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Hydra
User ID: 37931509 Germany 04/12/2013 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, there is much that is right with the Zetas message, but that is not the present subject. For now, what is “wong”? The Zeta site Earth Changes and the Pole Shift will kick out members who are perceived as too critical or “debunking”, as they call it. It happened to me when I asked for an explanation of how a pole shift requiring about 8000 miles of surface movement could happen in only one hour, as they claim. This policy prevents honest discussion of inconsistencies in their message and thus turns off honest seekers for truth. Quoting: Gali What else is “wong”? 1. They published two predictions of pole shift timing that turned out not to happen when predicted, one being a prediction that the pole shift would happen before 12/21/2012. 2. They claim that Planet X has been in the inner solar system since 2003. It is now 10 years later! Since then, the earth has made 10 revolutions of the sun, and Venus and Mercury even more! A planet on an elliptical orbit toward the sun should be like a comet, taking only a month or two at most to swing around from its closest approach and head back out into space beyond the inner planets. Why isn't this happening with Planet X? Come on, Zetas and Nancy, stop saying “Zetas right again” and explain why you seem to be “wrong again”. You owe us all a clear, honest explanation. Poleshit-Nancy has only one problem: She has no answer to questions like yours. She has no answer to a lot more questions. Thus there is the rule at the poleshift.ning: "No debating the reality of Planet X and the validity of ZetaTalk." You are on the right way - logical thinking will show that there is no earth wobble, no Planet X and no pole shift - that Poleshit-Nancy simply is a liar. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States 04/12/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wonder, what's the agenda, why is there Zetatalk? Someone has been fed a lot of lies, believed them, thought they would help the world by revealing what they thought the world needed to know, that a Planet X in our near future (near in 1995) would destroy our civilizations, and that we needed to be warned. Someone started the lie Who was it? And why? |
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Menow User ID: 37935705 United States 04/12/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, there is much that is right with the Zetas message, but that is not the present subject. For now, what is “wong”? The Zeta site Earth Changes and the Pole Shift will kick out members who are perceived as too critical or “debunking”, as they call it. It happened to me when I asked for an explanation of how a pole shift requiring about 8000 miles of surface movement could happen in only one hour, as they claim. This policy prevents honest discussion of inconsistencies in their message and thus turns off honest seekers for truth. Quoting: Gali What else is “wong”? 1. They published two predictions of pole shift timing that turned out not to happen when predicted, one being a prediction that the pole shift would happen before 12/21/2012. 2. They claim that Planet X has been in the inner solar system since 2003. It is now 10 years later! Since then, the earth has made 10 revolutions of the sun, and Venus and Mercury even more! A planet on an elliptical orbit toward the sun should be like a comet, taking only a month or two at most to swing around from its closest approach and head back out into space beyond the inner planets. Why isn't this happening with Planet X? Come on, Zetas and Nancy, stop saying “Zetas right again” and explain why you seem to be “wong again”. You owe us all a clear, honest explanation. Actually, Nancy and "Zetas" claim that Earth stopped orbiting the sun in 2003 and ever since. Didn't you know that was part of her story? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States 04/12/2013 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, there is much that is right with the Zetas message, but that is not the present subject. For now, what is “wong”? The Zeta site Earth Changes and the Pole Shift will kick out members who are perceived as too critical or “debunking”, as they call it. It happened to me when I asked for an explanation of how a pole shift requiring about 8000 miles of surface movement could happen in only one hour, as they claim. This policy prevents honest discussion of inconsistencies in their message and thus turns off honest seekers for truth. Quoting: Gali What else is “wong”? 1. They published two predictions of pole shift timing that turned out not to happen when predicted, one being a prediction that the pole shift would happen before 12/21/2012. 2. They claim that Planet X has been in the inner solar system since 2003. It is now 10 years later! Since then, the earth has made 10 revolutions of the sun, and Venus and Mercury even more! A planet on an elliptical orbit toward the sun should be like a comet, taking only a month or two at most to swing around from its closest approach and head back out into space beyond the inner planets. Why isn't this happening with Planet X? Come on, Zetas and Nancy, stop saying “Zetas right again” and explain why you seem to be “wong again”. You owe us all a clear, honest explanation. I think it's better to just take it for what it is, don't argue about it, just weigh it, evaluate it, accept or reject it, but don't try to have it explained. Someone who is devoting their life to getting out this message just needs to be allowed to do that. Asking questions makes you look like you think you might believe if they work just a bit harder at it. You know it's a lie, like any religion, but just in case it's not, you keep an open mind. It defeats the purpose to ask uncomfortable questions. Those are for your own mind, your own decision-making process. You should not ask to be convinced. |
Menow User ID: 37935705 United States 04/12/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, there is much that is right with the Zetas message, but that is not the present subject. For now, what is “wong”? The Zeta site Earth Changes and the Pole Shift will kick out members who are perceived as too critical or “debunking”, as they call it. It happened to me when I asked for an explanation of how a pole shift requiring about 8000 miles of surface movement could happen in only one hour, as they claim. This policy prevents honest discussion of inconsistencies in their message and thus turns off honest seekers for truth. Quoting: Gali What else is “wong”? 1. They published two predictions of pole shift timing that turned out not to happen when predicted, one being a prediction that the pole shift would happen before 12/21/2012. 2. They claim that Planet X has been in the inner solar system since 2003. It is now 10 years later! Since then, the earth has made 10 revolutions of the sun, and Venus and Mercury even more! A planet on an elliptical orbit toward the sun should be like a comet, taking only a month or two at most to swing around from its closest approach and head back out into space beyond the inner planets. Why isn't this happening with Planet X? Come on, Zetas and Nancy, stop saying “Zetas right again” and explain why you seem to be “wong again”. You owe us all a clear, honest explanation. I think it's better to just take it for what it is, don't argue about it, just weigh it, evaluate it, accept or reject it, but don't try to have it explained. Someone who is devoting their life to getting out this message just needs to be allowed to do that. Asking questions makes you look like you think you might believe if they work just a bit harder at it. You know it's a lie, like any religion, but just in case it's not, you keep an open mind. It defeats the purpose to ask uncomfortable questions. Those are for your own mind, your own decision-making process. You should not ask to be convinced. Heh... we don't ask questions to be convinced. We ask hard questions because we know it's bullshit and we want to expose it for the hoax it is. |
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Gali
(OP) User ID: 22789467 United States 04/12/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Menow, I knew that. That claim has a lot of problems, as if you stop the earth in its orbit, you stop the seasons also. But they had an answer for that also, but IMO not good enough. All kinds of artificial adjustments were claimed, but I doubt if the COW could do them all. Very suspicious. |
Gali
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Little Baby Jesus
User ID: 7127676 United States 04/13/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nancy is a fraudulent liar, she always was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37966857 Her whole story is a third-class Science Fiction hoax. What if Nancy has always told the truth, but its just the Zetas who are the liars? Doesn't change the fact that it's all fabricated to 'confound' the masses. This is a clever distraction ploy. BKK ----------------------- "A God of the Gaps is assigned responsibility for what we do not yet understand." Carl Sagan |
Hydra
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Little Baby Jesus
User ID: 7127676 United States 04/13/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if Nancy has always told the truth, but its just the Zetas who are the liars? Quoting: theorigionalzombiekiller I guess this will be Poleshit-Nancys final excuse for her last dozen believers. . The question I've always ask myself is, does she actually believe her horseshit? BKK ----------------------- "A God of the Gaps is assigned responsibility for what we do not yet understand." Carl Sagan |
Gali
(OP) User ID: 22789467 United States 04/14/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is the Earth stopped in its orbit around the sun? Let’s consider what it would take to keep the seasons going if that were the case. Here is a thought experiment: Imagine that on a large table you have a glowing light bulb in the center, and off to one side about 3 feet away a 1” diameter foam ball. The ball has a toothpick stuck in it, to represent the earth’s axis of rotation. Normally with this model the foam ball would rotate around the light bulb in a circle, but always keeping the toothpick pointing at the same point, say up on the ceiling, representing the North Star. If you started with the toothpick leaning toward the light bulb, that would represent summer, but when the ball went around to the other side it would face away from the bulb and that would represent winter. Now prevent the ball from following its circular path and keep it in one place. How can you simulate the change of seasons, say to winter? You would have to make the toothpick face away from the bulb, but the only way to do this is to tilt the ball so that the toothpick no longer faces the point representing the North Star. So, the Zetas claim that they have been able to fool the public into thinking that things are normal because the seasons are changing as usual, even though the earth has stopped in its orbit. Does anyone think that no one would notice that the North Star is no longer in its usual place? If someone noticed, could they be silenced so as not to spill the beans? I ha’e me doubts, as they say in Scotland. |
Hydra
User ID: 38038203 Germany 04/14/2013 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is the Earth stopped in its orbit around the sun? Let’s consider what it would take to keep the seasons going if that were the case. Here is a thought experiment: Imagine that on a large table you have a glowing light bulb in the center, and off to one side about 3 feet away a 1” diameter foam ball. The ball has a toothpick stuck in it, to represent the earth’s axis of rotation. Normally with this model the foam ball would rotate around the light bulb in a circle, but always keeping the toothpick pointing at the same point, say up on the ceiling, representing the North Star. If you started with the toothpick leaning toward the light bulb, that would represent summer, but when the ball went around to the other side it would face away from the bulb and that would represent winter. Quoting: Gali Now prevent the ball from following its circular path and keep it in one place. How can you simulate the change of seasons, say to winter? You would have to make the toothpick face away from the bulb, but the only way to do this is to tilt the ball so that the toothpick no longer faces the point representing the North Star. So, the Zetas claim that they have been able to fool the public into thinking that things are normal because the seasons are changing as usual, even though the earth has stopped in its orbit. Does anyone think that no one would notice that the North Star is no longer in its usual place? If someone noticed, could they be silenced so as not to spill the beans? I ha’e me doubts, as they say in Scotland. Poleshit-Nancy claims, that Earth is halted in its August position and the Zetas move it up and down to simulate the seasons. If (in your example) you move it up, the southern hemisphere gets more sunlight and the northern less = southern summer, northern winter. If you move it down the northern hemisphere gets more light and the southern less = southern winter, northern summer. It's a quite clever thought by Poleshit-Nancy - Earth axis still points to the pole star. But: You have to move Earth a lot up and down - above and below the ecliptic. Every astronomer on earth would have recognized this, because all planets and stars would be out of place. Thus after some time (I guess someone asked this question) Poleshit-Nancy claimed, that all planets and stars are out of position. But the question Poleshit-Nancy and her Zetas never answered: In August we see the constellations Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces in the night sky. We can't see the constellations Virgo, Leo, Cancer and Taurus because they are behind the sun. If Earth is halted in orbit, regardless how much Earth is moved up and down, we always (all the year) would see Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces in the night sky - Virgo, Leo, Cancer and Taurus would be still behind the sun and thus not visible. But in the northern winter (southern summer) we can see this constellations. This is a simple 100% prove, that Earth is not halted in orbit. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Lornadoom
User ID: 40225521 United States 05/21/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now and then I stumble onto a thread where articulate, reasonable people explore issues. But it's gone quiet. No interest? or fear of angering the Grays? I don't blame Miss Nancy for resenting criticism. Much of the GLP talk is a waste of my valuable time, as I try to glean kernels of truth about the goings-on in the solar system. Who has the time to write all that GLP foolishness? Obviously, middle school students who should be reading literature and memorizing vocabulary and the times table. But nooo, they're busy cluttering up forum threads with their potty-mouthed gibberish. OK, some comments are smart and funny, like the picture of Miss N talking to her Mission Control team. Miss N is very "wong" by not answering the people she calls debunkers. Why won't the Z's say where X is, or when the pole shift will happen? At least a ballpark estimate? How do they know Obama is planning to announce doomsday to the public? What's holding him back? Soros? Banks? Big Corp? Are the Z's Democrats? They must be, since they vigorously defend him, according to Miss N. How is he any better than Bush 2? Besides aren't all top level politicians members of the Illuminati? How else did they rise to power? Maybe the Z's are actually disinformists for the Illuminati? Maybe Schrodinger's cat ate Miss Nancy's dog? Lornadoom |