Look at Venus now? Sure, will do, live webcast tonight at 6:30pm eastern! *Thanks for watching!*

Venus is to far away to see anything in detail

Why all the facination with Venus lately? It seems to be mentioned everywhere?

It is covered in Chemtrails...

Is it not 1/3 closer to earth & getting closer?

20,000,000 closer, thought I saw that somewhere.

Or is earth getting closer to Venus?


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Are you kidding? Venus is nearly 49 arcseconds wide right now. By Dawes' Limit, my scope has a maximum resolution of 0.57 arcseconds.

Thank you Dr Astro for bringing a little sanity to this whole thing.....

Thank you Dr. Astro. I will be watching this evening to see what you come up with.

Excellent work!

Five stars.

There was a thread a few weeks back that said it was 2,000,000 miles closer. I get planets rise and set on the horizon,but last night from Mississippi Gulf Coast Venus was down behind the tree line in about 15 minutes,which seemed kinda fast to me. Info.,anyone?

It didn't set till about 8pm last night for me, but it depends on the size of your tree line as well as location. I do want the most time I can get on it though, so I've decided to push the webcast forward half an hour to start at 6:30.

20,000,000 what closer, and closer than what?

Noone said the word "destroy Venus".
But thanks for the webcast!
Could you continue the webcast until Ison has passed Venus safely, thanks!

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"or something." Tongue in cheek. The claim being made about Venus isn't even clear, the claim is that "something" bad is going to happen to Venus though as a result of ISON's debris, foreshadowing our "doom." The truth is that neither planet will be near ISON's post-perihelion debris, but I'm happy to show Venus anyway.

As of today, ISON has already passed the semi-major axis of Venus' orbit and is now farther than Venus from the sun. I'll watch it tonight just to be sure, but so far, nothing:
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Venus will not pass by ISON's pre-perihelion debris trail till mid January, 2014, or don't you know that?

That wasn't even what we were talking about.

And ISON isn't passing anywhere near Venus after perihelion, so what exactly are you talking about here?

The distance between Venus and Earth varies depending on where the two planets are in their orbits. At their closest, the gap between them is 38 million kilometers, and at their furthest, 261 million kilometers.It varies by the orbital position of the two planets. The average is about 26 million miles and the closest is about 24 million miles. Earth's orbit averages 149 million kilometers (93 million miles) from the Sun. Venus has an orbit of about 108 million kilometers (67 million miles) from the Sun. The closest approach of about 39.5 million kilometers (23.6 million miles) would be with Venus at its farthest from the Sun and Earth at its closest. This is a rare occurrence. When Venus lies between the Earth and the Sun, a position known as "inferior conjunction", it makes the closest approach to Earth of any planet, lying at a distance of 41 million km during inferior conjunction. At 'superior conjunction' (when Venus is on the opposite side of the Sun and not visible to us) she is about 264 million kilometers from the Earth.

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I know that. Nevertheless, the claim is being made that somehow ISON's post-perihelion debris will somehow "affect" Venus as it crosses the radius of Venus' orbit.
Thread: IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT ISON DOES, LOOK AT VENUS now - ISON and debris PASSING VENUS orbit
Thus I am directly refuting that claim by showing Venus tonight.

Wouldn't it be easier simply to say watch Venus sometime mid-January instead, because ISON is not passing by near Venus after perihelion? So what is the point of having a webcast of Venus now and not on mid-January next year?

Because he is jealous of other members having popular threads on Venus.

I guess I'm still not understanding; this inferior conjunction will occur within a few days of Venus' perihelion, so that means it will be farther from us than "usual," not closer. Now, earth is also a bit closer to the sun than usual right now; perihelion for our planet is also in January, but for an inferior conjunction of Venus occurring at this time of our year, it's not unusually close since Venus will be close to the sun, not far from it.

No, I'm not, I couldn't care less about the "star rating" of my threads. Maybe you do, but I do not.

Exactly. If Dr. Astro's intention is to tell the truth, he will simply say the best time to observe ISON's effect on Venus will be on mid-January instead.

My query as well.
It certainly seems bigger and brighter. Of course it is the fall and now winter months, but still seems bigger and brighter than memories past. This noticed prior to the referenced thread topic by weeks if not months.

Whether it is off gassing or closer remains a mystery, is it both?

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Who said anything about star ratings? I just said popular

So in other words, you want me to get into another fight with someone over whether or not the post-perihelion debris will be coming close to another planet. Yes, that probably would be "easier," but the weather's nice right now so why not take advantage of it and show people that it really isn't "impacting Venus" so that they can see for themselves that it's truly not passing right by Venus?

That is a measure of popularity. How else would you quantitatively judge it?

Is ISON too dim to be seen by amateur telescopes?

If so is there any instrument in this world capable of viewing what's left of it?

Or did it completely desintegrated to very small pieces smaller than...ants making it impossible to be recovered?

The angular separation between the Sun and Venus in mid-January is far from ideal. We'll be passing the point of closest intersection between our orbit and ISON's orbit by then anyway, making observations of Venus rather redundant and pointless. THAT is the truth.