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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28558316 United States 09/25/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help me understand.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28084171 The republicans can shut down the government at this point? That's alot of power? Am I right? I'm trying to understand... Both parties are on the same corporate team. Nothing will be shut down. The agenda continues and we, divided and conquered, keep pulling at each others' faces over social non-issues. It's all a fucking act. Smoke and mirrors. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4183623 United States 09/25/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Senate votes 100-0 on procedural measure to move ahead on bill to fund government, unwind health care law - @AP" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926633 Not one fucking nay from that lot of cretins. Harry Reid will vet to make an amendment to the bill. He will remove the language that states obamacare ia to be defunded and it will only need 51 votes. There are 53 democrats so basically Passing tthis bill is passing to fund obama care |
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User ID: 1219589 United States 09/25/2013 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Senate votes 100-0 on procedural measure to move ahead on bill to fund government, unwind health care law - @AP" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926633 Not one fucking nay from that lot of cretins. Harry Reid will vet to make an amendment to the bill. He will remove the language that states obamacare ia to be defunded and it will only need 51 votes. There are 53 democrats so basically Passing tthis bill is passing to fund obama care At that point is goes back to congress to be voted on again…correct? The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30064228 United States 09/25/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what does it mean? they're gonna defund it or not? they confuse me sometimes with the way they word shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13248837 It means they are voting for cloture, which means, they are going to fund Obamacare. Reid can now strip the defund part out, only need 51 votes to send that new bill to the House. In this particular vote, Senators who wanted to defund Obamacare should have voted NO. |
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(OP) User ID: 46467605 United States 09/25/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Senate votes 100-0 on procedural measure to move ahead on bill to fund government, unwind health care law - @AP" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926633 Not one fucking nay from that lot of cretins. Harry Reid will vet to make an amendment to the bill. He will remove the language that states obamacare ia to be defunded and it will only need 51 votes. There are 53 democrats so basically Passing tthis bill is passing to fund obama care This is the problem before us... Cloture means the measure can pass with 51 Aye votes, it will not require 60 Ayes as it should. Now the question is, how will Harry Reid amend the bill before he calls the final vote? This is the fight which is brewing... and which Cruz was trying to prevent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30064228 United States 09/25/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13248837 what does it mean? they're gonna defund it or not? they confuse me sometimes with the way they word shit. . they are essentially voting to close debate, to allow for the next vote UP or DOWN to support the House Bill to keep the government funded but de-fund ObamaCare . NO. Voting for cloture in that vote, allows Reid to strip the defund part out, which he will do,, then vote on just the CR to fund the government, which the Democrats will do and be able to pass with only 51 votes instead of the 60 they would have needed if the vote went the other way. So, the Dems won this one because of spineless Republicans and traitor Dems. So now a new bill without the defund Obamacare language goes to the house for the House to vote on. House needs to put the language back in and send to Senate. Only thing, time is running out and government will have to shut down if they do this. I say, shut it down. |
CharlestonSC
User ID: 679764 United States 09/25/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^this^ They are voting for cloture, not approval of whatever Harry Reid pulls out of his ass. Gotcha...so, the cloture vote was today, and they now only need 51 votes to pass an amended bill, correct? If so, this sucks. Yes, that's right. It will then go back to the House for reconciliation. The House may then refuse to accept it and send back a demand for delay of Obamacare so this isn't over yet. The really good thing is that this is getting high profile exposure and stiring up a lot of pissed off Americans. God help us all if this thing passes! PS Loved the Harry Reid comment |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30064228 United States 09/25/2013 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help me understand.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28084171 The republicans can shut down the government at this point? That's alot of power? Am I right? I'm trying to understand... And Obama and the Senate can prevent it. All they have to do is pass the bill the Republicans present to them, but they won't do it. That's alot of power isn't it? Shill. The House controls the purse strings. The Republicans won the House therefore, they control the purse strings this time around. It's the Dems that are obstructing the will of the people in this round. Don't let the MSM tell(lie to)you otherwise. |
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User ID: 35978159 United States 09/25/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^this^ They are voting for cloture, not approval of whatever Harry Reid pulls out of his ass. Gotcha...so, the cloture vote was today, and they now only need 51 votes to pass an amended bill, correct? If so, this sucks. Yes, that's right. It will then go back to the House for reconciliation. The House may then refuse to accept it and send back a demand for delay of Obamacare so this isn't over yet. The really good thing is that this is getting high profile exposure and stiring up a lot of pissed off Americans. And showing the true colors of our RINO's.... Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41876609 United States 09/25/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help me understand.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28084171 The republicans can shut down the government at this point? That's alot of power? Am I right? I'm trying to understand... Both parties are on the same corporate team. Nothing will be shut down. The agenda continues and we, divided and conquered, keep pulling at each others' faces over social non-issues. It's all a fucking act. Smoke and mirrors. :this: |
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User ID: 2858258 United States 09/25/2013 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone still watching live? The damn GALL of most of these democrats! This whole overtone of suppressing any opposition to the ACA is just astonishing. Mocking Cruz and anyone who thinks like him...essentially telling any voice of reason to just sit down, shut up, and take it! As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, and the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire. - Rudyard Kipling When SHTF... PlanBSurvivalsystems.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34550237 United States 09/25/2013 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Defund. sounds like if congress defunds then you and I and every other working class donkey has got to make up for the defunded part and fund it. Cuz besides the fact that they are playing the theatrical roles to keep our attention focused non something that will never be put into into action they will find a way to do what ever they want to us. Now shut up, and go get your flu shots and make sure you drink plenty of our flammable H20 before its all destroyed or they give it away to Nestley ]]\\ |
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User ID: 35278639 United States 09/25/2013 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47342726 United States 09/25/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how these bureaucrats fain shock at a possible govt. shutdown as though it were the apocalypse? There must be worse doom than govt.'s inability to spend like there's no tomorrow. Quoting: Hard Eight what if those fuckers know there's indeed no tomorrow? From their behavior in the past few years you can tell they are merely kicking the can further until the moment and they clearly know when that moment will arrive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47416352 United States 09/25/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Help me understand.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28084171 The republicans can shut down the government at this point? That's alot of power? Am I right? I'm trying to understand... Both parties are on the same corporate team. Nothing will be shut down. The agenda continues and we, divided and conquered, keep pulling at each others' faces over social non-issues. It's all a fucking act. Smoke and mirrors. :this: the corporate/government will alwys be funded the rest of us can go get fucked |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47078040 United States 09/25/2013 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13248837 what does it mean? they're gonna defund it or not? they confuse me sometimes with the way they word shit. . they are essentially voting to close debate, to allow for the next vote UP or DOWN to support the House Bill to keep the government funded but de-fund ObamaCare . ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ It's a unanimous Yea vote... fight ON! So either we are forced to implement 0bummercare, or we get a government shutdown... this is why the DEMs are in favor; they want to use their favorite SCARE TACTICS to rile up their ignorant voters. "Your government bennies will be cut off if the government shits down." is their claim - Chickie Schummer has already claimed this in his comments... now Harry Peter Reid, is beating the "Government Shutdown will be disastrous" drum... More false dichotomy rhetoric is what it amounts to. Yep! They been playing this game for years! Offering up the lesser of two evils doesn't make it less evil! |
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User ID: 36421936 United States 09/25/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Senate votes 100-0 on procedural measure to move ahead on bill to fund government, unwind health care law - @AP" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 926633 Not one fucking nay from that lot of cretins. Harry Reid will vet to make an amendment to the bill. He will remove the language that states obamacare ia to be defunded and it will only need 51 votes. There are 53 democrats so basically Passing tthis bill is passing to fund obama care At that point is goes back to congress to be voted on again…correct? Not exactly. It will go back to the House for reconciliation which happens by committee not a full floor vote. This is how they got the unconstitutional monstrosity through in the first place. The Senate took an unrealted bill the House had already passed, threw everything out of it to create a shell of a bill that was already approved and sent it back for Nancy Pelosi to rubber stamp. The saving grace this time is that Boehner is not nearly as bad as Pelosi and may bat it right back with a demand to delay Obamacare like a tennis ball for the Senate to reconcider. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Hard Eight
User ID: 35278639 United States 09/25/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how these bureaucrats fain shock at a possible govt. shutdown as though it were the apocalypse? There must be worse doom than govt.'s inability to spend like there's no tomorrow. Quoting: Hard Eight what if those fuckers know there's indeed no tomorrow? From their behavior in the past few years you can tell they are merely kicking the can further until the moment and they clearly know when that moment will arrive. Apparently the govt.'s ocean of cash may be the only thing keeping this turd of an economy afloat. Courtesy flush already. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4493039 United States 09/25/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is simply a vote for a continuing resolution (I believe). They still have the ability to deliberate and amend the bill, and attempt to re-insert funding for ACA. The big vote is Saturday I think, because the Dems know that they may not have the 60 votes necessary to pass an amended bill (inclusive of Obamacare funding), so they will attempt cloture - which gives them the ability to amend with only 51 votes (I think)... This ^^ |