythology and philosophy that I had to really think about what the question I was really asking was? Quoting: Matt C For me, and I think many others, the question has always been "Does God exist?" Well, that's a fine question to which men have debated countless millenia over. I had to break down what I was really looking for into a more answerable(?) question. So, I asked "Would a benevolent God really want their creation to worship them?" In no faculty of thought, can I possibly reason to believe a benevolent God would want its creations to worship them. I would want those creations to grow, thrive, prosper and progress to the point of equality. To see those creations as peers. So, whether a divine entity exists or not, I have found irrelevant because I would not worship it either way. I acknowledge it. I accept it. I strive to be its peer. Nothing more. How do you know how to be its peer? mhmmmmm |
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| acuk User ID: 35359357  United Kingdom03/01/2013 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, idolization is not the way, worship life and all its wonders, love, truth, happiness, etc... Walk with god, as god walks with you, inside you, the good voice you hear, that is your god, be grateful for all you have and always start with that, being grateful, it will brighten your day...And smile more. |
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| Matt C
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| Matt C
(OP) User ID: 12216826 United States03/01/2013 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If He wants it than He wants it. I think moreso He wants you to be thankful/greatful for the things that you have been given. And not to abuse these things. But again, if He wants worship why would you ask "why"? Honest question Quoting: IamHim 34985387 This is asinine. I assume you follow one of the Abrahamic religions. If your god asks you to kill your child you wouldn't ask why? Abraham didn't. Why? To test his faith. That is no benevolent god. |
| 9teen
User ID: 20521597 United Kingdom03/01/2013 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  You'll get plenty of feedback if you die in your sins.THIS WAS YOUR LIFE!... [link to www.chick.com] |
| Matt C
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34985387 United States03/01/2013 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If He wants it than He wants it. I think moreso He wants you to be thankful/greatful for the things that you have been given. And not to abuse these things. But again, if He wants worship why would you ask "why"? Honest question Quoting: IamHim 34985387 This is asinine. I assume you follow one of the Abrahamic religions. If your god asks you to kill your child you wouldn't ask why? Abraham didn't. Why? To test his faith. That is no benevolent god. If I knew it was the One who Created ALL things no I would not ask why. Because at the end of the day life is His. So He can give and take it as He pleases no? What does He actually OWE to you? NOTHING. WE OWE HIM. He gave us life. He gave us a perfect world and look what we turned it into. And no Im not speaking of the "original sin" Im talking about the wars and destruction we have placed on this world. And I believe in the God of Abraham but do not specifically follow any of the Abrahamic faiths. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24999671  New Zealand03/01/2013 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :grizzy: You'll get plenty of feedback if you die in your sins. THIS WAS YOUR LIFE!... [link to www.chick.com] why always with the threats.. I have never understood that, why does this God need to threaten its followers?? Makes no sense |
| Matt C
(OP) User ID: 12216826 United States03/01/2013 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, idolization is not the way, worship life and all its wonders, love, truth, happiness, etc... Walk with god, as god walks with you, inside you, the good voice you hear, that is your god, be grateful for all you have and always start with that, being grateful, it will brighten your day...And smile more. Quoting: acuk 35359357 :D Smiling is great. I've always got a stupid one on my face. I am awed and marvelled by love, truth, happiness, beauty etc.. but can't worship it. |
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| acuk User ID: 35359357 United Kingdom03/01/2013 04:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, idolization is not the way, worship life and all its wonders, love, truth, happiness, etc... Walk with god, as god walks with you, inside you, the good voice you hear, that is your god, be grateful for all you have and always start with that, being grateful, it will brighten your day...And smile more. Quoting: acuk 35359357 :D Smiling is great. I've always got a stupid one on my face. I am awed and marvelled by love, truth, happiness, beauty etc.. but can't worship it. Haha I meant it in a way, that if you are to worship something worship life, we all have our own path. Have a good day (cheesy smile) hahahaha  |
| Matt C
(OP) User ID: 12216826 United States03/01/2013 04:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is would I want my children to worship me? Answer, no. I want them to think for themselves and not depend on me to tell them what they should learn on their own. No matter what I will still love them. Quoting: Channelingmyself Great response Agreed. This was the foundation for my original question. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16227053 Netherlands03/01/2013 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is that a god, creator (equal to us) created this universe of light and we came here to explore this universe in all dimensions. We came as starseeds, explored all dimensions and almost ready to be universal creators of light ourselves (not all of us yet). The god creator of this universe does not want any worship, why should (s)he? That's what churches and the entities behind religion want us to do, a false entitie god which made human believe in Him.. but that is not the creator god of this universe.. but the creator of the 4th dimension (false light/dark). |
| IamHim User ID: 34985387 United States03/01/2013 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is would I want my children to worship me? Answer, no. I want them to think for themselves and not depend on me to tell them what they should learn on their own. No matter what I will still love them. Quoting: Channelingmyself Lol of course not you are a man that will die and pass away. Who's memory will be lost eventually. That is a little different from a God who existed before ALL things dont you think? |
| IamHim User ID: 34985387 United States03/01/2013 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :grizzy: You'll get plenty of feedback if you die in your sins. THIS WAS YOUR LIFE!... [link to www.chick.com] why always with the threats.. I have never understood that, why does this God need to threaten its followers?? Makes no sense What do humans say? Do the crime do the time? Something like that. What I mean is the judicial system makes threats as well. Do you question why they need to threaten followers? |
| Matt C
(OP) User ID: 12216826 United States03/01/2013 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is would I want my children to worship me? Answer, no. I want them to think for themselves and not depend on me to tell them what they should learn on their own. No matter what I will still love them. Quoting: Channelingmyself Lol of course not you are a man that will die and pass away. Who's memory will be lost eventually. That is a little different from a God who existed before ALL things dont you think? So what of jesus? More importantly, no. Gods of all eras have been lost to time. One's, I'm sure, were not of a finite existence in their related lore. Nothing escapes time. Not even gods. |
| Molech User ID: 35362274 United States03/01/2013 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My personal spiritual quest has taken me to all ends of theology, mythology and philosophy that I had to really think about what the question I was really asking was? Quoting: Matt C For me, and I think many others, the question has always been "Does God exist?" Well, that's a fine question to which men have debated countless millenia over. I had to break down what I was really looking for into a more answerable(?) question. So, I asked "Would a benevolent God really want their creation to worship them?" In no faculty of thought, can I possibly reason to believe a benevolent God would want its creations to worship them. I would want those creations to grow, thrive, prosper and progress to the point of equality. To see those creations as peers. So, whether a divine entity exists or not, I have found irrelevant because I would not worship it either way. I acknowledge it. I accept it. I strive to be its peer. Nothing more. Ahhh...the same mindset Lucifer had... |
| IamHim User ID: 34985387 United States03/01/2013 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is would I want my children to worship me? Answer, no. I want them to think for themselves and not depend on me to tell them what they should learn on their own. No matter what I will still love them. Quoting: Channelingmyself Lol of course not you are a man that will die and pass away. Who's memory will be lost eventually. That is a little different from a God who existed before ALL things dont you think? So what of jesus? More importantly, no. Gods of all eras have been lost to time. One's, I'm sure, were not of a finite existence in their related lore. Nothing escapes time. Not even gods. What about Jesus? And let me ask you a question. Why does the state of Israel exist? |
| Matt C
(OP) User ID: 12216826 United States03/01/2013 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My personal spiritual quest has taken me to all ends of theology, mythology and philosophy that I had to really think about what the question I was really asking was? Quoting: Matt C For me, and I think many others, the question has always been "Does God exist?" Well, that's a fine question to which men have debated countless millenia over. I had to break down what I was really looking for into a more answerable(?) question. So, I asked "Would a benevolent God really want their creation to worship them?" In no faculty of thought, can I possibly reason to believe a benevolent God would want its creations to worship them. I would want those creations to grow, thrive, prosper and progress to the point of equality. To see those creations as peers. So, whether a divine entity exists or not, I have found irrelevant because I would not worship it either way. I acknowledge it. I accept it. I strive to be its peer. Nothing more. Ahhh...the same mindset Lucifer had... Lol.. Lucifer meaning bringer of light. So, if you imply I'm bringing light to your dark world then thank you :D |
| IamHim User ID: 34985387 United States03/01/2013 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | worship definition The feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity. Whats wrong with doing this to the One that gave you life? Gave you an existence where everything (well before the elite took away things) that we need is within reach? We didnt have to go to the moon to get water and mars to get food. Everything on earth. Whats wrong with showing appreciation for these things? |
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| Matt C
(OP) User ID: 12216826 United States03/01/2013 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I see it is would I want my children to worship me? Answer, no. I want them to think for themselves and not depend on me to tell them what they should learn on their own. No matter what I will still love them. Quoting: Channelingmyself Lol of course not you are a man that will die and pass away. Who's memory will be lost eventually. That is a little different from a God who existed before ALL things dont you think? So what of jesus? More importantly, no. Gods of all eras have been lost to time. One's, I'm sure, were not of a finite existence in their related lore. Nothing escapes time. Not even gods. What about Jesus? And let me ask you a question. Why does the state of Israel exist? Your statement of the man that will die and pass away. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16227053 Netherlands03/01/2013 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | worship definition Quoting: IamHim 34985387 The feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity. Whats wrong with doing this to the One that gave you life? Gave you an existence where everything (well before the elite took away things) that we need is within reach? We didnt have to go to the moon to get water and mars to get food. Everything on earth. Whats wrong with showing appreciation for these things? Well.. you have always excisted.. we are all infinite beings, now having a human experience. Mother Earth is giving us water and food.. not some god who has to be worshipped.. no, that's illusion. |
