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TryToGetTheTruth
User ID: 31445862 Canada 07/01/2013 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The traitors are sitting in the Capitol. They are providing enemies (al qaeda, taliban) with weapons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42628674 Look at all the Dead Americans murdered by their own government for whistle blowing? Michael Hastings ? Terrible Americans! Perhaps the Free World should start supplying weapons and logistics to US citizens to fight their Evil Regime? Yep,the new 'yes we can'... "If you see something, say something" Unless it is being done by the government, then you better STFU Open mind required ! I am in SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO, CANADA |
m&m's
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42602057 Hong Kong 07/01/2013 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody blames the Americans! ;-) Quoting: Niemand I know the Americans are in the absolute majority good and hard working people, enjoying life as we do here... . . . And all Americans, which basically says "Who cares?", no problem - continue to live in your nutshell. Exactly what they expect from you! The America Sheeple got what THEY deserve ! Both those of us who are awake and saw through the Non-choice of Rombama, are very dissatisfied, and think it is a great unjustice that we are stuck with this sort of poor leadership YET AGAIN. Some of us voted for Ron Paul, and saw our votes ignored, and our candidate disrespected by corporate controlled Media, and rented politicians. We are angry, and want those who are waking up now, to admit they were wrong, and start taking actions to make amends for their idiotic complacency. If it means heaping abuse and ridicule on the dumb sheeple, then so be it. But let's quickly move towards something more productive. There's a useful discussion you can join here: Thread: How do we channel the rising anger against Washington ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42604784 United States 07/01/2013 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored. Quoting: Niemand Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems. [link to www.nytimes.com] Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe [link to www.spiegel.de] Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe [link to www.spiegel.de] Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations [link to www.spiegel.de] Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying [link to www.spiegel.de] Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain [link to translate.google.de] It's always been the same story... Socialists, Marxists, Communists, libtards, progressives... They all have to learn... THE HARD WAY. |
Niemand
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ISLANDIA
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m&m's
User ID: 28219729 United States 07/01/2013 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh wait, the USA exports all the weapons to terrorists like Syria ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106 Pity that shiny container ship in the Indian Ocean just split in half like that all of a sudden. Shame bro. i hope that ship had those containers and that they are forever lost. God will NOT be mocked by this allah shit! |
Niemand
(OP) User ID: 42628463 Germany 07/01/2013 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The traitors are sitting in the Capitol. They are providing enemies (al qaeda, taliban) with weapons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42628674 Look at all the Dead Americans murdered by their own government for whistle blowing? Michael Hastings ? Terrible Americans! Perhaps the Free World should start supplying weapons and logistics to US citizens to fight their Evil Regime? Yep,the new 'yes we can'... "If you see something, say something" Unless it is being done by the government, then you better STFU When I heard "If you see something, say something" for the first time, shivers run down my spine. The Stasi would not have been able to formulate that phrase better. Niemand |
m&m's
User ID: 28219729 United States 07/01/2013 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i do not like the current gun laws in germany tho...means i can not bring my arms. that's not cool. Quoting: m&m's No, you can only have weapons, if you're in a kind of sport shooting club. ;-) right, but as i understand the law i cannot take my weapons over there. hmmm...maybe if i did citizenship first, joined a rod and gun club, and then came over. lots of things are uncertain future wise for me, so i am weighing options...and risks. thx for the reply - i will reinvestigate should germany become an option. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483106 New Zealand 07/01/2013 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just be grateful that people are free to say it! I like all people whom are racists - for they speak their minds and respect their own cultures, and others! Trust no person that isn't! So the best outcome here is how to help people in America bring their own government to account for its war crimes and genocide? Because the way I see it - the next genocide will be the US government against its own people. So Americans - after you've treated the rest of the world - would they save you? Or put you all down as the mad dogs that you really are? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483106 New Zealand 07/01/2013 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i do not like the current gun laws in germany tho...means i can not bring my arms. that's not cool. Quoting: m&m's No, you can only have weapons, if you're in a kind of sport shooting club. ;-) right, but as i understand the law i cannot take my weapons over there. hmmm...maybe if i did citizenship first, joined a rod and gun club, and then came over. lots of things are uncertain future wise for me, so i am weighing options...and risks. thx for the reply - i will reinvestigate should germany become an option. Germany is full of guns ... chocka! There are no serious problems sourcing weapons in Germany. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37780293 Malta 07/01/2013 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !:Odickhead: Quoting: brassbat Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been. |
beeches
User ID: 28167778 United States 07/01/2013 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad, glad, glad that this is really happening. Yup, just sad it did not happen sooner for the American electorate - then we might have avoided him entirely, or be reading about a different president now. one who is not evil. Now that is a word I do not use often, but that is what that particular human being is.......and he fooled so many so long. Last Edited by beeches on 07/01/2013 07:44 AM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Menosgada
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m&m's
User ID: 28219729 United States 07/01/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just be grateful that people are free to say it! I like all people whom are racists - for they speak their minds and respect their own cultures, and others! Trust no person that isn't! So the best outcome here is how to help people in America bring their own government to account for its war crimes and genocide? Because the way I see it - the next genocide will be the US government against its own people. So Americans - after you've treated the rest of the world - would they save you? Or put you all down as the mad dogs that you really are? muslims deserve to die. also, ron paul is a joke . his son is better, bu wtf up with that homo couple adoption shit. here's hoping mark levin and sarah palin create a new party, since the Taxed Enough Already (TEA) party brought us the sham that is rubio. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483106 New Zealand 07/01/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !:Odickhead: Quoting: brassbat Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been. They were racists, and idolised him because he was half Jewish and half Kenyan! Political correctness is power mind control weapon against the population. |
bigsmidsy
User ID: 29753283 United Kingdom 07/01/2013 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored. Quoting: Niemand Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems. [link to www.nytimes.com] Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe [link to www.spiegel.de] Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe [link to www.spiegel.de] Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations [link to www.spiegel.de] Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying [link to www.spiegel.de] Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain [link to translate.google.de] First of all, excellent post!! The way I see it all the U.S.'s European partners were quite happy helping the NSA with gathering information and obviously benefiting from it. Now they know that they were also targets and not receiving all the info the NSA had they are upset! Seems quite ironic and two faced to me. Is Germany a major target because its the European economic powerhouse and many new laws/directives originate from there? Also on the uk point, if GCHQ cannot spy on its citizens and the NSA as they say don't do it then who does? As in all countries there are people who are a risk to national security so someone must be listening! The last three sentences may be obvious, I just don't get it so I apologise beforehand, but if someone can clear it up for me please? |
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Niemand
(OP) User ID: 42628463 Germany 07/01/2013 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term ! Quoting: brassbat Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been. Because the Germans did not like President Bush, they had huge hopes that a liberal, even black, president will bring only improvement. The majority of Americans thought that too, otherwise they would not have voted for him (twice). Now the masses wake up and see that the emporer has no cloth on. Niemand |
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Spiritmyst
User ID: 41368120 United States 07/01/2013 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term ! Quoting: brassbat Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been. My husband and I felt the same way. Brainwashed by a toddler's tv show slogan "Yes we can!" from Bob the Builder. It was completely surreal. I think a lot of the hypnotized masses have awakened, however. In his last campaign he couldn't even get enough people to come to his speeches to fill up a small lecture hall. "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves, did gyre and gimble in the wabe: all mimsey were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe." |
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bigsmidsy
User ID: 29753283 United Kingdom 07/01/2013 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored. Quoting: Niemand Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems. [link to www.nytimes.com] Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe [link to www.spiegel.de] Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe [link to www.spiegel.de] Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations [link to www.spiegel.de] Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying [link to www.spiegel.de] Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain [link to translate.google.de] It's always been the same story... Socialists, Marxists, Communists, libtards, progressives... They all have to learn... THE HARD WAY. Forgot to put in my last reply, it's so refreshing that in this post we are all supporting each other instead of firing off insults and before anyone says it, yes I have brushed my teeth today, both of them!! :-) |
m&m's
User ID: 28219729 United States 07/01/2013 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term ! Quoting: brassbat Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been. My husband and I felt the same way. Brainwashed by a toddler's tv show slogan "Yes we can!" from Bob the Builder. It was completely surreal. I think a lot of the hypnotized masses have awakened, however. In his last campaign he couldn't even get enough people to come to his speeches to fill up a small lecture hall. which is why it is so obvious this election was a sham. totally stolen. romney really won. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1483106 New Zealand 07/01/2013 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amerikan. We are still deciding the fate of your country: Chose between: Nuke Strike, Plague, Fiscal Collapse, Obama for Life President, Oil in Euros and Roubles, Civil War or Starvation. Combinations always accepted. Oh, and you are all driving on the the wrong side of the road, pronounce Aluminium wrong, still use outdated Imperial units, and your temperatures are just gay. Degrees are in Celsius! |
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Niemand
(OP) User ID: 42628463 Germany 07/01/2013 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forgot to put in my last reply, it's so refreshing that in this post we are all supporting each other instead of firing off insults and before anyone says it, yes I have brushed my teeth today, both of them!! :-) Quoting: bigsmidsy Yes, who if not us here, who look a little deeper, should keep together? In the 'Brave New World' we are all the same! And this is not communism. Niemand |
AnathemaTNO
User ID: 28713163 United States 07/01/2013 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amerikan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106 We are still deciding the fate of your country: Chose between: Nuke Strike, Plague, Fiscal Collapse, Obama for Life President, Oil in Euros and Roubles, Civil War or Starvation. Combinations always accepted. Oh, and you are all driving on the the wrong side of the road, pronounce Aluminium wrong, still use outdated Imperial units, and your temperatures are just gay. Degrees are in Celsius! I'll admit, this make me laugh. Out loud. ~Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity~ |