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WE ARE I.T. - are computer programmers destined to become the "Elite"?

 
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WE ARE I.T. - are computer programmers destined to become the "Elite"?
First a disclaimer - I am one, a computer programmer. And it seems that in the time I have been in this profession, we have become more and more highly valued. Even in the worst of economic times, I have never had trouble finding a job.

This, along with a slightly over-active imagination and some wishful thinking has caused me to wonder if, in the not-too-distant future, computer programmers might be like the rock stars and pro athletes of today? Here in the US, the shortage of qualified programmers is only expected to worsen, while the demand for and reliance upon software and web programming continues to escalate.

Now of course, this will all be moot if there is some catastrophic, technology killing event, like another Carrington Event, EMP attack, or something of the like.

But saying something like that doesn't happen - is there a chance that, in time, people like me - the nerds who have been hidden away in cubes like hermits and kept from public view - will be part of a new class of "elite," as all those who depend upon the bits and bytes for their livelihoods turn to us to keep their constructs alive?

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Well....? Anyone have any opinions about this? Will "The Matrix" need people to maintain itself?
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Personally.....the world was a better place before you guys showed up. Things went along just fine without the computer wrapping its electronic Boa Constrictor body around our minds and throats.
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Personally.....the world was a better place before you guys showed up. Things went along just fine without the computer wrapping its electronic Boa Constrictor body around our minds and throats.
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Are you that dense? Yeah, who needs things like modern medicine.. damn technology.

But seriously. Wall-Street is already run by computers, those who have the most knowledge of computers and programming will have all of the money in the future.
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How do you really get started in this field?

I had a engineering degree.. was in construction, hated it. Picked up a quick associates in programming/analyst but finished it when the market was at the worst.

I was told that so many fresh I.T programmers where flooding the market that entry level jobs where scarce.. the next level or experienced group where the ones like you.. always able to find jobs easy.. in any economic situation.

well a couple years have gone by now and I'm thinking getting back in to it now.. any advice? i interview horribly btw and as far as IT background all i have is the associates degree but I took a lot of web development classes.

C#, VB, Javascript, ASP.NET, SQL and b/c i had the time i took many web designer type classes but learned i was not very good at graphics.
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Well, I am a web developer(C#+ASP.NET, classic ASP, PHP, Ruby and Java), communication specialist(Web services, web protocols and communication protocols), also developer in C++, C, Assembler and Lisp. Despite all that, I don't consider myself "elite", and I think I never will.
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Rockstar, lol. You need to be comfortable in a space that isn't a cubicle and learn to interact with humans.
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Rockstar, lol. You need to be comfortable in a space that isn't a cubicle and learn to interact with humans.
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The rockstars of the future will be cgi. Created by a programmer.
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Heeeeeyyy - is that even legal...?

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How do you really get started in this field?

I had a engineering degree.. was in construction, hated it. Picked up a quick associates in programming/analyst but finished it when the market was at the worst.

I was told that so many fresh I.T programmers where flooding the market that entry level jobs where scarce.. the next level or experienced group where the ones like you.. always able to find jobs easy.. in any economic situation.

well a couple years have gone by now and I'm thinking getting back in to it now.. any advice? i interview horribly btw and as far as IT background all i have is the associates degree but I took a lot of web development classes.

C#, VB, Javascript, ASP.NET, SQL and b/c i had the time i took many web designer type classes but learned i was not very good at graphics.
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I went to school myself, DeVry University, and got a degree in CIS (computer information systems). I'm not sure about the "market being flooded," not even with entry level workers - at least not here in Phoenix, AZ where I am.

I would suggest that if you want to get into it, maybe see if you can't apply some of the credits you got for your AA to a bachelor's degree in some kind of development...? Tough to get anything in the field without a bachelor's these days :/

Best of luck.

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No.
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No.
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You might be kept alive though.

But elite? What is elite about it?
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Well, I am a web developer(C#+ASP.NET, classic ASP, PHP, Ruby and Java), communication specialist(Web services, web protocols and communication protocols), also developer in C++, C, Assembler and Lisp. Despite all that, I don't consider myself "elite", and I think I never will.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU



I'm not necessarily saying that we will see ourselves, or even been seen as being "elite" - maybe the real word I was looking for was "indispensable"...?

Ok, fill disclosure - I see a Matrix-style world where AI has taken over, but doesn't (for whatever reason) have the full capacity to maintain its own codebase, so we programmers become like "the chosen ones" of the robotic overlords, highly valued, watched over and protected - oh, and showered with wealth and privilege too, of course.

Did I just say all that? Doh!

buckwheat_uhoh


LOL!
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you are destined to become new proletariat
or better say, proletariat is destined to become pathetic nerds
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Personally.....the world was a better place before you guys showed up. Things went along just fine without the computer wrapping its electronic Boa Constrictor body around our minds and throats.
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Are you that dense? Yeah, who needs things like modern medicine.. damn technology.

But seriously. Wall-Street is already run by computers, those who have the most knowledge of computers and programming will have all of the money in the future.
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modern medicine was around way before any computer programming language was u fucking tool
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Re: WE ARE I.T. - are computer programmers destined to become the "Elite"?
First a disclaimer - I am one, a computer programmer. And it seems that in the time I have been in this profession, we have become more and more highly valued. Even in the worst of economic times, I have never had trouble finding a job.

This, along with a slightly over-active imagination and some wishful thinking has caused me to wonder if, in the not-too-distant future, computer programmers might be like the rock stars and pro athletes of today? Here in the US, the shortage of qualified programmers is only expected to worsen, while the demand for and reliance upon software and web programming continues to escalate.

Now of course, this will all be moot if there is some catastrophic, technology killing event, like another Carrington Event, EMP attack, or something of the like.

But saying something like that doesn't happen - is there a chance that, in time, people like me - the nerds who have been hidden away in cubes like hermits and kept from public view - will be part of a new class of "elite," as all those who depend upon the bits and bytes for their livelihoods turn to us to keep their constructs alive?

scratching
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Hell you guys can't even troubleshoot a broken mouse.

You will be the bitches of the true elite - network and server guys :)

Your spot will be right below the semi-bithes called the help desk monkeys.
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Well, I am a web developer(C#+ASP.NET, classic ASP, PHP, Ruby and Java), communication specialist(Web services, web protocols and communication protocols), also developer in C++, C, Assembler and Lisp. Despite all that, I don't consider myself "elite", and I think I never will.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU



I'm not necessarily saying that we will see ourselves, or even been seen as being "elite" - maybe the real word I was looking for was "indispensable"...?

Ok, fill disclosure - I see a Matrix-style world where AI has taken over, but doesn't (for whatever reason) have the full capacity to maintain its own codebase, so we programmers become like "the chosen ones" of the robotic overlords, highly valued, watched over and protected - oh, and showered with wealth and privilege too, of course.

Did I just say all that? Doh!

buckwheat_uhoh


LOL!
 Quoting: QuantumKev


Looking from this perspective, don't worry, it will NOT happen. With quantum processors, AI will be so advanced that even we will be disposable, the AI itself will make the necessary(if any) programming into the machines.
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First a disclaimer - I am one, a computer programmer. And it seems that in the time I have been in this profession, we have become more and more highly valued. Even in the worst of economic times, I have never had trouble finding a job.

This, along with a slightly over-active imagination and some wishful thinking has caused me to wonder if, in the not-too-distant future, computer programmers might be like the rock stars and pro athletes of today? Here in the US, the shortage of qualified programmers is only expected to worsen, while the demand for and reliance upon software and web programming continues to escalate.

Now of course, this will all be moot if there is some catastrophic, technology killing event, like another Carrington Event, EMP attack, or something of the like.

But saying something like that doesn't happen - is there a chance that, in time, people like me - the nerds who have been hidden away in cubes like hermits and kept from public view - will be part of a new class of "elite," as all those who depend upon the bits and bytes for their livelihoods turn to us to keep their constructs alive?

scratching
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Hell you guys can't even troubleshoot a broken mouse.

You will be the bitches of the true elite - network and server guys :)

Your spot will be right below the semi-bithes called the help desk monkeys.
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IT flame war - yes!!!

no_you_diint

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BIC lighters will put an end to the IT.
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could you write me a program where i think iam am on a riverbed fishing while pam anderson gives me head for 8 hrs while iam at work ???
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Well, I am a web developer(C#+ASP.NET, classic ASP, PHP, Ruby and Java), communication specialist(Web services, web protocols and communication protocols), also developer in C++, C, Assembler and Lisp. Despite all that, I don't consider myself "elite", and I think I never will.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU



I'm not necessarily saying that we will see ourselves, or even been seen as being "elite" - maybe the real word I was looking for was "indispensable"...?

Ok, fill disclosure - I see a Matrix-style world where AI has taken over, but doesn't (for whatever reason) have the full capacity to maintain its own codebase, so we programmers become like "the chosen ones" of the robotic overlords, highly valued, watched over and protected - oh, and showered with wealth and privilege too, of course.

Did I just say all that? Doh!

:buckwheat_uhoh:


LOL!
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Well this just implies that the programmers will be key to the revolution, to the overthrowing of the totalitarian matrix. Hell, we may be there right now. C'mon programmers, do your duty to humanity! Delete the elite.
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Well, I am a web developer(C#+ASP.NET, classic ASP, PHP, Ruby and Java), communication specialist(Web services, web protocols and communication protocols), also developer in C++, C, Assembler and Lisp. Despite all that, I don't consider myself "elite", and I think I never will.
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I'm not necessarily saying that we will see ourselves, or even been seen as being "elite" - maybe the real word I was looking for was "indispensable"...?

Ok, fill disclosure - I see a Matrix-style world where AI has taken over, but doesn't (for whatever reason) have the full capacity to maintain its own codebase, so we programmers become like "the chosen ones" of the robotic overlords, highly valued, watched over and protected - oh, and showered with wealth and privilege too, of course.

Did I just say all that? Doh!

buckwheat_uhoh


LOL!
 Quoting: QuantumKev


Well this just implies that the programmers will be key to the revolution, to the overthrowing of the totalitarian matrix. Hell, we may be there right now. C'mon programmers, do your duty to humanity! Delete the elite.
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Keep an eye on the thread I'm writing about the antichrist and the quantum. In a couple days you're going to be astonished...
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Sure.

Until us plebes destroy their power supply.

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could you write me a program where i think iam am on a riverbed fishing while pam anderson gives me head for 8 hrs while iam at work ???
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That will require your weener to be hardwired to a USB port.
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It's a byproduct of modern society
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Re: WE ARE I.T. - are computer programmers destined to become the "Elite"?
Actually come to think of it - the most brilliant programming minds are working for Google and Facebook - what does this tell you?

If anything they are part of the current elite - the wrong side of it.
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Actually come to think of it - the most brilliant programming minds are working for Google and Facebook - what does this tell you?

If anything they are part of the current elite - the wrong side of it.
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The most brilliant minds I've ever heard about, are working with IBM and GE, regarding IT.
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wrong!

with kyoto protocol, the price of tech will skyrocket

low tech solutions will flood the market

you will go through a 10 year drought of need for programmers

you will die penniless

fact!
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could you write me a program where i think iam am on a riverbed fishing while pam anderson gives me head for 8 hrs while iam at work ???
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