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The Apparition of Mary, "Queen of Heaven"

 
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People who'd gone to the site to mock the children and the faithful found themselves in tears, staring at the sky in amazement, converted to Christ. Then Our Lady disappeared, and St. Joseph, holding the child Jesus, appeared to the children, blessing the world by signing the Cross in the air. This apparition went away, and then Christ and Mary (as Our Lady of Sorrows) appeared, Christ blessing the world as his step-father had done. Then Our Lady appeared alone again, only to Lucia's

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They converted to "Christ".
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yeah, what christ did they convert to ?

What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!


Proverbs 30
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Oh you tell us in case it doesnt sound jewish enough for you
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] who has ears let the hear what the Sovereign one the Lord of Hosts has to say. I love you all.
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People who'd gone to the site to mock the children and the faithful found themselves in tears, staring at the sky in amazement, converted to Christ. Then Our Lady disappeared, and St. Joseph, holding the child Jesus, appeared to the children, blessing the world by signing the Cross in the air. This apparition went away, and then Christ and Mary (as Our Lady of Sorrows) appeared, Christ blessing the world as his step-father had done. Then Our Lady appeared alone again, only to Lucia's

[link to www.fisheaters.com]
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They converted to "Christ".
 Quoting: Angel Helper

yeah, what christ did they convert to ?

What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!


Proverbs 30
 Quoting: Shamar


The same one all christians know his name by, Jesus Christ. I am not going to spoon feed the truth to you, you do your own research as I can see you are SPLITTING HAIRS NOW but the more you persecute me the more Grace our Lord and Savior sends. So be it.
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‘A dog returns to its vomit,’ and, ‘A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud’” (2 Peter 2:22). The dogs and swine here are representative of those who would ridicule, reject, and blaspheme the gospel once it has been given to them. We are not to put forth the gospel of Jesus Christ in the direction of someone who has no other purpose than to trample it and return to his own evil ways. We identify such people through discernment, which is given in some measure to all Christians (1 Corinthians 2:15-16).

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Here's a tidbit for the discussion. Google Simon Magus (the sorcerer) and you will see who started all these religious concepts. Google Simon Magus and the Catholic Church.
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Is it not written keep my word and follow my commandments? Thus many spoke close to the ear of god but there hearts are miles away.
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People who'd gone to the site to mock the children and the faithful found themselves in tears, staring at the sky in amazement, converted to Christ. Then Our Lady disappeared, and St. Joseph, holding the child Jesus, appeared to the children, blessing the world by signing the Cross in the air. This apparition went away, and then Christ and Mary (as Our Lady of Sorrows) appeared, Christ blessing the world as his step-father had done. Then Our Lady appeared alone again, only to Lucia's

[link to www.fisheaters.com]
 Quoting: Angel Helper


They converted to "Christ".
 Quoting: Angel Helper

yeah, what christ did they convert to ?

What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!


Proverbs 30
 Quoting: Shamar


The same one all christians know his name by, Jesus Christ. I am not going to spoon feed the truth to you, you do your own research as I can see you are SPLITTING HAIRS NOW but the more you persecute me the more Grace our Lord and Savior sends. So be it.
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LOL!! I am PERSECUTING you? haha, oooooooooookay.

well we all know the Son's name is not really "jesus"......but nevertheless, you completely dismissed and disregarded the Father.......so what is the Father's name?

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They converted to "Christ".
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yeah, what christ did they convert to ?

What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!


Proverbs 30
 Quoting: Shamar


The same one all christians know his name by, Jesus Christ. I am not going to spoon feed the truth to you, you do your own research as I can see you are SPLITTING HAIRS NOW but the more you persecute me the more Grace our Lord and Savior sends. So be it.
 Quoting: Angel Helper

LOL!! I am PERSECUTING you? haha, oooooooooookay.

well we all know the Son's name is not really "jesus"......but nevertheless, you completely dismissed and disregarded the Father.......so what is the Father's name?
 Quoting: Shamar


Oh let me guess according to you Jesus was a good jewish rabbi?

chuckle

I think he would find that very amusing indeed..
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Fathers name is unimportant. For he has sent many messengers including the one Teacher our Christ,our lord,our king. Even my King says only bow to the Father and seek him day and night. All your body,all your soul.
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lets skip..hop and jump over the fact that he saiud..before whatshisname..I AM

therefore intemporal (above time/eternal)

lets skip..hop..and waltz around the fact He said he is as the Father..who is Spirit..therefore not His flesh though incarnate..

lets skip hop and tango around the Sermon of the Mount that explained the New Covenant and how it deferred to the previous one..point by point?
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Your post is so full of incorrect and misleading information, I can't respond to it all. What apparition of Mary are you referring to? There are hundreds, if not thousands, reported across the globe. The Catholic church has only approved a handful of these apparitions.

If you really want to know what the Catholic church actually teaches about Revelation and about Mary, why don't you look to the Catechism instead of relying on outside disinformation agents?

Do you even know what an intercessor is? Do you even know what the 'Communion of Saints' is? Catholics do not worship or idolize Mary. They regard her as a loving mother, just as Jesus taught:

"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." John 19:26-27. You think these words made the Book of John, the pinnacle of the Gospels, because Jesus, the son of God, was concerned nobody would take care of his mother?

Mary was born without sin - if she had been a sinful person, how could she possibly have carried in her womb the perfect, sinless and divine Jesus? He had to be born perfect - unsoiled by the sin and evil of this world.

Catholics honor Mary's purity and her complete abandonment to the will of God. This is not idolatry - we don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us because she is so beloved by the Father and by Jesus. How can you dishonor Jesus by loving his mother - whose entire existence was dedicated to giving glory and honor to the Father and the Son? It's impossible! We pray to Mary only asking her to pray on our behalf - we do not worship her. We only worship the Triune God (Father, son and Holy Spirit.) All glory and honor belongs to God alone - this is VERY clear in Catholic theology.

That said, Mary clearly has an integral role in God's plan. If you notice above, in the book of John, when Jesus refers to his mother, he uses the word 'Woman' and 'Woman' is capitalized. This conjures up and refers back to the 'Woman' in Genesis - "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, they will strike at your head while you strike at their heel." Genesis 3:15. Mary's complete abandonment to the will of God as well as her purity and her absence of sin are the antidotes to evil in this world. Why should her example not be held up for us to emulate?

Back to the apparitions - it is possible, in fact, very likely, that a large number of these apparitions are either fake or demonic in nature - a trick of the enemy. This is why it is imperative that the faithful should treat any apparition that has not been investigated and approved by the Church. And the Church is very clear on this point.

Are you anti-Christian, or just anti-Catholic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37674349


I chose not to worship the words of a church or men, such as Catechism. A word which not found within the Bible. We are all born sinners, again an idea that you are not familiar with.

Woman relates to the feminine as Jesus is the groom within the bridal chamber, and we all are His bride if present within the chamber. We all our the bride of Christ. I don't expect any Pope, which you call leader and Holy Father, Cardinal, Bishop, or priest can accurately and truthful speak about the bridal chamber, and how it relates to the Holyest of Holies. If they could they would be without a job!

Once again Jesus is intercession and the only, please tell me where in the scriptures it says anything else?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This ^^
George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace...

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Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!!
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what is the meaning of the Protestant meaning of "Born Again."
There is no "water" in their new definition. They don't
want to follow Christ. In John 3, water is a part of
Baptism. If you read further in John 3, I think verse
22, Jesus and the Apostles went out and "baptized."

Why cant you see how you are being used to spread confusion about the scriptures. For example the above statement can be used to demonstrate a bible verse about baptism.

One has to be born of the spirit,but water is the vessel to distribute this Spirit- Saving sacrament. Yet, protestants do not stress the need of Water to be "born again".

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Do we not see. Confusion is not of our Father.
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Can we not see that which is written, has been or did or is now being finalized. Is ig not written, every word of prophecy even down to the letter shall be fulfilled.
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Your post is so full of incorrect and misleading information, I can't respond to it all. What apparition of Mary are you referring to? There are hundreds, if not thousands, reported across the globe. The Catholic church has only approved a handful of these apparitions.

If you really want to know what the Catholic church actually teaches about Revelation and about Mary, why don't you look to the Catechism instead of relying on outside disinformation agents?

Do you even know what an intercessor is? Do you even know what the 'Communion of Saints' is? Catholics do not worship or idolize Mary. They regard her as a loving mother, just as Jesus taught:

"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." John 19:26-27. You think these words made the Book of John, the pinnacle of the Gospels, because Jesus, the son of God, was concerned nobody would take care of his mother?

Mary was born without sin - if she had been a sinful person, how could she possibly have carried in her womb the perfect, sinless and divine Jesus? He had to be born perfect - unsoiled by the sin and evil of this world.

Catholics honor Mary's purity and her complete abandonment to the will of God. This is not idolatry - we don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us because she is so beloved by the Father and by Jesus. How can you dishonor Jesus by loving his mother - whose entire existence was dedicated to giving glory and honor to the Father and the Son? It's impossible! We pray to Mary only asking her to pray on our behalf - we do not worship her. We only worship the Triune God (Father, son and Holy Spirit.) All glory and honor belongs to God alone - this is VERY clear in Catholic theology.

That said, Mary clearly has an integral role in God's plan. If you notice above, in the book of John, when Jesus refers to his mother, he uses the word 'Woman' and 'Woman' is capitalized. This conjures up and refers back to the 'Woman' in Genesis - "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, they will strike at your head while you strike at their heel." Genesis 3:15. Mary's complete abandonment to the will of God as well as her purity and her absence of sin are the antidotes to evil in this world. Why should her example not be held up for us to emulate?

Back to the apparitions - it is possible, in fact, very likely, that a large number of these apparitions are either fake or demonic in nature - a trick of the enemy. This is why it is imperative that the faithful should treat any apparition that has not been investigated and approved by the Church. And the Church is very clear on this point.

Are you anti-Christian, or just anti-Catholic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37674349


I chose not to worship the words of a church or men, such as Catechism. A word which not found within the Bible. We are all born sinners, again an idea that you are not familiar with.

Woman relates to the feminine as Jesus is the groom within the bridal chamber, and we all are His bride if present within the chamber. We all our the bride of Christ. I don't expect any Pope, which you call leader and Holy Father, Cardinal, Bishop, or priest can accurately and truthful speak about the bridal chamber, and how it relates to the Holyest of Holies. If they could they would be without a job!

Once again Jesus is intercession and the only, please tell me where in the scriptures it says anything else?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This ^^
 Quoting: Fantasia II

Mary points to her Son, Jesus Christ as the one to go through to get to the Father. Show me where she dosn't and i'll show you an example of a false apparition. There are only a few approved apparitions ....the others are mostly satan trying to steel the show and confuse. These are the ones many use to try and discredit the true and approved ones with. Blessings.

I do not take any of this diss-ing personal so ask away about any questions. Soon the Holy Sprit is coming and all will become very clear. ;)
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yeah, what christ did they convert to ?

What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!

Proverbs 30
 Quoting: Shamar


The same one all christians know his name by, Jesus Christ. I am not going to spoon feed the truth to you, you do your own research as I can see you are SPLITTING HAIRS NOW but the more you persecute me the more Grace our Lord and Savior sends. So be it.
 Quoting: Angel Helper

LOL!! I am PERSECUTING you? haha, oooooooooookay.

well we all know the Son's name is not really "jesus"......but nevertheless, you completely dismissed and disregarded the Father.......so what is the Father's name?
 Quoting: Shamar


Oh let me guess according to you Jesus was a good jewish rabbi?

chuckle

I think he would find that very amusing indeed..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39221466


Why would he find that amusing? He was Hebrew, an Israelite of the tribe of Judah.....so yes he was "jewish." And he was referred to as "rabbi" The title Rabbi is used 12 times in connection with Jesus, and means "Teacher".

Mark 9:5 and Mark 11:21 by Peter
John 1:38 by two disciples of John the Baptizer
John 1:49 by Nathanael
John 3:2 by Nicodemus
John 6:25 by the crowds
John 4:31; 9:2; 11:8 by disciples not specified
Matthew 26:25, 49; Mark 14:45 by Judas

John 20:16; Mark 10:51 he is called "Rabboni" (My Teacher) by Mary Magdalene and by a blind man whom he healed. [link to wiki.answers.com]

So what is your point? And what does that have to do with the Father's name?
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Your post is so full of incorrect and misleading information, I can't respond to it all. What apparition of Mary are you referring to? There are hundreds, if not thousands, reported across the globe. The Catholic church has only approved a handful of these apparitions.

If you really want to know what the Catholic church actually teaches about Revelation and about Mary, why don't you look to the Catechism instead of relying on outside disinformation agents?

Do you even know what an intercessor is? Do you even know what the 'Communion of Saints' is? Catholics do not worship or idolize Mary. They regard her as a loving mother, just as Jesus taught:

"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." John 19:26-27. You think these words made the Book of John, the pinnacle of the Gospels, because Jesus, the son of God, was concerned nobody would take care of his mother?

Mary was born without sin - if she had been a sinful person, how could she possibly have carried in her womb the perfect, sinless and divine Jesus? He had to be born perfect - unsoiled by the sin and evil of this world.

Catholics honor Mary's purity and her complete abandonment to the will of God. This is not idolatry - we don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us because she is so beloved by the Father and by Jesus. How can you dishonor Jesus by loving his mother - whose entire existence was dedicated to giving glory and honor to the Father and the Son? It's impossible! We pray to Mary only asking her to pray on our behalf - we do not worship her. We only worship the Triune God (Father, son and Holy Spirit.) All glory and honor belongs to God alone - this is VERY clear in Catholic theology.

That said, Mary clearly has an integral role in God's plan. If you notice above, in the book of John, when Jesus refers to his mother, he uses the word 'Woman' and 'Woman' is capitalized. This conjures up and refers back to the 'Woman' in Genesis - "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, they will strike at your head while you strike at their heel." Genesis 3:15. Mary's complete abandonment to the will of God as well as her purity and her absence of sin are the antidotes to evil in this world. Why should her example not be held up for us to emulate?

Back to the apparitions - it is possible, in fact, very likely, that a large number of these apparitions are either fake or demonic in nature - a trick of the enemy. This is why it is imperative that the faithful should treat any apparition that has not been investigated and approved by the Church. And the Church is very clear on this point.

Are you anti-Christian, or just anti-Catholic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37674349


I chose not to worship the words of a church or men, such as Catechism. A word which not found within the Bible. We are all born sinners, again an idea that you are not familiar with.

Woman relates to the feminine as Jesus is the groom within the bridal chamber, and we all are His bride if present within the chamber. We all our the bride of Christ. I don't expect any Pope, which you call leader and Holy Father, Cardinal, Bishop, or priest can accurately and truthful speak about the bridal chamber, and how it relates to the Holyest of Holies. If they could they would be without a job!

Once again Jesus is intercession and the only, please tell me where in the scriptures it says anything else?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This ^^
 Quoting: Fantasia II

Mary points to her Son, Jesus Christ as the one to go through to get to the Father. Show me where she dosn't and i'll show you an example of a false apparition. There are only a few approved apparitions ....the others are mostly satan trying to steel the show and confuse. These are the ones many use to try and discredit the true and approved ones with. Blessings.

I do not take any of this diss-ing personal so ask away about any questions. Soon the Holy Sprit is coming and all will become very clear. ;)
 Quoting: Angel Helper


There is more to discuss then the apparition of Mary. For instance, the Catholic Church changed the second commandment of God, and replaced it by breaking one into two. We all know what happens from what is revealed within the word of God by doing this.

Secondly, as a follower how can you explain worshipping and bowing down to graven images when it is clearly states numerous times within Gods words not to do this?

Thirdly, given that the sabbath was changed by the Pagan Constantine on March 7th, 0321 AD how can you legimately present an argument based on the words of God, and not the false lies of your church?

You cannot answer any of these because the fact is you worship a church which fails in all aspects based on the words of God that are found in the scriptures. Catholics worship an institution that has broken all the sacred commandments, and catholics worship Christ over God, which is a false God, and the anit-Christ at that.

All it takes is a little ounce of honesty with yourself, and ten minutes to pick up the book and read the words of God. Nothing more and nothing less. There is no argument towards the truth that are found within the lies that The Whore has produced.

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The same one all christians know his name by, Jesus Christ. I am not going to spoon feed the truth to you, you do your own research as I can see you are SPLITTING HAIRS NOW but the more you persecute me the more Grace our Lord and Savior sends. So be it.
 Quoting: Angel Helper

LOL!! I am PERSECUTING you? haha, oooooooooookay.

well we all know the Son's name is not really "jesus"......but nevertheless, you completely dismissed and disregarded the Father.......so what is the Father's name?
 Quoting: Shamar


Oh let me guess according to you Jesus was a good jewish rabbi?

chuckle

I think he would find that very amusing indeed..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39221466


Why would he find that amusing? He was Hebrew, an Israelite of the tribe of Judah.....so yes he was "jewish." And he was referred to as "rabbi" The title Rabbi is used 12 times in connection with Jesus, and means "Teacher".

Mark 9:5 and Mark 11:21 by Peter
John 1:38 by two disciples of John the Baptizer
John 1:49 by Nathanael
John 3:2 by Nicodemus
John 6:25 by the crowds
John 4:31; 9:2; 11:8 by disciples not specified
Matthew 26:25, 49; Mark 14:45 by Judas

John 20:16; Mark 10:51 he is called "Rabboni" (My Teacher) by Mary Magdalene and by a blind man whom he healed. [link to wiki.answers.com]

So what is your point? And what does that have to do with the Father's name?
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You mean Rabboni
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Rabboni is Teacher/Master..it is NOT Rabbi
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As to Him being "jewish" tell me..was he "jewish" before incarnating and after resureccting?

because He IS..Intemporal and existed before being born in the flsh and after Resurecting froim the dead
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
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what is the meaning of the Protestant meaning of "Born Again."
There is no "water" in their new definition. They don't
want to follow Christ. In John 3, water is a part of
Baptism. If you read further in John 3, I think verse
22, Jesus and the Apostles went out and "baptized."

Why cant you see how you are being used to spread confusion about the scriptures. For example the above statement can be used to demonstrate a bible verse about baptism.

One has to be born of the spirit,but water is the vessel to distribute this Spirit- Saving sacrament. Yet, protestants do not stress the need of Water to be "born again".
 Quoting: Angel Helper


You know i really dont care what any man definition of being born again entails. Stop tryng to lay blame, when the blame at judgment day will fall within your hands and your hands alone.

The real definition can be found in the bridal chamber where Jesus awaits all of us, but the institution that you so blindly follow has convinced all their sheep and prepped them all for slaughter.

The bridal chamber is where we all are born again, after we are baptized, but it takes a commitment to live as Jesus did. Honor the laws that he obeyed, and followed. Honor His Father by being meek and always bringing Glory back to His Father.

We all can be saved by baptism and by obeying the commandments. Being born again is something so much more special and meanful then your pathetic Church can ever offer. Becoming an actual BRIDE OF CHRIST.

We are born again by becoming the BRIDE OF CHRIST, not the worshipper of a CHURCH
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
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Ever heard of corporativism?

Wouldnt they have dealt with the matter themselves? then again..what matter if according to you he was a good jewish rabbi that followed Mosaic Law?
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LOL!! I am PERSECUTING you? haha, oooooooooookay.

well we all know the Son's name is not really "jesus"......but nevertheless, you completely dismissed and disregarded the Father.......so what is the Father's name?
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Oh let me guess according to you Jesus was a good jewish rabbi?

chuckle

I think he would find that very amusing indeed..
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Why would he find that amusing? He was Hebrew, an Israelite of the tribe of Judah.....so yes he was "jewish." And he was referred to as "rabbi" The title Rabbi is used 12 times in connection with Jesus, and means "Teacher".

Mark 9:5 and Mark 11:21 by Peter
John 1:38 by two disciples of John the Baptizer
John 1:49 by Nathanael
John 3:2 by Nicodemus
John 6:25 by the crowds
John 4:31; 9:2; 11:8 by disciples not specified
Matthew 26:25, 49; Mark 14:45 by Judas

John 20:16; Mark 10:51 he is called "Rabboni" (My Teacher) by Mary Magdalene and by a blind man whom he healed. [link to wiki.answers.com]

So what is your point? And what does that have to do with the Father's name?
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You mean Rabboni
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rhabbi
1) my great one, my honourable sir
2) Rabbi, a title used by the Jews to address their teachers (and also honour them when not addressing them)
rab•bi
/ˈrabˌī/
Noun
1. A Jewish scholar or teacher, esp. one who studies or teaches Jewish law.
2. A person appointed as a Jewish religious leader.


Synonyms
rabbin



Rhabbouni
1) master, chief, prince
2) Rabboni is a title of honour Mary used to address Jesus
Jesus 2424 saith 3004 unto her 846, Mary 3137. She 1565 turned 4762 herself, and saith 3004 unto him 846, Rabboni 4462; which 3739 is to say 3004, Master 1320.

He was addressed as both: Rabboni by Mary, and as Rabbi the rest of the places...see below link for references.

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
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Re: The Apparition of Mary, "Queen of Heaven"
Yet He was handed over to gentile authorities..Roman to boot..judged next to a common criminal

condemned..


beaten..mocked..spat on

stripped..nailed to a cross

laughed at

crowned with thorns

taken down in a hurry and not even afforded the decent burial rites according to the then religion of that area?

A jewish rabbi?

are you serious?
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
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Once again stop dodging questions like a rabbit. Answer how your church doesn't follow the word of God? Why has the church removed the second commandment? Why does your church allow idolatry?

But you Catholics are just like your leaders, dodging questions, escaping, and what is best penetrating holes. That is what your leadership does best they penetrate holes.

God and Jesus are so utterly disgusted with YOUR CHURCH

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As to Him being "jewish" tell me..was he "jewish" before incarnating and after resureccting?

because He IS..Intemporal and existed before being born in the flsh and after Resurecting froim the dead
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You have to have an understanding of who Israel is as the "firstborn son" of God..... (Exodus 4:22) and how Jesus *relates* Himself to Israel..........both are referred to as the "vine."
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