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IS THERE A CLASS WAR?

 
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I need a timeline folks.....
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there are no "classes" in the USA .... we ain't like india people. good grief.

people can behave without "class," or "low class," or conversely "high class," but this does NOT correspond to their "breeding" / "pedigree" / "money" aka financial situation
 Quoting: m&m's


Talking about the "Economic Class System."

Social class in the United States is a controversial issue, having many competing definitions, models, and even disagreements over its very existence.[1] Many Americans believe in a simple three-class model that includes the "rich", the "middle class", and the "poor". More complex models that have been proposed describe as many as a dozen class levels;[2][3] while still others deny the very existence, in the European sense, of "social class" in American society.[4] Most definitions of class structure group people according to wealth, income, education, type of occupation, and membership in a specific subculture or social network.

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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Yes, but "War" implies someone is fighting back.
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I do not giving FREE STUFF to whom I CHOOSE to give it to. But when I have a government gun to my head, forcibly TAKING it and giving to freeloaders...boy that pisses me off.

I like to give...on my own terms!!!
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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Boy, did I get some haters with the red karma.

The reasons:

Calling people sheep tax
Race tard

They could have at least had the courage to leave their name. I'm not racist, never have been...but it's getting to the point where I am fed up and tired of being accused of something that I'm not. They are going to turn people into racists at this rate. Sometimes, I don't even know why I advocate for. It's been to the point of getting burnt out.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


If you're getting burnt out you're doing it wrong :)
This world is a total shithole on the ground but viewed from above it is a work of exquisite genius.
One of the most amazing things about this world are the incredibly attractive pitfalls that lie beside the road every step of the way.
One of those pitfalls is that we're here to fix the world. Search yourself and if you're honest you'll acknowledge that not only are you trying to fix the world - you actually think you can.

Another amazing aspect of the world - simple but most people ignore it. Suffering is meant to be avoided. But this doesn't mean you avoid suffering :) Suffering is the indication that you've got it wrong and need to change your approach.

Stop trying to fix the world :) There is only one being who can fix this world, and it is part of our arrogance that we think we can fix it better than they can. Sadly, probably the only way that being can fix it is to wipe the slate clean. That's how you clean your kitchen bench after all isn't it? No other way to clean a kitchen bench.

The best contribution you can make is to find that right place within yourself and sit there as much as you can. Why do you think tptb care so much about public opinion? Because after the Creator it's one of the most powerful forces on the planet. Each of us through our energetic actions can have an influence. But not through the normal channels. Anything that's "normal" feeds the monster. Instead you need to cultivate the high states of being - inner balance, strength, vitality.

Good luck! I think you can do it! Not much hope left for this world now, but it continues, so the Spirit still sees some. Though the Spirit would term it differently - after all hope was in Pandora's box :)
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Very interesting concept. I don't think I can fix the world, I just want to do my small part to help make a difference in this world. I don't know if that is even going to do any good.

I'm burnt out as I've put my heart and soul into advocating for those that have no voice, our prison system. I am concerned at the rate we have become the largest prison nation of the world. I know they have plans of locking more Americans up. Most Americans have no clue what is in store for us. I've been doing this for 2 years non-stop, and it has worn me down. I've had some successes, I've had some of my bills pass into laws. It will help some, but with the rate our world is in trouble, it seems meaningless.

Thank you for the encouragement. :)

hf
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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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All wars are bad....most wars are bankers wars.... the class war is one.

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The only thing i don't understand about a class war is where do the people who are struggling to find work and working 2 and 3 jobs to barely make ends meet fall on the producer or leech side of the line? They are flat broke by every definition of the rule. Yet are not dead beats by any means?

What about the people who have only 1 job they are fighting like hell to keep and still come up short so get some help like foodstamps based on their income.

Are they lumped in with people who are 100% on the system?

How can you tell them apart?

If they are treated the same as the free loaders then it is rich against poor. Not producers VS leeches.
 Quoting: interlocutor


So nobody wants to define where the line is?
Rich vs poor is not a war the rich can win. I know some of you are smart enough to realize that. So...what is it that separates the 2 classes that would go to war? $200,000 a year?
$150,000? Do you think if you go as low as $50,000 that they would follow you or tell you get bent?
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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The reason I have all these quotation boxes.

1.) You state that this is not a racial debate but in o.p. put a video up promoting that issue, then state its not me making it racial its blacks.

2.) In another quote you state its a racial class war but in another, I'm not pushing anything.

You seem to be double speaking to me. You are still helping to push the division propaganda. Be it race or class.

Its not the takers fault they get to be takers while a women on this thread only gets $20 in f.stamps. You need to be mad at the government. A.) Because they allow this and B.) They created the problem.

Not all the money going to those people comes from your paycheck. My dad just died. My mother and father paid into the system all their lives and retired receiving s.s. After his death my mom had to choose between hers or his even though it took both to survive. Where did all that money just go?

That's not my low income neighbors fault. That her husband decided after two children that he likes younger women. And so she cant get a lot of child support works a part time job. But that's right, lets put all this countries problems on the little people.

Studies are showing kids that have a college degree cant even get a job. Why, because our buisness sends jobs overseas. And then the cycle continues. Trying to make a buck anyway or relying on the system.

Wait I know its the Mexicans fault! They do the jobs most Americans are too lazy to do for crappy wages. If it wasn't for them your fresh produce would sky rocket. Because we would have to have health insurance, 401k plan and min.wage.

Get a grip and stop spreading this propaganda b.s. Know your enemy before its to late. Because the people causing this mess does not have your back. Our dollar is worthless and is going to crash. They are just busy playing pin the blame.


This website for whatever reason is trying to push for one

Divide and Conquer folks, exactly what the elites want...all of us fighting amongst each other while they run off with the loot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43600916


Just having discussion on what is going on. Not trying to promote anything.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


A lot of post here are trying to make this a race issue. That's bull-shit! It has nothing to do with race. It's about givers and takers. The problem is that King Barry and the rest of the progressives have convinced the takers that we owe it to them. I don't feel like I owe them shit! I work hard for my money, and I want to be able to keep it. I don't care what color your skin is, if you work for a living, we will get along just fine. If you take from others rather than working, you and I are gonna' have problems. I understand there are people thast can't work, but that is a very small part of the pie. The problem is the people that just want to sit around and have babies so we have to pay them. Welfare and unemployment were supposed to be a safety net, but now they pay enough to live compfortably. That needs to change.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Miscommunication here, it is about "givers and takers" but for some reason, racism is being thrown in there from blacks. In my opinion. I've heard and been involved in enough arguments where it feels like I have to apologize for being white. That we owe something.

And, what is sad, those that truly need help have a hard time getting assistance and those that don't really need help get it with ease. Ugh...
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


If serious shit erupts, I think we are far more likely to break around class (producer vs. leech) lines, than racial lines.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I don't know, sure seems like the racial tension is getting high.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan


This is just an average person speaking at a rally just a few days ago. It sounds pretty much like a "class war" and "race war" to me.

White People: "Check Your Privilege"


 Quoting: H0NEYBEE

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30546946


At the beginning if you follow the thread, another person and I were having a conversation where I shared that video. So, I decided to add it in the OP...yes, the video is there now. I'm not implanting something or promoting something that is not already out there in the open, in every day life. I'm just bringing the subject up asking what people think, thus the reason for the poll. The discussion between everyone so far has been very interesting and enlightening. It is what it is, I'm just giving honest answers from myself. Gaining awareness myself as the thread continues to grow. It gives everyone a chance to rant, or air out their feelings. I'm out here in this world just trying to survive like everyone else.
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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Yes, but "War" implies someone is fighting back.
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It's us and the government, the government are the ones dictating what we can and cannot do. Where our money will go or not go. The elitists are trying to cut out the middle class. We are merely pawns in their agenda.
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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Boy, did I get some haters with the red karma.

The reasons:

Calling people sheep tax
Race tard

They could have at least had the courage to leave their name. I'm not racist, never have been...but it's getting to the point where I am fed up and tired of being accused of something that I'm not. They are going to turn people into racists at this rate.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE



Won't let me add some green for you for some reason.

In all honesty, a lot people will bash whatever they do not understand or agree with.

I have mad respect for you though for posting this, regardless if people agree with it or not, it is a perspective many may/may not have. So for that, thank you.
 Quoting: Lightning Chakra


Aw, thank you. hf
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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I do not giving FREE STUFF to whom I CHOOSE to give it to. But when I have a government gun to my head, forcibly TAKING it and giving to freeloaders...boy that pisses me off.

I like to give...on my own terms!!!
 Quoting: Chuckie


clappa
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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So...what is it that separates the 2 classes that would go to war? $200,000 a year?
$150,000? Do you think if you go as low as $50,000 that they would follow you or tell you get bent?
 Quoting: interlocutor

Same situation in NZ where historically "Jack is as good as his master", a local saying.
So why exactly does Jack have a master? mmmmmmm?
Here's the facts
Wealth Inequality in America [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Inequality in America: The 1% in International and Historical Perspective
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.dailyfinance.com]
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OP

I would recognize your shoulders anywhere!

Peace be with you

hf

PS - nice wig lol

cool2
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You must have me mistaken with someone else, perhaps?

I don't wear wigs.

u2efine
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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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I would recognize your shoulders anywhere!

Peace be with you

hf

PS - nice wig lol

cool2
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You must have me mistaken with someone else, perhaps?

I don't wear wigs.

u2efine
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


A honest mistake

hf
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


It's all good!

cheers
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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Wouldn't call it a "war" myself. Regardless of your class position you're still apathetic. That goes for the rich and poor alike as far as I can see. People of all classes grumble and gripe and complain but that's about it. Impotent whining from all sides. This is why nothing will change and it's also why there is no class "war".
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The reason I have all these quotation boxes.

1.) You state that this is not a racial debate but in o.p. put a video up promoting that issue, then state its not me making it racial its blacks.

2.) In another quote you state its a racial class war but in another, I'm not pushing anything.

You seem to be double speaking to me. You are still helping to push the division propaganda. Be it race or class.

Its not the takers fault they get to be takers while a women on this thread only gets $20 in f.stamps. You need to be mad at the government. A.) Because they allow this and B.) They created the problem.

Not all the money going to those people comes from your paycheck. My dad just died. My mother and father paid into the system all their lives and retired receiving s.s. After his death my mom had to choose between hers or his even though it took both to survive. Where did all that money just go?

That's not my low income neighbors fault. That her husband decided after two children that he likes younger women. And so she cant get a lot of child support works a part time job. But that's right, lets put all this countries problems on the little people.

Studies are showing kids that have a college degree cant even get a job. Why, because our buisness sends jobs overseas. And then the cycle continues. Trying to make a buck anyway or relying on the system.

Wait I know its the Mexicans fault! They do the jobs most Americans are too lazy to do for crappy wages. If it wasn't for them your fresh produce would sky rocket. Because we would have to have health insurance, 401k plan and min.wage.

Get a grip and stop spreading this propaganda b.s. Know your enemy before its to late. Because the people causing this mess does not have your back. Our dollar is worthless and is going to crash. They are just busy playing pin the blame.


This website for whatever reason is trying to push for one

Divide and Conquer folks, exactly what the elites want...all of us fighting amongst each other while they run off with the loot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43600916


Just having discussion on what is going on. Not trying to promote anything.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


A lot of post here are trying to make this a race issue. That's bull-shit! It has nothing to do with race. It's about givers and takers. The problem is that King Barry and the rest of the progressives have convinced the takers that we owe it to them. I don't feel like I owe them shit! I work hard for my money, and I want to be able to keep it. I don't care what color your skin is, if you work for a living, we will get along just fine. If you take from others rather than working, you and I are gonna' have problems. I understand there are people thast can't work, but that is a very small part of the pie. The problem is the people that just want to sit around and have babies so we have to pay them. Welfare and unemployment were supposed to be a safety net, but now they pay enough to live compfortably. That needs to change.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Miscommunication here, it is about "givers and takers" but for some reason, racism is being thrown in there from blacks. In my opinion. I've heard and been involved in enough arguments where it feels like I have to apologize for being white. That we owe something.

And, what is sad, those that truly need help have a hard time getting assistance and those that don't really need help get it with ease. Ugh...
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


If serious shit erupts, I think we are far more likely to break around class (producer vs. leech) lines, than racial lines.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I don't know, sure seems like the racial tension is getting high.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan


This is just an average person speaking at a rally just a few days ago. It sounds pretty much like a "class war" and "race war" to me.

White People: "Check Your Privilege"


 Quoting: H0NEYBEE

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30546946


umad
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The overwhelming majority of the "free stuff" is going to corporations and the military-industrial complex. Blue collars like to blame the poor and disabled for everything even though the services that go to them are a pittance, but they are the only people "below" the blue collars that they can look down upon and feel empowered in doing so.
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Liberalism gone wild: St. Louis "human relations commissioner" accuses grocery store of racism for selling dry asparagus.

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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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The reason I have all these quotation boxes.

1.) You state that this is not a racial debate but in o.p. put a video up promoting that issue, then state its not me making it racial its blacks.

2.) In another quote you state its a racial class war but in another, I'm not pushing anything.

You seem to be double speaking to me. You are still helping to push the division propaganda. Be it race or class.

Its not the takers fault they get to be takers while a women on this thread only gets $20 in f.stamps. You need to be mad at the government. A.) Because they allow this and B.) They created the problem.

Not all the money going to those people comes from your paycheck. My dad just died. My mother and father paid into the system all their lives and retired receiving s.s. After his death my mom had to choose between hers or his even though it took both to survive. Where did all that money just go?

That's not my low income neighbors fault. That her husband decided after two children that he likes younger women. And so she cant get a lot of child support works a part time job. But that's right, lets put all this countries problems on the little people.

Studies are showing kids that have a college degree cant even get a job. Why, because our buisness sends jobs overseas. And then the cycle continues. Trying to make a buck anyway or relying on the system.

Wait I know its the Mexicans fault! They do the jobs most Americans are too lazy to do for crappy wages. If it wasn't for them your fresh produce would sky rocket. Because we would have to have health insurance, 401k plan and min.wage.

Get a grip and stop spreading this propaganda b.s. Know your enemy before its to late. Because the people causing this mess does not have your back. Our dollar is worthless and is going to crash. They are just busy playing pin the blame.


This website for whatever reason is trying to push for one

Divide and Conquer folks, exactly what the elites want...all of us fighting amongst each other while they run off with the loot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43600916


Just having discussion on what is going on. Not trying to promote anything.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


A lot of post here are trying to make this a race issue. That's bull-shit! It has nothing to do with race. It's about givers and takers. The problem is that King Barry and the rest of the progressives have convinced the takers that we owe it to them. I don't feel like I owe them shit! I work hard for my money, and I want to be able to keep it. I don't care what color your skin is, if you work for a living, we will get along just fine. If you take from others rather than working, you and I are gonna' have problems. I understand there are people thast can't work, but that is a very small part of the pie. The problem is the people that just want to sit around and have babies so we have to pay them. Welfare and unemployment were supposed to be a safety net, but now they pay enough to live compfortably. That needs to change.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Miscommunication here, it is about "givers and takers" but for some reason, racism is being thrown in there from blacks. In my opinion. I've heard and been involved in enough arguments where it feels like I have to apologize for being white. That we owe something.

And, what is sad, those that truly need help have a hard time getting assistance and those that don't really need help get it with ease. Ugh...
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


If serious shit erupts, I think we are far more likely to break around class (producer vs. leech) lines, than racial lines.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I don't know, sure seems like the racial tension is getting high.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan


This is just an average person speaking at a rally just a few days ago. It sounds pretty much like a "class war" and "race war" to me.

White People: "Check Your Privilege"


 Quoting: H0NEYBEE

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30546946


umad
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


1rof1
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Liberalism gone wild: St. Louis "human relations commissioner" accuses grocery store of racism for selling dry asparagus.

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wtf
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


lol!!! No asparagus! No peas!

JUSTICE FOR ASPARAGUS!
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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Liberalism gone wild: St. Louis "human relations commissioner" accuses grocery store of racism for selling dry asparagus.

[link to www.examiner.com]


wtf
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


lol!!! No asparagus! No peas!

JUSTICE FOR ASPARAGUS!
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headbang
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We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
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So...what is it that separates the 2 classes that would go to war? $200,000 a year?
$150,000? Do you think if you go as low as $50,000 that they would follow you or tell you get bent?
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Same situation in NZ where historically "Jack is as good as his master", a local saying.
So why exactly does Jack have a master? mmmmmmm?
Here's the facts
Wealth Inequality in America [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Inequality in America: The 1% in International and Historical Perspective
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.dailyfinance.com]
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Jack used to be his masters apprentice. He learned his masters trade and then be was the master. If jack was retarded he couldn't be master but he could work for the new master whenbold master retired.

When everyone is an employee and all jobs are dead end its different.
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Yes... it is between 2 groups ... those that have class and those that do not.
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^ ^ ^ ^ T H I S ^ ^ ^ ^
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The overwhelming majority of the "free stuff" is going to corporations and the military-industrial complex. Blue collars like to blame the poor and disabled for everything even though the services that go to them are a pittance, but they are the only people "below" the blue collars that they can look down upon and feel empowered in doing so.
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Blue collar workers can be skilled people. The ones who need to feel empowered by bashing the welfare recipients have the fast food and retail jobs, waitstaff and cashier.

A pharmacist used to be a professional who was treated like a professional. Now they have to ring up your groceries and toiletries at walgreens. Sisters used to be quite impressive. The cooking school kids still are, but chains also hire kids who must never have been fed at a table for all they know. Grocers used to be unionised. Butchers knew chicken anatoy. The produce guy knew produce. No more.

So a lot has changed. Skilled labor isn't so skilled. But let's say an auto mechanic is a blue collar guy. The oil change guy at the chain place is service industry. The kid selling auto parts retail is more clearly service industry.

Weve seen this slide of skilled labor into service jobs. The few blue collar guus surviving are the good workers and managers in a good industry in a good market.
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I agree there is a class war, but what the fuck is "free stuff"?
You sound like a sheep worse than anyone ive ever seen.
Money you realize is fake right?
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I need a timeline folks.....
 Quoting: justice4all


Timeline is, OP is a sheep/shill who plays into the is stuff free or not thing.
Nothing is free one has to trade or work for what it gets, other than steal it.
But monetary value of anything is fake beyond belief.
OP probably has a cushy over paid under worked public service job and think they are not actually on the dole.
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I agree there is a class war, but what the fuck is "free stuff"?
You sound like a sheep worse than anyone ive ever seen.
Money you realize is fake right?
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I need a timeline folks.....
 Quoting: justice4all


Timeline is, OP is a sheep/shill who plays into the is stuff free or not thing.
Nothing is free one has to trade or work for what it gets, other than steal it.
But monetary value of anything is fake beyond belief.
OP probably has a cushy over paid under worked public service job and think they are not actually on the dole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43133771


Hahahahahahahahaha. I've heard it all now. Thank you for my laugh for today. 1rof1

I do not work for a public service job, I don't have any cushy job. You must be bored trolling, to be an AC in Australia talking smack about our discussion here in America. Although this is an issue that is a problem worldwide. Just because I didn't talk about our "monopoly money" does not make it that I believe it is real. We are spending money that we do not even have. Which is going to cause the biggest collapse we have ever seen. You can't give out fake money without one day having to "pay the piper." There are people that are receiving "welfare" that are not working, not looking for work, and not providing any trade or service. Those that are in need do deserve to have help. Those that are just being used to help destroy our country, do not need it.

I have shared many times on here what I do and what I am involved in. What do you do, besides trolling?

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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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Wouldn't call it a "war" myself. Regardless of your class position you're still apathetic. That goes for the rich and poor alike as far as I can see. People of all classes grumble and gripe and complain but that's about it. Impotent whining from all sides. This is why nothing will change and it's also why there is no class "war".
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I hope people are starting to open their eyes on what is going on in the world around them. It takes more than a handful to bring changes. I agree...it's not really "war"...it's a major problem. More people are fed up now than there ever has been.
Our country is $17 trillion in debt. THAT is a problem. We cannot continue this way, future generations are already enslaved in having to pay into the system to pay on the interest alone. Yet, we are still giving out money that we do not have.
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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I would give this topic one star but the idiots of the world already gave it five so it's pointless.
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I would give this topic one star but the idiots of the world already gave it five so it's pointless.
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Sorry that you feel that way, but you do have a right to your own opinion and I respect that.
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.





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